Where had Jesus been for the previous three days?

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1 hour ago, Walter Goraj jr said:

It's hard for me to imagine having this conversation, just saying. The resurrection is to be raised to life again...from what, nothingness? No, from a corpse. Therefore all scriptures containing the resurrection are proof of this. 

As pertaining to Christ, read Matthew 28and Acts 1. Put 2 and 2 together....

( Mt. 28:6) "He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay."  ( And the body was no longer there. Did it just disappear? With your doctrine you are forced to believe that).

 

 

^{(Acts 1:2)} Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through the Holy Ghost had given commandments unto the apostles whom he had chosen:

³ To whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God: ( Jesus was with them in His glorified spiritual body). 

 

The body of Christ was without sin therefore His body did not decay. Your body of flesh is corrupt with sin therefore it can not be glorified.

The unjust will be resurrected to damnation. Resurrection is not proof text of glorification.

1Co 1:29  That no flesh should glory in his presence. 
1Co 1:30  But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption: 
1Co 1:31  That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord. 

Please provide proof text for glorification of flesh.

Christ Jesus was glorified when he returned to the Father not at His resurrection.

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14 hours ago, Angee Licaa said:

There are a number of views given such as

One prevalent (original) belief is that during the three days that Jesus' body was confined in the tomb, he went to hell. This is based on the following passages from the Bible:
1. "He was not left in hell (Hades, Hell) — this is explained by the fact that He entered and then exited, and His flesh did not see any deterioration." He was, however, resurrected afterward (Acts 2:31).

2. Peter claimed that Jesus preached to "prisoners of conscience." 1 Peter 3:19 Inferred from this scripture is that He went to hell to preach.
3. "Therefore it is written: He rose to a high place, leading many captives, And grant favors to mankind," writes the apostle Paul in Ephesians 4:8-9.

Now, what do the words "He ascended" mean, did not He also descend into the lowlands of the earth?" At that time some believers believed that Jesus brought all the souls of the dead believers from their place in the Sheol (taken from "Sheol" and attributed to the meaning of hell) and brought them to heaven with Him because they had to wait for His death and resurrection before they could enter heaven. “But now Christ has been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who sleep.” (1 Cor. 15:20)
4. The Apostles' Creed declares that: Jesus has come down to the grave.
5. Some believers hold that no one can enter heaven until Jesus died, resurrected, and ascended to heaven (1 Cor. 15:20; John 14:3)

6. The Word-Faith movement added unorthodox teaching to this view. They claim that Jesus defeated Satan in hell, and then He was born again.

Many Bible scholars believe that when Jesus died on the cross, His spirit ascended to heaven to be with the Father for three days before His resurrection and return to earth ( second point of view). This group is based on the following scriptures:

1. “Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, Father, into your hands I leave my spirit! As soon as he finished speaking, he stopped breathing." (Luke 23:36). Thus the soul of Jesus returned to the Father after His death on the cross.

2. Jesus said to the robber as He was hung on the cross, “Truly I say to you, today you will be with me in Paradise.” ) either translates as the garden of joy or translates as heaven (Luke 23:43). This is explained as Jesus went to heaven (Paradise) after He died on the cross. They also interpret Paradise here as the third heaven when compared with Paul's words: “I know a man in Christ who, fourteen years ago, was taken up to the third heavens. (either in the body or out of the body, I don't know, God knows).” (2 Cor. 12:2)

3. In the Old Testament Enoch was taken to heaven and did not have to experience death (Genesis 5:4; Heb. 11:5).

4. Elijah was also taken to heaven like Enoch (2 Kings 2:1).

When we look at the first point of view, we can see:

1. “The lower regions of the earth” (Ephesians 4:9) do not refer to hell (as opposed to below earth in Philippians 2:10) but to the tomb where Jesus' body is located. sealed.

2. The apostles' creed was not written with the inspiration of the Holy Ghost. The first version of this article does not include the phrase “He descended into the underworld….”

3. The word hell is not an accurate translation of the word “grave” used in Psalm 16:10-11 and Acts 2:31. We also refer to the EHV English Bible.

“Because God will not leave my soul in the grave (Vietnamese version translated as Hades)

Nor do you let God's holy people see corruption." (Ps. 16:10)

“He was not left in the grave (the Vietnamese version of the KT translated this place as Hades), and His flesh did not see corruption.” (Acts 2:31)

“he saw what was coming and spoke about the resurrection of Christ, saying that he was neither abandoned to the grave nor did his flesh see decay.” (Acts 2:31 EHV)

Peter used this verse to announce Christ's resurrection from the Sheol, not to say that the Lord's spirit had gone to hell.

