The Way

[Your closest friendnt]

1 hour ago, DPMartin said:

i would disagree there, a man knows his own way whether he pays any attention to it or not. you go down a road enough times you know the road. besides to experience is to know

 

Sure one could say God made all things, and one could say He understands the ways of the flesh, and He expresses to Noah His knowledge on the subject of what man is and man’s ways:

Gen_8:21  And the LORD smelled a sweet savour; and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done.

Noah found out something he did not thought about it and he never expect it...

Noah never understood that his descendants will end up worshipping the Idols, with the exception of few including Abraham...

He must have been totally taken by surprise to hear that from God, right after the flood...

He did what God asked him to do but he did not know what was in the mind of God, what was the extent of his purpose..and Noah could not perceived it, because it was impossible for him to perceived it, because he cannot see far ahead in the plan of God to take Abraham from his line of descendants and from the Messiah, Jesus the Christ to be born from a woman and in the people from his line, in Abraham under the Law of God..

Noah did not know and could not comprehend that God will provide forgiveness for the sins of the people for the whole world, that's why he will never do again what he did with the flood...he instant will invite the people to believe in his Son Jesus and have forgiveness of their sins in his blood....

Noah was in self righteousness could never have perceived that God will provide forgiveness for the sins for the people, that he will love the sinner and having his Son died for the whole world to reconciled the world to himself...

Noah never understood about reconciliation or how that will happen...

We are not worshiping the God of Noah, we are worshipping the man Jesus Christ, who died for the forgiveness of our sins the Son of the Heavenly Father....the Almighty when after as a man died for the forgiveness of our sins and opened the way to Heaven to the Heavenly Father...

Edited August 29, 2022 by Your closest friendnt

[The_Patriot21]

4 hours ago, DPMartin said:

i would disagree there, a man knows his own way whether he pays any attention to it or not. you go down a road enough times you know the road. besides to experience is to know

 

Sure one could say God made all things, and one could say He understands the ways of the flesh, and He expresses to Noah His knowledge on the subject of what man is and man’s ways:

Gen_8:21  And the LORD smelled a sweet savour; and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done.

No...the Bible says without Christ we are all lost for a reason...if we know our way we are not lost. If we don't know Christ, we are lost. We, in our arrogance may think we know our way-lile the passage you quoted in genesis states, the imagination of man's heart is evil from the beginning, but we do not know our way because the only way is God's way.

 

 

[Your closest friendnt]

1 hour ago, The_Patriot21 said:

No...the Bible says without Christ we are all lost for a reason...if we know our way we are not lost. If we don't know Christ, we are lost. We, in our arrogance may think we know our way-lile the passage you quoted in genesis states, the imagination of man's heart is evil from the beginning, but we do not know our way because the only way is God's way.

 

 

Thank you, very much. 

[Sower]

On 8/28/2022 at 10:59 AM, DPMartin said:

Every man knows his own way, therefore it can be easily seen and understood that that God knows His own way. Its true that no man knows another man’s way unless he walks in that man’s way. So it is, with God’s Way which is what?

For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.  Isaiah 55:8

To go in, one must come out. (John 15:19)
To go up, one must come down. (James 4:10)
To be first, one must be last. (Matthew 20:16)
To be great, one must be least. (Luke 9:48)
To be strong, one must become weak. (2 Corinthians 12:10)
To receive one must give. (Matthew 10:39)
To be up in front, one must take the back seat. (Luke 14:7-11)
To be exalted one must be humbled.  (Luke 14:11)
To be wise, one must become a fool. (1 Corinthians 3:18)
To find, one must lose. (Matthew 16:25)
To live, one must die. (Galatians 2:20; Jn 3:3)

“Trust in the Lord with all thine heart and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him and He shall direct thy paths” (Proverbs 3:5-6).

“God is not a man that He should lie” (Numbers 23:19)

“For the Lord seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the Lord looketh on the heart”
(1 Samuel 16-7)

“There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death” (Prov. 16:25).

Things which are unseen are eternal.
Things which are seen are temporal  (2 Corinthians 4:18)

“Bless them that curse you. Do good to them that hate you. Pray for them which despitefully use you and persecute you” (Matthew 5:44).
 “The natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him”  (1Cor. 2:14).

wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.  (Matthew 7:14)

With God, all things are possible.
With man, it is impossible. (Mark 10:27)

If you’re a friend of God, you’re an enemy of the world.
If you’re a friend of the world, you are an enemy of God, and the love of the Father is not in you. (James 4)

But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit,
and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.   (Romans 2:29)

Jesus saith unto him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” (John 14:6).

 

 

[DPMartin]

18 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said:

Noah found out something he did not thought about it and he never expect it...

Noah never understood that his descendants will end up worshipping the Idols, with the exception of few including Abraham...

He must have been totally taken by surprise to hear that from God, right after the flood...

He did what God asked him to do but he did not know what was in the mind of God, what was the extent of his purpose..and Noah could not perceived it, because it was impossible for him to perceived it, because he cannot see far ahead in the plan of God to take Abraham from his line of descendants and from the Messiah, Jesus the Christ to be born from a woman and in the people from his line, in Abraham under the Law of God..

