U.N. Statue

[Alive]

On 12/11/2021 at 4:31 PM, other one said:

and he certainly is not exercising his authority here now.....   We live under the rules of freewill.    While he does occasionally intervein for some things, for the most part people are free to follow Satan and do his will.

Some day soon he will come here and exercise his authority violently and things will go his way whether we like it or not.

Psa. 2:1 (NKJVS)    Why do the nations rage,  And the people plot a vain thing?

²  The kings of the earth set themselves,  And the rulers take counsel together,  Against the LORD and against His Anointed, saying,

³  “Let us break Their bonds in pieces  And cast away Their cords from us.”

⁴  He who sits in the heavens shall laugh;  The Lord shall hold them in derision.

⁵  Then He shall speak to them in His wrath,  And distress them in His deep displeasure:

⁶  “Yet I have set My King  On My holy hill of Zion.”

⁷  “I will declare the decree:  The LORD has said to Me,  ‘You are My Son,  Today I have begotten You.

 

As in all things--all considerations--it is all about Christ. The answer--the solution.

[Alive]

18 hours ago, Sower said:

Thanks David. Appreciate your reply.

I try to read scripture in the most simple understanding as I believed God intended, considering the majority of those hearing at that time, being uneducated, without the bible, concordances, or google.
I grow suspicious when some one corrects me by saying, "Well, what that really means is.....". I do use my concordance and interlinear Greek and Heb, and over the years have yet to find the meaning change after researching. From your reply I discovered 'more' of how that word 'repent' is described; Strong's H5162

• (Niphal)

  to be sorry, be moved to pity, have compassion

  1. to be sorry, rue, suffer grief, repent
     to comfort oneself, be comforted
     to comfort oneself, ease oneself
     to comfort, console
     to be comforted, be consoled

• (Hithpael)

  1. to be sorry, have compassion
     to rue, repent of
     to comfort oneself, be com

 

This I can understand better if that was God's intentional meaning. These are human emotions described in above descriptions, to be sorry (for what?) to console/comfort oneself (for something going wrong?) to repent of (really sounds to me like changing His mind about what He had done, and consoling and comforting Himself) Yes, I know God is sovereign. All knowing. The I Am.
Repent used in other places then can cause confusion, as in ( change ones thinking, or repent of previous understanding (false doctrinal understanding) and receive scriptural truth necessary for faith/salvation.

Act 3:19  Repent (G3340) ye therefore, and be converted,, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;

Repent (G3340) metanoeó: to change one's mind or purpose.

Then God was grieved with what He had done, or at the least, the scriptures say He was.

grieved (H6087) him

• to hurt, pain, grieve, displease, vex, wrest

  1. (Qal) to hurt, pain

  2. (Niphal) to be in pain, be pained, be grieved

  3. (Piel) to vex, torture

  4. (Hiphil) to cause pain

  5. (Hithpael) to feel grieved, be vexed

'vexed'  feeling or showing irritation, annoyance, or distress

To be 'hurt, pain, grieve, displease, vex, wrest' or to be pleased indicates to me, my thinking, that the final outcome was unknown. Like I said, what causes anger, or pleasure, or a change of mind if the outcome is already known? Was God implying something not possible? (God forbid)

 

Again I thank you for your reply, David, and it helped. I suppose I'll have to wait till I'll know as I'm known in the not to distant future to fully understand...

 

 

I would just add a thought although I have only read this thread to this point. Isn't it important to consider all of these things in the context that we know that Christ was slain from the foundations of the world.

[Thornbird]

1 hour ago, teddyv said:

What is this? An on topic post?

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Yes,like unto all posts in the thread thus far. Crosses all  things crossable.? Can I just say how much I hate auto-correct thank kicks in just prior to posting? Argh.

Edited December 13, 2021 by Thornbird

[Alive]

I am aware that there is a very real cabal out there that has existed for a long time that would like to turn the world into a kind of feudalism. I have studied that stuff a lot many years ago.

The reason I posted Psalm 2 is to illustrate just why it doesn't concern me.

At one time, this stuff took up some significant real estate in my mind. I found--and I believe the Lord taught me--that it is a dark place to dwell, so I left in in the rear mirror. I trust the Lord will let me know whatever I need to know when and if I need to know it.