4. When Paul wrote, “Therefore it is written, He ascended to a high place, and led many captives,” (Ephesians 4:8), he may not have meant bringing up souls. to heaven because believers are not exiles. The apostle was referring to Christ defeating the devil (Read Colossians 2 and Hebrews 2) and proclaiming His victory over hostile forces through resurrection power.

5. Jesus defeated Satan through death (Heb. 2:14) and through resurrection (Romans 4:25) rather than defeating Satan in hell. Before the hour of his crucifixion, Jesus said, “Now is the judgment of this world, and now the rulers of this world must be cast out.” (John 12:31). And then when He was hung on the cross He announced, "It is finished." (John 19:30; Heb. 1:3)

6. “But now Christ has been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who sleep.” (1 Cor. 15:20). This means that no one can take a resurrected body and go to heaven until Christ is resurrected. But this does not mean that the spirit of man cannot enter heaven before the resurrection of Christ. After all, Christ is the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world (Rev. 13:8; Ephesians 1:4). In God's plan salvation is an event that was accomplished even before Jesus had to die, because "God knows the end from the beginning." (Isaiah 46:10)

7. Peter writes that Jesus preaching to imprisoned souls does not mean that this preaching occurred between the death and resurrection of the Lord. The context of the verse is, “And Christ also died for sins once, the righteous for the unrighteous, to lead us unto God; in the flesh, He died, but in the spirit He was resurrected. It was by the same soul that he went and preached to the souls in prison, the former rebellious, about the days of Noah…” (1 Peter 3:18-20). The text here makes it clear that after He was "resurrected" (resurrected), He preached to "the souls in prison, the former rebellious." When Peter wrote these words he was probably referring to Jesus' victory over demonic powers (Ephesians 4:8; Colossians 2:15).

Did Jesus go to hell between His death and resurrection?

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ANSWER

There is a great deal of confusion regarding this question. The concept that Jesus went to hell after His death on the cross comes primarily from the Apostles’ Creed, which states, “He descended into hell.” There are also a few Scriptures which, depending on how they are translated, describe Jesus going to “hell.” In studying this issue, it is important to first understand what the Bible teaches about the realm of the dead.
 

 

In the Hebrew Scriptures, the word used to describe the realm of the dead is sheol. It simply means “the place of the dead” or “the place of departed souls/spirits.” The New Testament Greek equivalent of sheol is hades, which also refers to “the place of the dead.” Other Scriptures in the New Testament indicate that sheol/hades is a temporary place, where souls are kept as they await the final resurrection and judgment. Revelation 20:11–15 gives a clear distinction between hades and the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the permanent and final place of judgment for the lost. Hades, then, is a temporary place. Many people refer to both hades and the lake of fire as “hell,” and this causes confusion. Jesus did not go to a place of torment after His death, but He did go to hades.

Sheol/hades is a realm with two divisions—a place of blessing and a place of judgment (Matthew 11:23; 16:18; Luke 10:15; 16:23; Acts 2:27–31). The abodes of the saved and the lost are both generally called “hades” in the Bible. The abode of the saved is also called “Abraham’s bosom” (KJV) or “Abraham’s side” (NIV) in Luke 16:22 and “paradise” in Luke 23:43. The abodes of the saved and the lost are separated by a “great chasm” (Luke 16:26). When Jesus died, He went to the blessed side of sheol, or paradise. (Some believe, based on a particular interpretation of Ephesians 4:8–10, that Jesus took believers with Him from sheol to another place of bliss that we now call heaven. More likely, Ephesians 4 refers to the ascension of Christ.) All the unbelieving dead go to the cursed side of hades to await the final judgment. All the believing dead go to the blessed side of hades to await the resurrection. Did Jesus go to sheol/hades? Yes, according to Jesus’ own words, He went to the blessed region of sheol.

Some of the confusion has arisen from such passages as Psalm 16:10–11 as translated in the King James Version: “For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. . . . Thou wilt show me the path of life.” “Hell” is not a correct translation in this verse. A correct reading would be “the grave” or “sheol.” Jesus said to the thief beside Him, “Today you will be with me in paradise” (Luke 23:43); He did not say, “I will see you in hell.” Jesus’ body was in the tomb; His soul/spirit went to be with the blessed in sheol/hades. Unfortunately, in many versions of the Bible, translators are not consistent, or correct, in how they translate the Hebrew and Greek words for “sheol,” “hades,” and “hell.”