Noah did not know and could not comprehend that God will provide forgiveness for the sins of the people for the whole world, that's why he will never do again what he did with the flood...he instant will invite the people to believe in his Son Jesus and have forgiveness of their sins in his blood....

Noah was in self righteousness could never have perceived that God will provide forgiveness for the sins for the people, that he will love the sinner and having his Son died for the whole world to reconciled the world to himself...

Noah never understood about reconciliation or how that will happen...

We are not worshiping the God of Noah, we are worshipping the man Jesus Christ, who died for the forgiveness of our sins the Son of the Heavenly Father....the Almighty when after as a man died for the forgiveness of our sins and opened the way to Heaven to the Heavenly Father...

Na, there’s no record of surprise in the text, also before the flood

Gen 6:5  And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. 

And it was Noah who found grace in God’s sight, and apparently no one else did in his day. It seems obvious that Noah was aware of the condition of the world at hand. Human nature hasn’t changed at all and it seems Noah understood it. Noah lived after the flood until Abraham was 50 years old.

[DPMartin]

16 hours ago, The_Patriot21 said:

No...the Bible says without Christ we are all lost for a reason...if we know our way we are not lost. If we don't know Christ, we are lost. We, in our arrogance may think we know our way-lile the passage you quoted in genesis states, the imagination of man's heart is evil from the beginning, but we do not know our way because the only way is God's way.

 

 

well if you are trying to find your way then you are misguided already

the way is God's way not yours Jesus is “the Way” according to Jesus and is the Word of God made flesh according to Apostle John therefore “the Way” meaning Jesus is of God therefore God’s Way. Not man’s

and as far as what was lost, lost isn’t your personal view of the Light so you can find your way that you didn’t have in the first place, so you couldn’t have lost it. What was lost is said from God’s view. Who was Adam:

Luk 3:38  Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God. 

Note Paul refers to Jesus as the second Adam, why you say, its because the Father sons relationship that men are made to have was lost.

The old adage of “I was lost and now I’m found” doesn’t mean you didn’t know where you were (though maybe you didn’t) it means through Adam you were lost, and through Jesus you are found.

 

also see sower's posting, it has suporting scripture.

Edited August 30, 2022 by DPMartin

[Your closest friendnt]

7 hours ago, DPMartin said:

Na, there’s no record of surprise in the text, also before the flood

Gen 6:5  And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. 

And it was Noah who found grace in God’s sight, and apparently no one else did in his day. It seems obvious that Noah was aware of the condition of the world at hand. Human nature hasn’t changed at all and it seems Noah understood it. Noah lived after the flood until Abraham was 50 years old.

You are not reading my post correctly, because from your response it seems that you may have skip read the post, but not carefully read it...you are off from the substance in the post...I am going to write it again letter...

Edited August 30, 2022 by Your closest friendnt

[DPMartin]

On 8/29/2022 at 12:00 PM, Your closest friendnt said:

 

Noah was in self righteousness could never have perceived that God will provide forgiveness for the sins for the people, that he will love the sinner and having his Son died for the whole world to reconciled the world to himself...

Noah never understood about reconciliation or how that will happen...

We are not worshiping the God of Noah, we are worshipping the man Jesus Christ, who died for the forgiveness of our sins the Son of the Heavenly Father....the Almighty when after as a man died for the forgiveness of our sins and opened the way to Heaven to the Heavenly Father...

how was it, and where does it say Noah was in self righteousness, i didn't see that text anywhere in scripture

also, you should speak for yourself on who or what God you worship, the God of Jesus Christ is the same God of Noah. The God of Abel Enoch Noah Abraham Isaac Jacob King David and Israel in general is the same God of Jesus Christ.

[Your closest friendnt]

46 minutes ago, DPMartin said:

how was it, and where does it say Noah was in self righteousness, i didn't see that text anywhere in scripture

also, you should speak for yourself on who or what God you worship, the God of Jesus Christ is the same God of Noah. The God of Abel Enoch Noah Abraham Isaac Jacob King David and Israel in general is the same God of Jesus Christ.

We have to discuss this..

Precept upon precept from a lot of scripture. 

 

[The_Patriot21]

9 hours ago, DPMartin said:

well if you are trying to find your way then you are misguided already

the way is God's way not yours Jesus is “the Way” according to Jesus and is the Word of God made flesh according to Apostle John therefore “the Way” meaning Jesus is of God therefore God’s Way. Not man’s

and as far as what was lost, lost isn’t your personal view of the Light so you can find your way that you didn’t have in the first place, so you couldn’t have lost it. What was lost is said from God’s view. Who was Adam:

Luk 3:38  Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God. 

Note Paul refers to Jesus as the second Adam, why you say, its because the Father sons relationship that men are made to have was lost.

The old adage of “I was lost and now I’m found” doesn’t mean you didn’t know where you were (though maybe you didn’t) it means through Adam you were lost, and through Jesus you are found.

 

also see sower's posting, it has suporting scripture.

Well...that's what you said in your original post that every man knows his own way...but a man who doesn't know God doesn't know His way...