God Says No to Magic, Paganism, and the Occult

[truecrosstrueshield]

I've learned from an administrator Mike at another Christian forum I was once at some years ago not to worry. If you don't always get answers there are readers that come by and don't post. But the readers scan and learn. You're also witnessing to them.

So what I'm writing here in this post is that members most likely already know not to get into these things. But readers need to know also as Jesus spoke not only to his disciples plainly but also in parables to the other people are also included. So I'm not insulting anyone's understanding of this topic. But this is an issue everyone should take notice of and I encouraged others to make their own comments about magic and the occult for which God hates. . Deu. 18:9-11 MKJV

9When you come to the land which Jehovah your God gives you, you shall not learn to do according to the abominations of those nations.10There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that uses divination, an observer of clouds, or a fortune-teller, or a witch,11 or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or one who calls to the dead.

God abhors these things with complete hatred. For this is the work directly of satan and demons. They do this magic, sorcery and are mediums channeling into ones mind.

Beware of these other things. Psychic commercials. Don't call upon them. Also no fortune tellers. Stay away from Oprah and her so called spiritual teaching. She made a Christian woman forced to sit down because she didn't want this woman to talk about Jesus in the bible.

Next watch out for John Edwards. Demons are able to imitate peoples voices and personalities that aren't your relatives.

That's why the scripture says this. 1Tim 4:1MKJV

1But the Spirit expressly says that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and teachings of demons, 2 speaking lies in hypocrisy, being seared in their own conscience,

Stay away from oujia boards. I seen this work with a kid in high school. And it brings me bad memories it's another way to channel evil spirits demons. .

Don't get involved in astrology, palm reading, tarot cards, horoscopes and the zodiac.

The bible says the devil cometh like an angel of light. MKJV 2 Cor. 11:14

14 Did not even Satan marvelously transform himself into an angel of light?

He the devil can even look innocent so beware of these also which is below.

Harry Potter. He may look innocent but our bible forbids this practice. No one is favored in God's eye to practice. Beware of his lightning bolt. This is found elsewhere AC/DC, Black Sabbath, Kiss, Metallica and Ozzy Osbourne.

Stay away from that magical mickey mouse. He wears a wizard hat and a wand. Witches also have pointy hats. It signifies the devils horn. And in the bible the magicians that faced Moses had staffs too.

Also I found online the signature from Walt Disney has 3 sixes if you look close enough. Disney 666 - Illuminati Symbols Plus Disney is one of the top lbgtq supporters. When Christians desired to protest Disneyland they lost. Lbgtq has 100% support from Disneyland. And would rather to tell Christians to leave the park if they don't accept the gay lesbian lifestyle. . This is all true. I lived 2 miles from Disneyland to read this in the Orange county register. I don't exaggerate. Plus they charge way too much. I promote boycott Disney everything until they become fair with moral family values.

Last things to avoid. Pentagrams, eye of Horus, and even a triangle with a circle. The lbgtq sometimes uses the circle with triangle in it. The circle represents the eye of Horus.

The obelisk. It's a free mason symbol of paganism. obelisk | pillar | Britannica

Watch out for pyramids, ankh, yin yang, unicorns that are mythical are often used as a pagan symbol. Don't take the mark six six six in Revelation another satanic symbol. Rev.13 17-18 MKJV

17 even that not any might buy or sell except those having the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of its name. 18Here is the wisdom. Let him having reason count the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man. And its number is six hundred andsixty-six.

If you have any of this in your home throw it out with no hesitation. Warn all friends and family. Watch out also for Ra the sun god depicted in art appearing with a halo.

Myths, Symbolism, and the History of the Egyptian Sun God, Ra - Spiritual Ray

I did reading upon this to share with others to stay out of magic, occult, and pagan symbols that attract evil spirits and demons.

If anyone wants to post on this feel free to share biblical or insight what you may know about magic the occult and pagan symbols. As we can continue to warn others of Gods commands and directions to keep us all out of danger. Blessed be they who hearken the words of the Lord God.