Some have the viewpoint that Jesus went to “hell” or the suffering side of sheol/hades in order to further be punished for our sins. This idea is completely unbiblical. It was the death of Jesus on the cross that sufficiently provided for our redemption. It was His shed blood that effected our own cleansing from sin (1 John 1:7–9). As He hung there on the cross, He took the sin burden of the whole human race upon Himself. He became sin for us: “God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God” (2 Corinthians 5:21). This imputation of sin helps us understand Christ’s struggle in the garden of Gethsemane with the cup of sin which would be poured out upon Him on the cross.

As Jesus neared death, He said, “It is finished” (John 19:30). His suffering in our place was completed. His soul/spirit went to hades (the place of the dead). Jesus did not go to “hell” or the suffering side of hades; He went to “Abraham’s side” or the blessed side of hades. Jesus’ suffering ended the moment He died. The payment for sin was paid. He then awaited the resurrection of His body and His return to glory in His ascension. Did Jesus go to hell? No. Did Jesus go to sheol/hades? Yes.

Edited May 30, 2022 by missmuffet

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13 minutes ago, Walter Goraj jr said:

I stopped at this point:

"Other Scriptures in the New Testament indicate that sheol/hades is a temporary place, where souls are kept as they await the final resurrection and judgment"

That's an opinion, not a Biblical fact.

Upon death, the redeemed soul goes to be with Jesus in heaven. 

The unsaved soul upon death is destroyed in hell, or the grave.

In the resurrection at the last day, the redeemed soul is united with it's new body. Now because there is no place of eternal torture for the unsaved, their remains will be resurrected on the face of the earth, but because there is no soul to be united with it, it simply remains there ....the payment for sin is death. 

In order to have the proper understanding we must, must realize that the place called " hell" is about six feet under.

 

Suit yourself. 

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On 5/30/2022 at 10:57 AM, Justin Adams said:

To answet the OP, read the Apostle's Creed.

1 Peter 3:18-20

For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God. He was put to death in the body but made alive in the Spirit. After being made alive, he went and made proclamation to the imprisoned spirit – to those who were disobedient long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built...

This was well understood in all the church before the reformation seemed to edit and often delete this concept.

1Pe 3:18  For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: 
1Pe 3:19  By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; 
1Pe 3:20  Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water. 
1Pe 3:21  The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ: 
1Pe 3:22  Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him. 

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On 5/30/2022 at 11:42 AM, Walter Goraj jr said:

I just read this and went no further:

"The body of Christ was without sin therefore His body did not decay. Your body of flesh is corrupt with sin therefore it can not be glorified."

Jesus Christ became the the first example of the resurrection. He was  "the firstfruits of them that slept". The way we are resurrected is the same way as Jesus was. There is no disclaimer that says otherwise. You are the one, (and the other guy) that must lay down the evidence of a glorified body appearing out of thin air. 

Jesus did many miraculous things before His resurrection thus He did not need to be glorified to walk through a wall or appear out of thin air.
Jesus was resurrected in the flesh but not glorified until His ascension when He returned to the glory he had with the Father before He became flesh.

Joh 12:23  And Jesus answered them, saying, The hour is come, that the Son of man should be glorified. 
Joh 12:24  Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit. 

Joh 12:31  Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out. 
Joh 12:32  And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me. 
Joh 12:33  This he said, signifying what death he should die. 

Jesus is speaking of His death and that he must be lifted up from the earth and glorified to draw men to Him and we know the Holy Spirit reveals the gospel of Christ to us. 

Joh 16:5  But now I go my way to him that sent me; and none of you asketh me, Whither goest thou? 
Joh 16:6  But because I have said these things unto you, sorrow hath filled your heart. 
Joh 16:7  Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. 
Joh 16:8  And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:

We know that Jesus would send the Holy Spirit after He was glorified. 

Joh 7:39  (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.) 

1Ti 3:16  And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. 

The Holy Spirit was given at Pentecost and it was fifty days after His resurrection.
It is not difficult for anyone to see that the body of Jesus was not glorified until His ascension.

Php 3:19  Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.) 
Php 3:20  For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: 
Php 3:21  Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.