WOMEN PASTORS

[jackie d]

Vickilynn, my age is of no concern to you and I know what I've done, I freely admit it. I am angry. Boiling in fact. But not for the reasons you would like to think. I've been on these boards long enough to know what is allowed and what isn't. And as far as I'm concerned my personal attack on you is no more or less than yours on mine as you just freely admitted that your entire goal was to ruffle my feathers...you laugh in my face all you want. I am fully aware of the situation. And I will speak in the face of the enemy every time.

Shalom Jackie,

Sorry you're angry, but you really need to chill. Look at G-d's Word dear. Another good example of why women should not lead. Too emotional. I'm asking how old you are because of your less-than-mature responses. Justified in your mind or not, you're sinning and violating TOS.

Colossians 3

8But now you must put them all away: anger, wrath, malice, slander, and obscene talk from your mouth. 9 Do not lie to one another, seeing that you have put off the old self with its practices

Hbr 4:12 For the word of God [is] living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

I send your own words back to you Vickilynn as you were obviously out to draw blood. You spoke it and you enjoyed it. You laugh in my face. And I don't believe a word you say when you tell me you're sorry I'm angry. If anyone should chill it should be you. For the talons of your paws bear my blood.

[Vickilynn]

I send your own words back to you Vickilynn as you were obviously out to draw blood. You spoke it and you enjoyed it. You laugh in my face. And I don't believe a word you say when you tell me you're sorry I'm angry. If anyone should chill it should be you. For the talons of your paws bear my blood.

Shalom Jackie,

Oh, grow up girl! What drama!! Talons? Too funny!

I'm not the one "boiling mad" dear, you are.

You don't have a clue what my heart motives are. And your continued unChrist-like attacks just keep proving the point. Either give it to Jesus or let it go.

[jackie d]

I send your own words back to you Vickilynn as you were obviously out to draw blood. You spoke it and you enjoyed it. You laugh in my face. And I don't believe a word you say when you tell me you're sorry I'm angry. If anyone should chill it should be you. For the talons of your paws bear my blood.

Shalom Jackie,

Oh, grow up girl! What drama!! Talons? Too funny!

I'm not the one "boiling mad" dear, you are.

You don't have a clue what my heart motives are. And your continued unChrist-like attacks just keep proving the point. Either give it to Jesus or let it go.

I noticed you keep coming back....anyway, 'nough said you don't know me and I don't know you.

[Vickilynn]

I noticed you keep coming back....anyway, 'nough said you don't know me and I don't know you.

Shalom,

And why shouldn't I keep coming back?I'm not the one who said I was "leaving this tedious topic alone" many pages back and then keeps posting.

okay, I need to make a point here and then I'll leave this tedious topic alone.

I think you're funny actually, but I really am sorry you're so mad.

[Guest Biblicist]

Vickilynn, my age is of no concern to you and I know what I've done, I freely admit it. I am angry. Boiling in fact. But not for the reasons you would like to think. I've been on these boards long enough to know what is allowed and what isn't. And as far as I'm concerned my personal attack on you is no more or less than yours on mine as you just freely admitted that your entire goal was to ruffle my feathers...you laugh in my face all you want. I am fully aware of the situation. And I will speak in the face of the enemy every time.

Proverbs 29:11 A fool gives full vent to his anger,

but a wise man keeps himself under control.

Please, grow up in the LORD. Age has nothing to do with spiritual maturity.

I'll post my statement again, in case it was missed.

I'm starting to get the idea that women, and men, believe that those who believe God's word teaches against Female Preachers are "ignorant" or "willingly oppressed". Poor, poor pitiful us! We find Scripture very clear, with muddied eyes! WOW. The blind leading the blind...Oh, my!

So if we believe that we can not preach, or have authority over men, that makes us stupid? Under-educated? Foolish? Somehow shy of the "wisdom" God has given those more enlightend who believe God's word doesn't really mean what it says it means and we just aren't smart enough to find the "hidden" message in there.

