The New Testament's Demons Are As Real As It Gets.

[JAG**]

The New Testament's Demons Are As Real As It Gets.
By JAG
August 31, 2021


They are bodiless spirits of fallen angels. They strongly desire to get
back inside a body ~ and the bodies of pigs will do just fine.

How can we be certain they are bodiless spirits? Because if they had
bodies of their own, they wouldn't be begging to be allowed to use the
bodies of pigs. "The demons begged Jesus to let them go into the pigs."
{Luke 8:32) (same in Mark 5:9-13}

Once upon a time I was puzzled reading about demons ~ in the New
Testament I mean. They also made me just a wee bit uneasy. Are demons
really real? The Bible is the inspired inerrant word of God, I never doubted
that, but we're living in modern times and there has to be some other
explanation. Wrong. Demons are as real as dogs, dolphins, and daffodils,
and here is what I think happened:

There was war in heaven. We know that. We've read about it in Rev. 12:7-9.

In that war . . .

Michael and his good angles killed the physical bodies of Satan and his evil
angels and sent their bodiless spirits hurling down to earth ~ where they now,
apparently crave above all else, to get back inside a body and they'll even beg
to be allowed to enter hogs if its that or nothing.

Let's take a minute and read Rev. 12:7-9 together:

"Then war broke out in Heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon,
and the dragon and his angels fought back. But he was not strong enough, and they
lost their place in heaven. The great dragon was hurled to the earth ~ that ancient
serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to
the earth, and his angels with him."

So there was War in Heaven . . .

And this is what Jesus said about that war:

"I saw Satan fall like lightning from Heaven." {Luke 10:18}

In Rev. 12:9 the Apostle John said the same thing like this:

"Satan "was hurled down . . . He was hurled to the earth."

 

Jesus' disciples said to Him:  "even the demons submit to us in Your name"

{Luke 10:17}. Upon hearing that Jesus  immediately came back with "I saw

Satan fall like lightning from heaven." {Luke 10:18}

 

So?

 

So there is a direct connection between demons on the earth and that 

War in Heaven where Satan was kicked out and  hurled like lightning

to the earth.

 

Moreover . . .

 

Demons, now spirits without bodies, hate their present condition. They need 

to occupy bodies so they can meaningfully interact with their surroundings. 

They find living without a body to be extremely unpleasant. 

 

And even pigs will do . . .

 

Again, "the demons begged Jesus to let them go into the pigs" {Luke 8:32} 

 

And they actually did that.

 

Jesus gave them permission and then "they went into the pigs." {Luke 8:33}.

 

Being inside a body keeps them out of the Unpleasant Void. When they are not

occupying a body, they are in a place they don't want to be. They call it The Abyss. 

"They begged Jesus  repeatedly not to order them to go into the Abyss. {Luke 8:31}

(The NIV capitalizes the word Abyss.) They're smart enough to avoid  The Abyss, if

 they can.

 

The New Testament's demons are persons with intelligence that can carry on a

conversation. They did exactly that with Jesus in Luke 8:26-33.

 

And they know how important  the Lord Jesus is:

 

"A demon-possessed man . . . [shouted] what do You want with me, Jesus, Son

of the Most High God?" {Luke 8:27-28}

 

And demons can feel pain and they want to avoid it. One demon said to Jesus, "I beg

You don't torture me." {Luke 8:28}.

 

The New Testament's demons know that Pain is in their future.

 

"What do You want with us, Son of God? [the demons] shouted. Have You come

here to torture us before the appointed time?" {Matthew 8:29}.

 

 

Here is a comforting thought . . .

 

God protects His people from demons:

 

Christians cannot be possessed by demons. We have the Holy Spirit

living within us  {1 Cor. 6:19}. and He protects us from the Evil One.

The power of The Cross, the Resurrection, and the Exaltation {Jesus

now being seated at the right hand of Almighty God} has secured 

eternal redemption for we who believe in the Lord Jesus as our

Savior. Thank You Father, Lord Jesus, Holy Spirit for loving us,

for saving us, and for  protecting us from  the Evil Ugly One.

 

Demons are sentient beings {able to perceive and feel things}. They

are self aware. "I beg you not to torture ME", said one demon. {Luke

8:28}.

 

More than one demon spirit can occupy the same human body. "What 

is your name?", asked Jesus. "Legion", he replied because many demons

had gone into [the man]." {Luke 8:30}

 

So what can we conclude from all this?

