Do you Think like Jesus or Yeshua?

[Ovedya]

Interesting. If we broke this down into a kind of a surey, I wonder what the outcome would be. Let's give it a try:

Greek vs. Hebrew. How do you think?

Way of Thinking

Words

1) How do you express truth in words?

a) Truth is best expressed using abstract concepts, ideas, and logic.

b) Truth is best expressed using concrete terms, and using word pictures and stories.

Numbers

2) How do you view numbers?

a) Numbers are concrete expressions of fact.

b) Numbers can be symbolic of other things.

Thinking About Life

Eternal Life

3) Which best describes your view of eternal life?

a) Eternal life is something that happens after this world is over. The kingdom of God is something that is waiting for us after we die.

b) Eternal life begins now. It can be lived right now on this earth. The kingdom of God is on the earth today.

Community Vs. Individual

4) Which is more important to you?

a) The individual. Focus on a few select friends for fellowship, or even just one person.

b) The community. Fellowship with God's people as a whole.

Error/ Sin

5) Sin is...

a) Wrong thinking.

b) Wrong doing.

Thinking About God

The Existence of God

6) Which statement below fits your approach to the existence of God?

a) God exists, and I'll prove it to you.

b) God exists, period.

Describing God

7) How would you begin a statement describing God?

a) God is...

b) To me, God is...

Faith

8) Which statement below closest matches your way of thinking about faith?

a) Faith is an established set of doctrines, creeds, teachings, and practices.

b) Faith cannot be quantified or rationalized. It is personal and relational to God.

Thinking About Truth

Ultimate in Truth

9) Which statement below best describes your approach to the truth in Scripture?

a) The truth in Scripture is plainly evident through logic, reasoning, and concrete evidence.

b) The truth in Scripture is evident through experience.

Truth Over Time

10) Pick the statement that best describes the way you think of truth as it relates to time"

a) Truth is static and unchanging. It is unmistakable and clear from the beginning.

b) Truth takes time to be revealed and completely understood.

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Okay, that's what I came up with from the most excellent website that Zayit posted for us. Since there are only 10 subjects, scoring should be really easy! Score yourself 20 points for each question, either A or B, and examine your results in terms of percentage.

All the "A" questions are related to "Greek Thinking" and all the "B" Questions are related to "Hebrew Thinking" (If you've already read this part before taking the test, no fair cheating. Go back and answer honestly.).

Here's an example o how you would score yourself:

1) a

2) b

3) a

4) a

5) a

6) b

7) b

8) b

9) b

10) b

A= 4 answers, 40% B= 6 answers, 60%

Therefore, 40% Greek and 60% Hebrew.

[Constant]

30% Greek 70% Hebrew

[Guest yod]

I hardly recognise myself these days compared to the man I once knew that is how big an impact the Paradgm shift can have on our lives.

Not speaking to you personally but I'd like to use that sentence to address something else if you don't mind.

If this only changes our way of thinking but doesn't really affect the way we're living it is useless rubbage.

Example?

What if every person on the planet kept Shabbat, Moedim, halacha, etc, etc, etc,

What if we all agreed on which religious system was best?

Apart from faith it is still impossible to please Him. You agree to that statement, right?

So the question I have is this;

Let's consider a person who has faith in Jesus while being ignorant of the letter of the Torah. They go to church on Sunday, love their neighbor in the best way they know how through the Spirit of God teaching them humility.

They are seeking to know Him every day through prayer and bibles studies and whatnot....and they are doing His will by their own "blessing of the world" in their own situations. But they sincerely don't understand the hebraic context of certain passages so they don't really "do the stuff" correctly.

Can they become more righteous people in the eys of God through attempting to "do more" torah?

That is the Shabbat of Hebrews 4. We can rest from trying to "do more" torah. What we can't do is let ourselves be sold a lie of religion!

We have to "become" torah in our daily lives to the people that we see every moment. What we think, or what we believe, or how many torah-observant acts we do will NOT help us if we aren't being faithful in the small (yet difficult) things of our daily life like letting our "yes" be "yes" and our "no" be "no".

Showing up to work on time and putting in an honest day. Knowing your neighbors names and their kids. Teaching your own children to be faithful even if it means some discipline (for everyone involved). And of course the toughest commandment of all....Husbands love your wives as Christ loved the church.

One's faithfulness in the daily grind of life is the evidence of one's faith....not their celebrations or their creeds.

"Treat others as you would be treated" is a basic brain & heart transplant for humans. It changes them into people who are looking for ways to bless instead of ways to gain.

this is truly gospel (good news) to those who are perishing. When they see that they want some. It is our job to show them....and then to tell them where to find Hope.

[Guest shiloh357]

Excellent observation, Yod!! Thanks!!

[Guest yod]

Just took the test

I'm 30% hellenistic

[EricH]

40 percent hellenistic, 60 percent hebrew. My only issue with the test is that some of the questions were not either or for me. For instance there is a rational portion to faith as well as an experiential

[Ovedya]

40 percent hellenistic, 60 percent hebrew. My only issue with the test is that some of the questions were not either or for me. For instance there is a rational portion to faith as well as an experiential

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I had a little trouble constructing a few of the questions because of that too. There is a case for both sides, I think. For example, under "Community Vs. Individual" in my experience shepherding members of the body individually is an integral part of the building up of the Body of Christ, howevr I tend to be more "community minded" in terms of the church.

I guess overall you have to look at what you lean more towards, even though you might be somewhere in between in most cases.

[RGR]

5) Sin is...

a) Wrong thinking.

b) Wrong doing.

Well, um, both! Remember what Jesus said about adultery-if you look at a woman with the THOUGHT in your heart, it's sin!

[Ovedya]

5) Sin is...

a) Wrong thinking.

b) Wrong doing.

Well, um, both! Remember what Jesus said about adultery-if you look at a woman with the THOUGHT in your heart, it's sin!

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However, in the Hellenistic view sin itself is just wrong thinking. The wrong doing part is just a natural consequence of the wrong thinking.

[nebula]

5) Sin is...

a) Wrong thinking.

b) Wrong doing.

Well, um, both! Remember what Jesus said about adultery-if you look at a woman with the THOUGHT in your heart, it's sin!

Well, it depends on what "thinking" means. In the case of your example, I would say the "thinking" is a "doing." The act or practice of one that thinks; thought (~from dictionary.com)

The "thinking" being described above has to do with beliefs, logic, etc. A way of reasoning; judgment (~fromdictionary.com)