Deu. 30:10-20 MKJV

10 for you shall listen to the voice of Jehovah your God, to keep His commandments and His statutes which are written in this book of the Law, and if you turn to Jehovah your God with all your heart and with all your soul. 11 For this commandment which I command you today is not hidden from you, neither is it far off. 12 It is not in Heaven, that you should say, Who shall go up for us to Heaven, and bring it to us, so that we may hear it and do it? 13 Nor is it beyond the sea, that you should say, Who shall go over the sea for us to the region beyond the sea, and bring it to us, so that we may hear it and do it? 14 But the Word is very near you, in your mouth and in your heart, so that you may do it. 15 Behold! I have set before you today life and good, and death and evil, 16 in that I command you today to love Jehovah your God, to walk in His ways, and to keep His commandments and His statutes and His judgments, so that you may live and multiply. And Jehovah your God shall bless you in the land where you go to possess it. 17 But if you turn away your heart, so that you will not hear, but shall be drawn away and worship other gods and serve them, 18 I declare to you today that you shall surely perish; you shall not prolong your days on the land where you pass over Jordan to go to possess it. 19 I call Heaven and earth to record today against you. I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing. Therefore, choose life, so that both you and your seed may live, 20 so that you may love Jehovah your God, and that you may obey His voice, and that you may cling to Him. For He is your life and the length of your days, so that you may dwell in the land which Jehovah swore to your fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give it to them.

 

[Kelly2363]

59 minutes ago, truecrosstrueshield said:

I've learned from an administrator Mike at another Christian forum I was once at some years ago not to worry. If you don't always get answers there are readers that come by and don't post. But the readers scan and learn. You're also witnessing to them.

So what I'm writing here in this post is that members most likely already know not to get into these things. But readers need to know also as Jesus spoke not only to his disciples plainly but also in parables to the other people are also included. So I'm not insulting anyone's understanding of this topic. But this is an issue everyone should take notice of and I encouraged others to make their own comments about magic and the occult for which God hates. . Deu. 18:9-11 MKJV

9When you come to the land which Jehovah your God gives you, you shall not learn to do according to the abominations of those nations.10There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that uses divination, an observer of clouds, or a fortune-teller, or a witch,11 or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or one who calls to the dead.

God abhors these things with complete hatred. For this is the work directly of satan and demons. They do this magic, sorcery and are mediums channeling into ones mind.

Beware of these other things. Psychic commercials. Don't call upon them. Also no fortune tellers. Stay away from Oprah and her so called spiritual teaching. She made a Christian woman forced to sit down because she didn't want this woman to talk about Jesus in the bible.

Next watch out for John Edwards. Demons are able to imitate peoples voices and personalities that aren't your relatives.

That's why the scripture says this. 1Tim 4:1MKJV

1But the Spirit expressly says that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and teachings of demons, 2 speaking lies in hypocrisy, being seared in their own conscience,

Stay away from oujia boards. I seen this work with a kid in high school. And it brings me bad memories it's another way to channel evil spirits demons. .

Don't get involved in astrology, palm reading, tarot cards, horoscopes and the zodiac.

The bible says the devil cometh like an angel of light. MKJV 2 Cor. 11:14

14 Did not even Satan marvelously transform himself into an angel of light?

He the devil can even look innocent so beware of these also which is below.

Harry Potter. He may look innocent but our bible forbids this practice. No one is favored in God's eye to practice. Beware of his lightning bolt. This is found elsewhere AC/DC, Black Sabbath, Kiss, Metallica and Ozzy Osbourne.

Stay away from that magical mickey mouse. He wears a wizard hat and a wand. Witches also have pointy hats. It signifies the devils horn. And in the bible the magicians that faced Moses had staffs too.