 

(1) Demons are looking for susceptible people to occupy. They need a 

body.

(2) Being fallen angels, they're  no more mysterious than angels. We

don't find angels to be hugely mysterious. We understand a lot about

who they are and what they do. Demons are the spirits of fallen angels

who followed their leader Satan in rebellion against God and like Satan,

were kicked out of heaven and hurled bodiless to the earth where they

began searching for humans susceptible to being demon possessed.

Their bodies were killed during the War in Heaven and they don't like

being in that condition. They crave bodies so they can escape The Abyss

and remain on earth interacting with the much more enjoyable aspects

of human life.

 

How about now?  Do demons occupy humans today, 21st century?

 

I think they do.

 

Why is it hard to believe that Charles Manson was demon possessed? Nine

murders in four locations. Cult leader of the Manson Family who had 

mesmerizing control over approximately 100 followers. You ever looked into

the eyes {pictures} of Charles Manson? Spooky. Scary stuff.

 

How about Jeffery Dahmer the Milwaukee Cannibal? A serial killer, sex offender,

and murderer who dismembered 17 men and boys and ate some of them. Dahmer 

was also into Necrophilia  {sex with dead people . . .  with corpses} 

 

So?

 

So why is it difficult to believe that Jeffery Dahmer was demon possessed?

 

And what about the "Rev." Jim Jones and what happened in Jonestown

in Guyana? 918 people drank cyanide-laced Kool Aid and laid down to

die under the captivating control of demonic Evil "Rev." Jim. You ever

read "Our Father Who Art In Hell: The Life And Death Of Jim Jones"?

Don't. It's not pretty. 

 

Why is it difficult to believe that Jim Jones was demon possessed. 

 

And how about the world's criminally "insane" murderers, torturers,

and rapists ~ locked away in maximum security cells. How many of 

them could  be occupied by the spirits of Satan's fallen angels?

 

And why wouldn't they be?

 

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Epilogue.

 

It was noised abroad that some Christians actually put the personal blame

on Charles Manson, Jeffery Dahmer, and Jim Jones for what they did and 

had the nerve to label it as sin against the God of the Bible.

 

"Listen", said Sly Sigh-Chiatrist, "we don't like the Bible, or the God of the

Bible, or the concept of personal sin."

 

"That's exactly right,  we surely do not", replied Cunning Sigh-Chologist, 

"so let's invent some pseudo-intellectual gobbledygook medical-sounding

terminology to befuddle the easily-befuddled masses."

 

"That's a splendid idea", cooed Sly Sigh-Chiatrist, "how 'bout  'borderline

 personality disorder' and 'psychotic disorder' and here's a really good one

'schizotypal personality disorder'. Will these get the  job done?"

 

"Yes, I think they will", replied Cunning Sigh-Chologist, "and let's add 'psychosis'

and 'schizophrenia' to the list. The  masses will swallow our science-sounding

bafflegab hook, line, and sinker. Gullibility flows strong and thick 21st century."

 

"I love it", smirked Sly Sigh-Chiatrist, "and then  the masses will have to come 

to us and give us their money for our therapy treatments and our pills."

 

"Exactly", grinned Cunning Sigh-Chologist, "and at the same time we can get

 rid of the outdated notions of God and personal sin."

 

"Okay then", smiled Sly Sigh-Chiatrist, "let's do it."

 

And so they did.

 

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Agree?

Disagree?

Thoughts?

 

 

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[Waggles]

1 hour ago, JAG** said:

Michael and his good angles killed the physical bodies of Satan and his evil
angels and sent their bodiless spirits hurling down to earth

This is somewhat fanciful.

Where does scripture teach that angels have physical bodies in the Heaven - the spirit realm??

Edited August 31, 2021 by Waggles

[Waggles]

1 hour ago, JAG** said:

Christians cannot be possessed by demons. We have the Holy Spirit

living within us  {1 Cor. 6:19}. and He protects us from the Evil One.

Some Christians have the indwelling Holy Spirit. Not all who profess discipleship are Spirit-filled.

But even Spirit-filled Christians can be seduced by the enemy if they quench the Spirit and stop becoming overcomers. They may not be possessed by devils but they sure can be seduced by becoming sinful and ceasing to bear good fruit.

