Marilyn C Posted March 16, 2022 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 30 Topic Count: 267 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 13,225 Content Per Day: 3.49 Reputation: 8,512 Days Won: 12 Joined: 12/21/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/06/1947 Author Share Posted March 16, 2022 On 3/9/2022 at 12:57 AM, choir loft said: You have followed a lot of rabbit trails into incorrect data and false interpretation of scripture. Please read about the subjects you claim to defend. Education is power and truth and life. Lies subvert everything God intends as a blessing for us. I perceive you are sincere, but you are sincerely wrong about many things. Please read about your subject. 1. Unwalled villages refers to the towns and cities of modern Israel. Most ancient settlements had some sort of walled protection against the criminal element and foreign invaders. The Golan Heights is a buffer zone between the State of Israel and the nation of Syria. Kibbutzim had long been established there, but the purpose of the 1967 IDF seizure of that region was primarily to prevent artillery bombardment of the southern shores of Lake Kinneret. Consult a modern map of the area. Howitzer bombardment of the southern region of Kinneret is an easy reach for Syrian gun emplacements. Following the Israeli seizure of the heights Hezbollah (Lebanese terrorists) now uses missiles to accomplish bombardments. 2. Turkey is NOT a part of the Russian Federation. Google it. Turkey is an independent state allied with NATO since 1952. President Erdogan has been trying to influence middle east politics since he took office, but has suffered financial reverses in recent months. Nationalistic politics in modern Turkey seeks a return to Ottoman status throughout the middle east region. Shia muslims, called Twelvers (*), generally hope and pray and work for this situation to become reality. 3. References to End Times, as well as all other Biblical references, are defined according to contextual use, not individual lines of scripture or dogmatic arguments presented by unqualified preachers from the 19th century or their forbears from the 16th century RCC. All Biblical references of End Times alliances against Israel identify nations that border upon Israel or the near allies of those enemies. This has been VERIFIED by archeological discoveries in recent years. Uneducated speculation proves nothing. Ankara is the only capital on a global map that is north of Jerusalem. Use a globe and draw a line to the north. Moscow is nowhere near that line. One ought to use a globe because the Earth is round. That fact has been known for centuries, but seems to have been misplaced by those who assert dogma instead of fact. Scripture doesn't lie, but liars quote scripture to justify their false doctrine. Satan quoted scripture to Jesus on several occasions. Snippets of scripture do not justify RCC doctrine of the End Times. Those doctrine were rejected by the fathers of the Protestant Reformation, but continue to be embraced by fanatic individuals who support 16th century Vatican dogma called FUTURISM and its modern version DISPENSATIONALISM. Scripture wasn't given to us to justify false profit$, but that has consistently been the case in recent decades. You advise me to check out God's word when you are really insisting I accept your point of view instead. False prophets have echoed those words for millennia. It's all about context context context. It doesn't matter who wrote bogus posts. Satan quotes snippets of scripture all the time. Hitler, a good Christian fellow, quoted scripture as well as Joseph Stalin who attended seminary. Lazy gullible types always believe lies based on scripture. The wise scholar considers the Bible as a whole together with its historic references both ancient and modern. It's about context context context. that's me, hollering from the choir loft... (*) Twelvers hope and pray and work for the return of the 12th Imam of Shia Islam who they call Imam al-Mahdi. al-Mahdi is a sort of Shia messiah. 1. The Golan Heights is a part of modern day Israel. 2. I said that Turkey is WITH the Russian Federation. 3. God`s word says `the far north,` and in Hebrew that is ``tsaphon,` meaning, the north as a quarter of the earth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angels4u Posted March 17, 2022 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 56 Topic Count: 1,664 Topics Per Day: 0.20 Content Count: 19,764 Content Per Day: 2.38 Reputation: 12,164 Days Won: 28 Joined: 08/22/2001 Status: Offline Share Posted March 17, 2022 On 3/4/2022 at 12:40 PM, Don19 said: https://news.yahoo.com/zelenky-ukraine-russia-end-of-the-world-180049216.html “Zelensky: 'The end of the world has arrived'” I, for one, found this remark very interesting. Coming from one of only two Jewish heads of state - the other being Israel, obviously. Don, can you next time please first post the video in the video section and then copy and paste it in this thread? Did you hear the song about Zelensky? We sure live in very interesting times,now the Pope is declaring the end of the world also... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don19 Posted March 17, 2022 Group: Senior Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 578 Content Per Day: 0.39 Reputation: 255 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/28/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted March 17, 2022 20 minutes ago, angels4u said: Don, can you next time please first post the video in the video section and then copy and paste it in this thread? Did you hear the song about Zelensky? We sure live in very interesting times,now the Pope is declaring the end of the world also... Sorry, I only saw the quote from Zelensky while looking through news headlines, and wanted to provide a source for it. I'll keep that in mind about posting links if there's a video in the link. What song about Zelensky are you referring to? The Russian invasion has been symbolized by the letter Z. No one really knows what it's supposed to mean, but Russia started painting a bunch of their tanks with this Latin alphabet letter. Nowadays, you see the letter Z appearing all over Russia among those who support Russia's war of aggression. Of course, Z is the last letter in the Latin alphabet. Perhaps it is ultimately symbolic of these being the very last days. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