Also I found online the signature from Walt Disney has 3 sixes if you look close enough. Disney 666 - Illuminati Symbols Plus Disney is one of the top lbgtq supporters. When Christians desired to protest Disneyland they lost. Lbgtq has 100% support from Disneyland. And would rather to tell Christians to leave the park if they don't accept the gay lesbian lifestyle. . This is all true. I lived 2 miles from Disneyland to read this in the Orange county register. I don't exaggerate. Plus they charge way too much. I promote boycott Disney everything until they become fair with moral family values.

Last things to avoid. Pentagrams, eye of Horus, and even a triangle with a circle. The lbgtq sometimes uses the circle with triangle in it. The circle represents the eye of Horus.

The obelisk. It's a free mason symbol of paganism. obelisk | pillar | Britannica

Watch out for pyramids, ankh, yin yang, unicorns that are mythical are often used as a pagan symbol. Don't take the mark six six six in Revelation another satanic symbol. Rev.13 17-18 MKJV

17 even that not any might buy or sell except those having the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of its name. 18Here is the wisdom. Let him having reason count the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man. And its number is six hundred andsixty-six.

If you have any of this in your home throw it out with no hesitation. Warn all friends and family. Watch out also for Ra the sun god depicted in art appearing with a halo.

Myths, Symbolism, and the History of the Egyptian Sun God, Ra - Spiritual Ray

I did reading upon this to share with others to stay out of magic, occult, and pagan symbols that attract evil spirits and demons.

If anyone wants to post on this feel free to share biblical or insight what you may know about magic the occult and pagan symbols. As we can continue to warn others of Gods commands and directions to keep us all out of danger. Blessed be they who hearken the words of the Lord God.

Deu. 30:10-20 MKJV

10 for you shall listen to the voice of Jehovah your God, to keep His commandments and His statutes which are written in this book of the Law, and if you turn to Jehovah your God with all your heart and with all your soul. 11 For this commandment which I command you today is not hidden from you, neither is it far off. 12 It is not in Heaven, that you should say, Who shall go up for us to Heaven, and bring it to us, so that we may hear it and do it? 13 Nor is it beyond the sea, that you should say, Who shall go over the sea for us to the region beyond the sea, and bring it to us, so that we may hear it and do it? 14 But the Word is very near you, in your mouth and in your heart, so that you may do it. 15 Behold! I have set before you today life and good, and death and evil, 16 in that I command you today to love Jehovah your God, to walk in His ways, and to keep His commandments and His statutes and His judgments, so that you may live and multiply. And Jehovah your God shall bless you in the land where you go to possess it. 17 But if you turn away your heart, so that you will not hear, but shall be drawn away and worship other gods and serve them, 18 I declare to you today that you shall surely perish; you shall not prolong your days on the land where you pass over Jordan to go to possess it. 19 I call Heaven and earth to record today against you. I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing. Therefore, choose life, so that both you and your seed may live, 20 so that you may love Jehovah your God, and that you may obey His voice, and that you may cling to Him. For He is your life and the length of your days, so that you may dwell in the land which Jehovah swore to your fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give it to them.

 

 

Historically the occult has always been presented in terms of witchcraft and magic spells and so on. It has to be said, however, that this occidental view of the occult is really very misleading. It is a view that Satan has fostered in the occult orient (middle Europe) as a response to the Gospel of Christ in and throughout the occident itself. It is in reality a cover, and the thing that it is covering is the actual meaning of the occult. In the ancient world no such cover was necessary, and so in Egypt, Babylon as well as Greece and Rome, the occult was openly admired. In seeking to look into this difficult subject, it must begin with its true meaning.

 

 

 

[Michael37]

There is a difference between enduements of the Holy Spirit that operate through God's chosen vessels and the lying signs and wonders of Satan, as the seven sons of Sceva, a Jewish chief priest, found out.

