Is Messianic Judaism ok?

[Snow4JC]

Greetings!

To me this is a judgement call. Not up to anyone on earth to decide.

I think Jesus The Christ would like to see more Jews recognize HIM, via the Messianic Judaism way.

Snow

[Qun Mang]

Anyone without Yeshua is lost.

If one knows Him as Jesus, that is better than not knowing Him at all...but Yeshua belongs to the Jews

Romans 1:16   

    I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes: primarily for the Jew, yet equally for the Gentile.

Matthew 15:24

He (Yeshua) answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel."

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Yod, could you please elaborate on this? I think I am reading something in this that you don't really mean.

[Trust & Obey]

There's nothing wrong with being a Messianic Jew. You are a fully completed Jew, as God intended Jews to be.

When a Jew gets saved they do not need to forsake their Jewish roots. That is who they are. But, their supreme identity must be Yeshua, not Israel/Jewishness.

[Guest yod]

Romans 1:16   

    I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes: primarily for the Jew, yet equally for the Gentile.

Yod, could you please elaborate on this?  I think I am reading something in this that you don't really mean.

what do you think I mean?

The gospel came to us through centuries of jewish suffering to maintain the Word of God.

Eph 2:19Consequently, you are no longer foreigners and aliens, but fellow citizens with God's people and members of God's household, built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone.

They are THE people of God. We are joined to them.....not them to us.

Of all peoples on the planet THEY should have known the day of their visitation. The "good news" of salvation is primarily for the people of God yet equally "good news" to those outside of the covenants of promise.

Which included us until we became partakers of the covenants and promises made to Israel through adoption.

[Qun Mang]

Thank you, Yod. I was reading it wrong. I fully agree with what you are saying. Well, except for this:

If one knows Him as Jesus, that is better than not knowing Him at all...but Yeshua belongs to the Jews

What's in a name? Isn't Jesus just Yeshua in another language? Don't we also know most (all?) of the apostles by the Greek (may be wrong on the language) versions of their Hebrew names? Whether we know Him as Jesus or Yeshua shouldn't matter, as long as we know Him.

Also, I would say the Jews belong to Yeshua, not the other way around.

[Qun Mang]

Here's an interesting question- I have a friend who actually became a Messianic after he became saved. That is, he was not raised as a Jew (Catholic actually), but some time after he accepted Christ in college he chose to live in the same tradition as a Messianic Jew. What are some thoughts on this?

[Guest yod]

Thank you, Yod.

[Snow4JC]

There's nothing wrong with being a Messianic Jew. You are a fully completed Jew, as God intended Jews to be.

When a Jew gets saved they do not need to forsake their Jewish roots. That is who they are. But, their supreme identity must be Yeshua, not Israel/Jewishness.

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I believe that the Messianic Jew has one thing up on us gentiles. The Messianic Jew was first born as a jew. We gentiles are drafted in yes, yet there is a difference.

Snow

[Qun Mang]

Okay, past time to reply. That is an interesting thing yod mentions that I haven't really thought about, assuming I am getting his meaning correctly. As Christians, we too are Jews, adopted into God's family. I wonder why this isn't taught more? We all learn that we become sons and daughters of God when we accept Christ, but no one mentions further what that means. Israel has always been God's people and still are, which means that when He adopts and makes us part of His family, we become Jews as they have always been His family since Abraham.

However, as Gentile Christians we are taught that we don't need to follow Jewish customs, presumably since they are of the old Covenant and we enter under the new Covenant, Jesus Christ. Please correct me if I am in error here. This does bring up the question though of why Messianic Jews (born Jewish) still celebrate Jewish customs while Gentile Christians do not. Is there a problem either way? I know when my friend started celebrating Jewish customs he stopped celebrating Christmas and Easter, those not being in the Bible. I haven't spoken to him in several years, so I don't know if this is still the case.

[Guest yod]

I have a friend who adopted a Korean girl.

She is a beautiful little girl and because the parents love her so much, they not only adopted her, they also "adopted" a little of her Korean culture into their Anglo household.

As much as her former culture might mean to this little girl throughout her life, she has come into a totally different family and was brought up with a very different standard and culture.

She has no right or authority to demand that her adoptive parents act like Koreans.

This is comparable to christians who think that Israel and/or the jews must join the "christian" church. Hear what I am not saying; The Church has become very culturally European gentile.

Nothing inherantly wrong with a European gentile cultural heritage...but that heritage has practially nothing to do with the Bible. The jews heritage IS the Bible.