The Prothesis Of The Kletos

[Michael37]

That's right. This thread is actually titled "The Prothesis Of The Kletos".

That's right. It is Greek.

And that's right. In English it reads "The Purpose Of The Called".

Right again. It is mentioned in Romans 8:28

Rom 8:28  And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose.

If you believe God has a purpose for those He has called, you are of course, right.

So let me ask, in your view, "What is the purpose of the called?"

 

[Hopefully]

Hi,

in my view, the purpose of the called is to glorify Jesus in all we do.

Nice post.

“So if you eat, or if you drink, or if you do anything, do it for the glory of God. Never do anything that might make other people do wrong—Jews, non-Jews, or anyone in God’s church. I do the same thing. I try to please everyone in every way. I am not trying to do what is good for me. I am trying to do what is good for the most people so that they can be saved.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭10:31-33‬ ‭

[Michael37]

19 minutes ago, Hopefully said:

Hi,

in my view, the purpose of the called is to glorify Jesus in all we do.

Nice post.

“So if you eat, or if you drink, or if you do anything, do it for the glory of God. Never do anything that might make other people do wrong—Jews, non-Jews, or anyone in God’s church. I do the same thing. I try to please everyone in every way. I am not trying to do what is good for me. I am trying to do what is good for the most people so that they can be saved.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭10:31-33‬ ‭

Yes, we pick up on such exhortations to please God and glorify Him and that indeed is God's setting forth or purpose that we are called according to.

Interesting Fact: The Greek word for purpose is also used in connection with the showbread in the OT Tabernacle.

Heb 9:1-2  Then indeed, even the first covenant had ordinances of divine service and the earthly sanctuary.  (2)  For a tabernacle was prepared: the first part, in which was the lampstand, the table, and the showbread, (prothesis artos) which is called the sanctuary;

Strongs G4286
πρόθεσις
prothesis
proth'-es-is
From G4388; a setting forth, that is, (figuratively) proposal (intention); specifically the show bread (in the Temple) as exposed before God: - purpose, shew [-bread].
Total KJV occurrences: 12

[Ray12614]

Interesting post.

I have been drawn to Ester over the last few days, reading about how Ester was directed by her uncle Mordecai to petition the king for the lives of the Jewish people. Ester was understandably hesitant to go to the king because it could mean her death. Mordecai then said: Est 4:14  For if thou altogether holdest thy peace at this time, then shall there enlargement and deliverance arise to the Jews from another place; but thou and thy father's house shall be destroyed: and who knoweth whether thou art come to the kingdom for such a time as this?

I believe that each of us has an 'place' where we can impact people, situations, individually (like Ester), or corporately (together as citizens of the Kingdom and citizens of our respective countries where we live). Our impact may be what we consider small, or, large but if we faithfully serve our King Jesus doing whatever he assigns to us to do, we will have fulfilled our purpose(s) in our generation.

The King does the assignment of tasks, and the servants are responsible to carrying-out the Masters will.

Grace and Peace . . . 

Ray . . . 

[Heleadethme]

Eph 3:9-11

And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:

To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God,

According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord

[Alive]

I am convinced that the 'eternal purpose' as mentioned by Paul is God desiring to pro-create. Simply--to share 'being' with a family.

To have that family work with Him for whatever is to come throughout eternity forward.

His wisdom will be manifested.

We have almost no idea what that is gonna look like--but we will.

[Heleadethme]

20 hours ago, Alive said:

I am convinced that the 'eternal purpose' as mentioned by Paul is God desiring to pro-create. Simply--to share 'being' with a family.

To have that family work with Him for whatever is to come throughout eternity forward.

His wisdom will be manifested.

We have almost no idea what that is gonna look like--but we will.

I don't disagree, but maybe we are to think of the Eph. 3:9-11 passage as being God's over-arching purpose which everything else works toward...God wants to glorify Himself.  Not because He's some kind of narcissist but because it's right and just that He should be...He is so worthy and only He is worthy to be glorified.  His ways are perfect.  Man was created to serve and glorify Him.  Hard to put into words, but it's as though God being glorified has the effect of putting everything else to rights, in right order so to speak.  I think that passage shows us He has higher purposes than we see from our earthly perspective, it's not really about us ultimately.

[Heleadethme]

I'm not worthy to even speak of such things, but I believe it brings God glory when we behold His beauty and greatness in the scriptures.

Rom 11:33-36

O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!

For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counsellor?

Or who hath first given to him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again?

For OF him, and THROUGH him, and TO him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.

 

It's not about us, everything is for Him, which is as it should be. 

 

[Alive]

Perhaps a look at the meanings of that word glory and glorify?

In the NT Greek, the word is doxa:

G1391   δόξα   doxa   166x  

pr. a seeming; appearance; a notion, imagination, opinion; the opinion which obtains respecting one; reputation, credit, honor, glory; in NT honorable consideration,

I look at this as a recognition of how a thing or being 'is'. Characteristics and such. This then leads to an opinion and sense of that 'glory'. Sun, moon, trees, stars---God.

2Cor. 4:6 (ESVS) For God, who said, “Let light shine out of darkness,” has shone in our hearts to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.

We learned much and continue to learn much about God through Christ.

In the context of this conversation, I think that we will certainly 'know' more of His Glory, as we see His eternal purpose unfold and how that manifests.

This will at the least give an appreciation of Almighty God and His characteristics.

1Cor. 13:12 (NAS20S) For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face; now I know in part, but then I will know fully, just as I also have been fully known.

I think that God very much desires that we know Him.

I also do believe this is all very much about us. God perhaps, does not 'need' any of the reason for His Creation--He has made it and us and has sacrificed Himself to bring us to Himself.

That brings us full circle again-----WHY?

[Michael37]

11 hours ago, Alive said:

Perhaps a look at the meanings of that word glory and glorify?

In the NT Greek, the word is doxa:

G1391   δόξα   doxa   166x  

pr. a seeming; appearance; a notion, imagination, opinion; the opinion which obtains respecting one; reputation, credit, honor, glory; in NT honorable consideration,

I look at this as a recognition of how a thing or being 'is'. Characteristics and such. This then leads to an opinion and sense of that 'glory'. Sun, moon, trees, stars---God.

2Cor. 4:6 (ESVS) For God, who said, “Let light shine out of darkness,” has shone in our hearts to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.

We learned much and continue to learn much about God through Christ.

In the context of this conversation, I think that we will certainly 'know' more of His Glory, as we see His eternal purpose unfold and how that manifests.

This will at the least give an appreciation of Almighty God and His characteristics.

1Cor. 13:12 (NAS20S) For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face; now I know in part, but then I will know fully, just as I also have been fully known.

I think that God very much desires that we know Him.

I also do believe this is all very much about us. God perhaps, does not 'need' any of the reason for His Creation--He has made it and us and has sacrificed Himself to bring us to Himself.

That brings us full circle again-----WHY?

Resonant thoughts from you, Alive.

Thinking about the purpose of God being symbolised in the showbread of the OT Tabernacle, and putting this in simple terms, basically God wants His Called Out Ones in His Presence.

Eph 5:27  that He might present her to Himself a glorious ekklesia (Lit. trans.those called out), not having spot or wrinkle or any such thing, but that she should be holy and without blemish.

God considers it worth finishing what He started, so yes, full circle it is.