Act 19:11-20  Now God worked unusual miracles by the hands of Paul,  (12)  so that even handkerchiefs or aprons were brought from his body to the sick, and the diseases left them and the evil spirits went out of them.  (13)  Then some of the itinerant Jewish exorcists took it upon themselves to call the name of the Lord Jesus over those who had evil spirits, saying, "We exorcise you by the Jesus whom Paul preaches."  (14)  Also there were seven sons of Sceva, a Jewish chief priest, who did so.  (15)  And the evil spirit answered and said, "Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are you?"  (16)  Then the man in whom the evil spirit was leaped on them, overpowered them, and prevailed against them, so that they fled out of that house naked and wounded.  (17)  This became known both to all Jews and Greeks dwelling in Ephesus; and fear fell on them all, and the name of the Lord Jesus was magnified.  (18)  And many who had believed came confessing and telling their deeds.  (19)  Also, many of those who had practiced magic brought their books together and burned them in the sight of all. And they counted up the value of them, and it totaled fifty thousand pieces of silver.  (20)  So the word of the Lord grew mightily and prevailed.

[Starise]

Symbols have always represented various groups. In the case of the occult there are often deeper meanings with an intent for the symbol to be mysterious. The symbols are often hidden on seemingly innocent things in plain sight. Yet even after all of the discussion of the occult and secret things from ancient Babylon, Greece, Egypt and elsewhere, much of it isn't really secret any more since there are so many books out there that tell us what it all means. I suspect many  people who become involved in it are at least aware of the implications of what they are getting into. Very few just blindly rush into it not knowing it is evil forces they deal with. I think they know on some level even if it is a superficial one. True that most of them don't realize the extent of harm to themselves such an involvement will require over time. 

All of the things mentioned in the OT are things to stay far away from. As I see it though it's a deeper human heart issue. Men just gravitate to the lowest common denominator. You don't really need try too hard to0 convince most of them to go bad. Men want to be bad and the devil is always right there to assist them.

Understand we are the MINORITY here on the earth and most of the scriptures written were to God's people and to us as Christians.

The MAJORITY of people will in some way evade the Lord and His ways purposefully. They might hold a form of Christian religion while denying the power thereof or they might seemingly be a "good person" to those around them even while supposedly doing good deeds. To the devil a soul in hell is a soul in hell whatever schtick he can use to aid in that objective is the one he will use.

Oprah Winfery was mentioned. Yeah she's a good old worldly girl who has traded valid Christianity for a bunch of new age poo. Everyone seems to like her though, just like they liked Ellen Degeneres. They are both headed the same place. Both call evil good and good evil, yet housewives in the millions  want into their shows and watch them. What gives? The world is blinded mostly willingly.

The witches at the very top are sacrificing little babies to demons. They constantly take advantage of the innocent. This is where that road leads to. Is that where you want to go? 

Only one God cares about you and me, the Father, Son and Holy Ghost, Yahweh, Jesus omnipotent Lord of the universe He created. ALL of the other Gods aren't in reality Gods, just lesser beings put on a platform. Underneath the catchy worldly teaching they despise you, hate you and want nothing more than to see the end of you. Why follow a god ( small g) like that?

[truecrosstrueshield]

Well, I was reading this end times book. The book was talking about how a number of these symbols I mentioned are still in Rome and in the United States. But to most people it is not obvious. Only those who closely look and study these things. There are a number of these symbols in various places etc. and it can blend in at times. Has been there even a long time.

So it has nothing to do with building temples for these images anymore. But God tell us in the bible they that bow to images are also bowing and serving demons. This book was telling me this is how a demon can show his self and personality through these ancient gods. Because they have lived thousands of years old they still do exist. To most people they wont believe these things count for anything.

The reason is because the devil also disguises these things today in a modern way. There are cults that still acknowledge these ancient symbols and plus more modern ones as well. But it's impossible to discuss how many symbols to look out for. Some people wear these around their necks. Even might not be noticeable as it goes under there shirt hanging down.

There's this girl I was reading about. How she was promoting the pentagram is good luck like symbol. It's like the Star of David in its own way. She also follows another pagan like system symbols and says it's not hurting me. I'm just quite fine. She says only Christians attack these things just because they want to blame someone but themselves.

