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Should a fetus count as a car passenger? Pregnant Texas woman says yes, fights ticket


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A pregnant woman in Texas plans to fight a ticket she received for driving in the high-occupancy vehicle lane alone, saying the overturn of Roe v. Wade means her unborn child counts as a passenger.

The Dallas Morning News first reported the incident involving Brandy Bottone, who got a $215 ticket after being pulled over on U.S. Highway 75 South on June 29.

“An officer peeked in and asked, ‘Is there anybody else in the car?’” Bottone told the outlet. “I pointed to my stomach and said, ‘My baby girl is right here. She is a person.’” Source: USA Today

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I say yes.

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I say no because the child has not been born and it not out of the womb. The child and mother are still one person. 

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This is the matter of the spirit versus the letter of the law.

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4 hours ago, missmuffet said:

I say no because the child has not been born and it not out of the womb. The child and mother are still one person. 

If that is your argument, then you are contradicting what Christians mean when they say abortion is wrong. This is probably why this particular woman did this in the first place.

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1 minute ago, one.opinion said:

If that is your argument, then you are contradicting what Christians mean when they say abortion is wrong. This is probably why this particular woman did this in the first place.

Of course I think abortion is wrong. But that fetus within her is not a separate person in the car. It is in her womb. It is a part of her. Until that baby is born there will be two physical people. 

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so the child is not a physical entity ?????   You can see and touch the child well before he or she is born 

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The baby has a heartbeat. The baby is alive. Yes it counts. 

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16 hours ago, teddyv said:

This is the matter of the spirit versus the letter of the law.

Exactly. People being people, there will still be stunts like this in order to try to make a point.

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19 minutes ago, one.opinion said:

Exactly. People being people, there will still be stunts like this in order to try to make a point.

Also, as I thought a bit more, does Texas grant personhood now on the unborn? (I mean in the legal sense). Just because Roe was overturned does not imply all unborn are now granted that legal status.

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