existential mabel Posted March 17, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 151 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 3,149 Content Per Day: 1.05 Reputation: 2,066 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/12/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted March 17, 2022 5 hours ago, angels4u said: Don, can you next time please first post the video in the video section and then copy and paste it in this thread? Did you hear the song about Zelensky? We sure live in very interesting times,now the Pope is declaring the end of the world also... hmmmn and he should know...that being the case then has he read how it all ends? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angels4u Posted March 17, 2022 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 56 Topic Count: 1,664 Topics Per Day: 0.20 Content Count: 19,764 Content Per Day: 2.38 Reputation: 12,164 Days Won: 28 Joined: 08/22/2001 Status: Offline Share Posted March 17, 2022 35 minutes ago, existential mabel said: hmmmn and he should know...that being the case then has he read how it all ends? https://www.worthychristianforums.com/topic/276597-the-pope-fears-the-end-of-the-world/ I don't want the change the topic,just click on the link I posted to read it for yourself.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choir loft Posted March 17, 2022 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 70 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,221 Content Per Day: 0.38 Reputation: 335 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/23/2015 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/10/1947 Share Posted March 17, 2022 21 hours ago, Marilyn C said: 1. The Golan Heights is a part of modern day Israel. 2. I said that Turkey is WITH the Russian Federation. 3. God`s word says `the far north,` and in Hebrew that is ``tsaphon,` meaning, the north as a quarter of the earth. AGAIN, you wrote "Unwalled villages,` (Ez. 38: 11) is what God`s word says, and that is obviously the Golan Heights." It isn't 'obvious'. You are taking liberties with the phrase 'unwalled villages'. Commentaries of the 38th chapter suggest the land of Israel is the target, not the specific area labeled on modern maps as the Golan Heights. There is no way to link Golan Heights with the eleventh verse unless one resorts to eisegesis (forcing one's opinions into the original scripture). You're #2 suggestion that Turkey is with Russia is suggestive of something other than a trade alliance. The photo you pasted is taken from a June 2021 meeting between Iran Russia & Turkey to discuss opposition to the US world order. That's it and that's all. Nothing of substance resulted from those meetings except a joint statement of intent to work forward along mutually beneficial lines. At no time did Turkey ally itself with Russia or Iran in any way. Turkey is indeed interested in leading the Middle East, but since it's currency (the Lyra) recently collapsed that goal has been delayed. Far North - is generally and falsely assumed to be Russia because the word Rosch SOUNDS LIKE Russia. According to scholars, Magog the principle entity mentioned in scripture, was located in central Turkey in the area of Psidia and/or Phrygia. Revelation 2:12-13 is more specific when it names Pergamun as the throne of satan. The ancient city of Pergamun was located in central Turkey. that's me, hollering from the choir loft... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don19 Posted March 22, 2022 Group: Senior Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 578 Content Per Day: 0.39 Reputation: 255 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/28/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted March 22, 2022 (edited) This is interesting and has been going around social media: Date WWI began: 7/28/1914. 7+28+19+14 = 68 Date WWII began: 9/1/1939. 9+1+19+39 = 68 Date Russian invasion began: 2/24/2022. 2+24+20+22 = 68 Apparently, the words “royalty” and “battle” are used 68 times in the Bible. Edited March 22, 2022 by Don19 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Tefillah Posted March 22, 2022 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 340 Topics Per Day: 0.41 Content Count: 2,099 Content Per Day: 2.55 Reputation: 1,592 Days Won: 5 Joined: 02/06/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted March 22, 2022 7 minutes ago, Don19 said: This is interesting and has been going around social media: Date WWI began: 7/28/1914. 7+28+19+14 = 68 Date WWII began: 9/1/1939. 9+1+19+39 = 68 Date Russian invasion began: 2/24/2022. 2+24+20+22 = 68 Apparently, the words “royalty” and “battle” are used 68 times in the Bible. Very interesting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddyv Posted March 22, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 4,265 Content Per Day: 2.91 Reputation: 2,302 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/03/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted March 22, 2022 Why would the calendar year be added in such a way (e.g. 19+14)? Why just those wars? Is it just European wars? Russian invasion of Czechoslovakia 8/20/1968: 115 Start of Korean war 7/25/1950: 101 Coincidence at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don19 Posted March 22, 2022 Group: Senior Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 578 Content Per Day: 0.39 Reputation: 255 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/28/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted March 22, 2022 3 hours ago, teddyv said: Why would the calendar year be added in such a way (e.g. 19+14)? Why just those wars? Is it just European wars? Russian invasion of Czechoslovakia 8/20/1968: 115 Start of Korean war 7/25/1950: 101 Coincidence at best. Maybe because the first two are "world wars" (who knows how the last one will end). I found it interesting at least that "battle" is mentioned in the Bible 68 times. Perhaps "royal" too, as the common theme in these wars seems to be about empires. Take it however you will, in any case. I'm not making any further claims about this coincidence, at it were. It is what it is. However, I would say that there are no coincidences with God. God is absolutely in control 100% of all things and events. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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