Or possibly not smart enough, to do as the Bereans, and study the Scriptures to find out if what we are being taught is correct.

Baiscally, what you are saying is, "You poor pitiful women, who have been oppressed all these years, you can't understand your plight, I've been more enlightened, [God speaks more to me than to you/I read His word, more often or better than you do] therefore I know more than you do. And since you couldn't possibly understand God's word the way I do, I will share my wisdom with you."

Now, please, help me to understand, why would I want to listen to a woman preacher who tells me that I can't possibly understand the scriptures the way she does because I read it differently?

That is the same type of oppression you claim the "MEN" of the Bible tried to impose upon women. Listen to me, I know better than you.

Philippians 2

3 Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit, but in humility consider others better than yourselves.

4 Each of you should look not only to your own interests, but also to the interests of others.

5 Your attitude should be the same as that of Christ Jesus:

6 Who, being in very nature God,

did not consider equality with God something to be grasped,

7 but made himself nothing,

taking the very nature of a servant,

being made in human likeness.

8 And being found in appearance as a man,

he humbled himself

and became obedient to death

[jackie d]

the mad is over. and if you haven't noticed I haven't said one more word about the topic itself, merely the way you have purposely baited me. If you truly are sorry I was so mad, then admit that you hold responsibility in this little issue that has sprung up here and stop talking to me as if I am some idiot that just fell off a turnip truck....belittling another human being isn't very Christ-like either but you have managed to do it every time you address one of my posts.

[Vickilynn]

the mad is over. and if you haven't noticed I haven't said one more word about the topic itself, merely the way you have purposely baited me. If you truly are sorry I was so mad, then admit that you hold responsibility in this little issue that has sprung up here and stop talking to me as if I am some idiot that just fell off a turnip truck....belittling another human being isn't very Christ-like either but you have managed to do it every time you address one of my posts.

Shalom Sweetie,

I'm sorry, but you are responsible for your own actions. Each of us stand accountable before the L-rd.

No one is doing anything to you. No one is forcing you to attack others and be defensive and bitter. And it's not about YOU dear.

I understand you have some personal issues, but we really need to focus on the Scriptures and how they apply.

Maybe you could just lighten up a little and talk about the topic instead of yourself?

[jackie d]

belittling another human being isn't very Christ-like either but you have managed to do it every time you address one of my posts.

Shalom Sweetie,

I'm sorry, but you are responsible for your own actions. Each of us stand accountable before the L-rd.

No one is doing anything to you. No one is forcing you to attack others and be defensive and bitter. And it's not about YOU dear.

[Vickilynn]

Shalom [Jackie}e,

I'm sorry, but you are responsible for your own actions. Each of us stand accountable before the L-rd.

No one is doing anything to you. No one is forcing you to attack others and be defensive and bitter. And it's not about YOU dear.

I understand you have some personal issues, but we really need to focus on the Scriptures and how they apply.

Maybe you could just lighten up a little and talk about the topic instead of yourself?

[Scarletprayers]

You still haven't shown a single scripture in context that even supports your postion, and just ignore anything anyone says. You say focus on scriptures, well you mustnt be able to read very well, because you need to go back to the examples we've already given.

Talk about complete hypocrissy. You blind guide. Try reading your Bible for once, instead of relying on your husband or daddy to do it for you. Maybe if you actually thought for yourself about the meaning of scripture instead of parroting what someone else told you, you'd understand the Bible.

Then you wonder why I have the position I take. You decieve your own self, and then berate other believers and find fault with them for their issues beyond your own comprehension.

Untill you can actually address the passages I quoted in any way other than simply waving your hand and lying and discounting them, I consider this discussion over.

And this is edifying and Christian, calling someone a liar and blind, and they need to think for themselves instead of letting their daddy or husband do it???? You should have considered this discussion over before you made this hateful post.