:-)

But to add: I do think much of this stuff is simply a combination of distraction and delusion.

[Marathoner]

I concur with @teddyv regarding the UN: a toothless entity which in and of itself, is merely a venue for geopolitical posturing on the part of the nations of men. Thus, the only "conspiracy" afoot is the wickedness of wicked men. The evil of man is nothing new under the sun, and still all things proceed according to the will of the Lord God Almighty who declares the end from the beginning. 

Never forget who comprises the UN --- the nations of this earth. There is none righteous, not one.  

[Thornbird]

10 minutes ago, Alive said:

I am aware that there is a very real cabal out there that has existed for a long time that would like to turn the world into a kind of feudalism. I have studied that stuff a lot many years ago.

The reason I posted Psalm 2 is to illustrate just why it doesn't concern me.

At one time, this stuff took up some significant real estate in my mind. I found--and I believe the Lord taught me--that it is a dark place to dwell, so I left in in the rear mirror. I trust the Lord will let me know whatever I need to know when and if I need to know it.

:-)

But to add: I do think much of this stuff is simply a combination of distraction and delusion.

Yes. It's outside our control. Worry changes nothing.

[David1701]

19 hours ago, Thornbird said:

I don't think we can claim we know God is Omniscient and then say he changes what he has predetermined for humanity based on their hearts and deeds.

Because Omniscience knows hearts and deeds from beginning to end. We are all that God purposed. 

Obviously God doesn't change what he has predetermined!  He changes his providential dealing with people, in time, based on the changes in their hearts and deeds.  These changes were, of course, predetermined.

[Marathoner]

49 minutes ago, David1701 said:

Obviously God doesn't change what he has predetermined!  He changes his providential dealing with people, in time, based on the changes in their hearts and deeds.  These changes were, of course, predetermined.

In an effort to articulate what you and @Thornbird have expressed in this topic --- I'm in agreement with you both --- I settle upon, "The same Lord reveals Himself to His beloved in various ways." This has everything to do with those works which the Almighty ordained us to walk in before the foundation of the world. 

Of course He knows everything, for did He not declare it? It's not a matter of the Lord foreseeing future events but rather, everything proceeds according to His purpose and will. He conceived of us before we were formed in the womb.

Different testimonies of the same Lord Jesus Christ, whose work unfolds in us while we walk in those works He foreordained. Everything I have seen, heard, witnessed, and otherwise endured is all according to His purpose. Before I plunged headlong into my baptism, the Lord revealed everything I would suffer along the way. 

When His work in this regard was complete and I was close to death, I was precisely where He intended me to be. All glory to God! 

 

[Marathoner]

The Lord never changes, but we do. Thus, @David1701 expresses something crucial in our understanding of the living God and His work in us: that we change "from glory to glory" is pleasing to the Lord who fashions us by His hand. He intends for us to change, friends. 

In confirmation of this truth there was a time when I walked in ignorance of His purpose and will. I was exceedingly zealous in a boneheaded sort of way, blundering from here to there and making a mess of things in my wake. During this time, I would hear the Lord through the hearts and mouths of brethren He sent my way. That's how it was back then, being the clueless bonehead that I was. 

Everything changed when I nearly lost the life in this body. Therefore, what our brother asserts is trustworthy in my estimation.  

[David1701]

5 hours ago, Alive said:

I am aware that there is a very real cabal out there that has existed for a long time that would like to turn the world into a kind of feudalism. I have studied that stuff a lot many years ago.

The reason I posted Psalm 2 is to illustrate just why it doesn't concern me.

At one time, this stuff took up some significant real estate in my mind. I found--and I believe the Lord taught me--that it is a dark place to dwell, so I left in in the rear mirror. I trust the Lord will let me know whatever I need to know when and if I need to know it.

:-)

But to add: I do think much of this stuff is simply a combination of distraction and delusion.

Yes, the cabal wants to return the world to feudalism, with them as the lords and us as the serfs.

Yes, it is a dark place to dwell (useful to know, but not to dwell upon).  I'm in the trying not to dwell upon it phase just now, not entirely successfully.