Edited August 31, 2021 by Waggles

[Waggles]

1 hour ago, JAG** said:

How about now?  Do demons occupy humans today, 21st century?

They certainly are present today and are very active.

1: they work to prevent people hearing and believing the full gospel of salvation 

"The sower went forth to sow his seed: and as he sowed, some fell by the way side, and was trodden under, and the birds of the heaven devoured it."  Luke 8:5

2: they are very experienced at generating false religions, false gospels and false revelations to direct people away from the truth. They promote witchcraft, clairvoyance, worshipping Mother Nature, theosophy, and so on.

3: they are the rulers of this world and give those who are perishing everything they want from worldly riches and power to gambling habits to alcohol and drugs to rock'n'roll to fornication and pornography. Every pleasure under the Sun. 

4: yes they do "inhabit' evil people and through such commit evil deeds and harm upon others. 

5: they particularly pursue Spirit-filled Christians with the intention to destroy their faith and righteousness in Christ Jesus, and to reclaim them from the light back over to their kingdom of darkness. Many warnings in scriptures concerning this.

Have you seen demons or devils ??

They are jet black darker than the night having the silhouette of a human but only as a shadow. 

[Riverwalker]

37 minutes ago, Waggles said:

Some Christians have the indwelling Holy Spirit. Not all who profess discipleship are Spirit-filled.

But even Spirit-filled Christians can be seduced by the enemy if they quench the Spirit and stop becoming overcomers. They may not be possessed by devils but they sure can be seduced by becoming sinful and ceasing to bear good fruit.

Just have chime in here. All Christians are indwelt by the Holy Spirit.  They may not have the baptism which brings the power to minister, but we all have the Holy Spirit.  And while a Christian can be demon oppressed they cannot be demon possessed

 

Romans 8:9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His. 10 And if Christ is in you, the body is dead because of sin, but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. 11 But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies [d]through His Spirit who dwells in you.

 

Edited August 31, 2021 by Riverwalker

[Dennis1209]

I have a much different hermeneutic view. Angles, fallen or otherwise, can transform themselves into fleshly appearance; there's several biblical examples. The Devil himself can transform to an angel of light. There is a hierarchy of fallen beings and power, as there is with heavenly created beings that did not follow Satan. I believe daemons are the lowest rung on the latter, and their name means "intelligence,"

Deamons are constantly in search of a body as you imply. To me, that insinuates they once had bodies, and desire to fulfill their desires of the flesh they once practiced, but no longer can in spiritual form. 

When did Satan and his minion's rebel and fall? Sometime prior to the fall of Adam, as Satan is the father of lies and sinned before Adam or Eve. I personally believe 'daemons' are a product of Genesis 6:1-4, of which Peter and Jude also mention. Nephilim, half or part human based on generation, are part fallen angel and part human, they are not God's original creation, and are not eligible for Salvation, they are not 100% human.

There is no mention in the Old Testament of daemon's, evil or unclean spirits; until after the flood of Noah. As it was in the days of Noah... What was so radically different in those days, that the Lord saw fit to destroy everything with the breath of life and start over again? 

Just my studies and worldview. 

[Riverwalker]

As far as what the demons are I am not sure they are angels, as no one has ever bee possessed by an angel

And Jude 6 Tells us that fallen angels are locked up

 6 And the angels who did not keep their [c]proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day

[missmuffet]

25 minutes ago, Riverwalker said:

As far as what the demons are I am not sure they are angels, as no one has ever bee possessed by an angel

And Jude 6 Tells us that fallen angels are locked up

 6 And the angels who did not keep their [c]proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day

The demons were at one time angels and lived in heaven until they were cast out with Lucifer. 

[other one]

3 hours ago, JAG** said:

They are bodiless spirits of fallen angels.

I would have to disagree with that statement.   Fallen angels can come and go at will as can other angels.  Some day they will be quarantined here but have not as of yet.

Demons are the disembodied spirits of dead Nephilim.   Hybrid beings that were not intended part of the universe. At there death in the flood, there was nowhere for them to go so they roam around the earth looking for bodies to enter.  Sometimes to possess and other times to just ride along and be a negative influence.  They carry out the wants of Satan and his fallen ones most of the time.

They are sad things for there is no hope for them at all.

[Riverwalker]

2 hours ago, missmuffet said:

The demons were at one time angels and lived in heaven until they were cast out with Lucifer. 

And which scripture makes that very plain?