So please don't think modern people don't follow or get into these ancient symbols. Some do even if not most.

I had a friend. Her friend told me stop talking about Jesus because her friend is going to teach her Wicca and the magic arts. I then backed off from my friend not wanting to get in the middle of that.

I had a friend named Steve. The lady said he can have a number of her things. She was moving out. She had a pentagram, upside cross and other ancient symbols. She was probably doing this quietly.

This is why I know these things exist still today. These same demons are still living using them even now . '. with other ones that come later. I looked into the occult aspect. They still exist now as before. It is just that you won't notice unless you have read the occult aspect on this. Not just history ancient Babylon alone.

So I could warn others to stay out of these things if they will happen to notice them.

One more symbol to mention. The various twisted crosses. The Nazi sign is actually also one version of a twisted cross. Upside down even. Various ways to perverse the cross of Jesus including now spelling magic now to magik. They have sometimes used k and a twisted cross hidden in cult words. As you know the Ku Klux Klan aka KKK also represents 3 twisted crosses. This goes to show why they attack the cross of Jesus. Did you realize x men. X files. X factor. Netflix. Red box. The x generation. X finity is also a twisted cross within a number of occult followers? Even adult movies using the x rating. It's sometimes only in the occult to them also means the number six. Because x comes at the end of that spelling. The Antichrist is promoting this x twisted cross on tv etc. and most people don't even know. Later as people accept the k and x then eventually the Antichrist will introduce six six six more naturally as people accepted his other hidden occult symbols. Including others hidden in America etc. people were not paying attention or not studied in these things.

I seen on John Hagee guest talking about Potter books. . JK Rowling studied true Wicca or witchcraft. And after she wrote this. Wiccans praised this book. Saying we are finally recognized in today's society. Harry Potter and Charmed etc. is everyday stuff people read. . Harry Potters lightning bolt represent Satan is a very powerful being and used in that book including Marilyn Manson's album Antichrist super star. In the same store where I saw this album there was selling music shirts. One of the shirts had the number 6 scored. The same lightning bolt that Harry Potter has. Ra and Osiris circles and Horus are used on a number of things too religiously disguised to look like something else. . Not only that but in the Columbine shooting in the late 80's before they were shooting they were listening to Marilyn Manson albums. Then there was a shooting in Texas a few years ago and this high school football player was chasing everyone around the room. He was shooting at everyone and laughing out loud. He was generally a quiet person in class. He was also collecting evil symbols. Some of them that were collected was of Baphomet the symbol used in the occult. So if there's anyone that says there's no connection to these symbols there's a connection to Satan and all these symbols including the Nazi symbols that killed 6 million Jews.

As the serpent disguised himself in the Garden of Eden as a serpent even today he disguises himself in our modern world. As one poster said it can be even anything to trap people. Yes it's true. Not only these symbols. You need to keep reading the bible and avoiding other temptations today out of sin. I'm mostly in this post. If anyone tries to get into any of these please don't get into astrology, magic, sorcery, or the occult. That's all I'm really saying. Don't even start this at all. . . I was just being more educated to look into some basic meanings to help me to determine the Antichrist end times mystery of Babylon aspects. . How does Babylon fit into today world mention in Revelation 17?. Babylon is here . . Because of the devils disguises most people had no clue on this. I've been studying since '97' on end time prophecies. . It's perhaps more obvious to me cause I looked to show off occult can accept them and hiding themselves or blending in our modern world. Often called the new age movement also called neopagans.

More people are trying to talk to the dead.

I recently had to let a friend go because he was trying to talk with his dead mother. He's into in the afterlife teaching. He says the spirits in his room that he believes is his mother.

Psychics and astrology. It's more popular then you think. People quietly however most likely do this privately at home. The devil likes it that way. Don't tell on him. Just like Steve. An ordinary looking house and when he looked inside all Satan, pagan symbols ,and devil art. So I'm not warning Christians that already know not to get into this but rather someone who may be reading this that God doesn't want anyone to get into these dangerous necklaces, charms, zodiac, psychics, and sorcery. Evan people today privately among friends .

Remember the Ten Commandments. You shall not make any image that one shall bow to. Even if people today don't bow to them they still have pictures of these images that have been bowed to centuries ago. So even to have any necklace, records, lightning bolts, astrology, zodiac, and Nostradamus books etc. get rid of these.. I have an Uncle who follows Nostradamus. I had a friend lost because of Wicca. Her friend got her into this. The Ouija board answered my questions right in high school. . So if you don't think they are of today they're still here in hidden ways. Whether they be ancient or modern stay away from this. God warns us to stay out. It's one sin among others. I'm warning the occult etc. stay or get out. Don't let Satan pull you down with him. God rather wants to save you instead.

 

[Leonardo Von]

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God Says No to Magic, Paganism, and the Occult

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• Deu 18:9-12 -> "When thou art come into the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations. There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch, or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee."

[Mea kakau]

Before I became a Christian in 1991, I was a new ager big time. I was told by a Christian that I would never find God. So much for that lie. The Lord had plans for my life.

Years later I was sitting in a church and this young man in his early 20s sat next to me. For some reason he asked me about the new age movement. Of all of the people in that church he sat next to me. I knew it was a God thing. It was meant to be. He wanted to know if it was okay to do some of those as a Christian. I flatly and nicely told him absolutely not. Then I explained why. He really didn't know he was supposed to turn his back on all of those things. At the end of our talk, he promised to walk away from everything he had been still doing.

It was a beautiful time with the Lord and this young man.

[Kelly2363]

On 8/23/2021 at 12:31 AM, Kelly2363 said:

 

Historically the occult has always been presented in terms of witchcraft and magic spells and so on. It has to be said, however, that this occidental view of the occult is really very misleading. It is a view that Satan has fostered in the occult orient (middle Europe) as a response to the Gospel of Christ in and throughout the occident itself. It is in reality a cover, and the thing that it is covering is the actual meaning of the occult. In the ancient world no such cover was necessary, and so in Egypt, Babylon as well as Greece and Rome, the occult was openly admired. In seeking to look into this difficult subject, it must begin with its true meaning.

 

Following on:

You won't find the meaning of the occult or sorcery or witchcraft in idols, symbols or in any extraneous object to yourself until you first accept the biblical meaning of these things in yourself. There are more sorceric effectual inclinations in the churches than in the world. 

Edited August 24, 2021 by Kelly2363
edited for clarity.

[Marathoner]

I have seen our enemy. He gazes at us whenever we look into a mirror.  

[Kelly2363]

3 minutes ago, Marathoner said:

I have seen our enemy. He gazes at us whenever we look into a mirror.  

 

As humorous as that it Brother - it has a grain of truth in it. In fact it has more than a grain of truth in it - it forms a very stark reality that few of us are willing to realise.

It has only been in the last few weeks that I have gone back to thinking about my early walk and how it differed to my present walk. Yet today my understanding is very well developed - whereas nearly four decades ago I reckon I knew very little. So I have been thinking about how it was that I had more zeal and effectual ministry as a babe in Christ - than I do now as a more mature brother. 

One thing I remembered  from my innocence was when I was ministering in a homeless night shelter in the evenings. I saw something that I almost forgot. I saw the faces of men who were confounded as to why a man and his wife would wash their feet. I recall very clearly looking up one time whilst sharing the gospel washing the torn feet of a homeless man and seeing in his eyes the deepest question as to why I was doing what I was doing. He was literally powerless in that instant and when he realised that I was looking into his soul he yielded his whole man. So when I write about the flesh and make a semblance of speaking about spiritual wickedness arsing out of its folds I do so remembering that this same fleshy man is also a thing to be held with great fear of God - lest we forget why Christ died and who we are in the flesh. But we must come to a sound understanding in this day we now live in where children are more learned of spiritual wickedness - yet seeing it not - and many in the churches know much - but understand little.