The debt that was owed….

[Not me]

Colossians 2:14 (NASB20)
having canceled the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against us, which was hostile to us; and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.

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This certificate of debt, what was it, and to whom or what was it owed..? 

Was it to God or something else…? 

It was a debt owed to the law, God in His infinite love set about moving all of Heaven and earth to make a way for this debt that man acquired by the breaking of the law to be satisfied… He did this by sending His beloved Son to take all of the law’s righteous judgement upon Himself.. For after the fall God’s heart toward man was just love, just looking and waiting for the time when fellowship with His image and likeness would be restored…. This fall of man created something that God’s heart could not tolerate, that being, separated from His image…

So He set His heart on paying the debt that man owed, the receiver of that payment was the righteous requirements of the law…. So the very second that debt was payed the vail in the temple was torn restoring God to His image…. 

For God has no anger towards man because he fell, His heart is always love, for that is what He is, infinite love always, to all creatures to all eternity… Even to the fallen angels He is love, but they can only experience His love as their highest contrary, so they can only experience His love as a flame of fire, fire being the ultimate expression of contrary…

The debt that man owed he owed to the law, as do the fallen angels, but the fallen angels can not die so they can never fulfill the debt they owe…. Man could die, this is why in Genesis God put a cherub in front of the tree of life so man could not partake and be in the same situation the fallen angels are in, that being, never able to die to fulfill their debt to the law…

This is God’s great salvation to mankind, the fulfillment of the law concerning man…  This is why reckoning oneself dead to sin and alive to God by faith, is the one and only way to come out from under one’s fallen nature….. For Christ did pay our debt by taking the believer to death with Him, so any that would be willing could die with His death and be raised to a new life as He was raised to a new life…. Raised again to a new life so that one could be restored to fellowship with Perfect Love itself... 

This is how God paid our debt to the law, that being the glory of the great salvation, that is, being joined with Christ in both His death and His resurrection….

To the praise of His infinite glory, Not me 

[DPMartin]

15 hours ago, Not me said:

Colossians 2:14 (NASB20)
having canceled the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against us, which was hostile to us; and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.

   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
This certificate of debt, what was it, and to whom or what was it owed..? 

Was it to God or something else…? 

It was a debt owed to the law, God in His infinite love set about moving all of Heaven and earth to make a way for this debt that man acquired by the breaking of the law to be satisfied… He did this by sending His beloved Son to take all of the law’s righteous judgement upon Himself.. For after the fall God’s heart toward man was just love, just looking and waiting for the time when fellowship with His image and likeness would be restored…. This fall of man created something that God’s heart could not tolerate, that being, separated from His image…

So He set His heart on paying the debt that man owed, the receiver of that payment was the righteous requirements of the law…. So the very second that debt was payed the vail in the temple was torn restoring God to His image…. 

For God has no anger towards man because he fell, His heart is always love, for that is what He is, infinite love always, to all creatures to all eternity… Even to the fallen angels He is love, but they can only experience His love as their highest contrary, so they can only experience His love as a flame of fire, fire being the ultimate expression of contrary…

The debt that man owed he owed to the law, as do the fallen angels, but the fallen angels can not die so they can never fulfill the debt they owe…. Man could die, this is why in Genesis God put a cherub in front of the tree of life so man could not partake and be in the same situation the fallen angels are in, that being, never able to die to fulfill their debt to the law…

This is God’s great salvation to mankind, the fulfillment of the law concerning man…  This is why reckoning oneself dead to sin and alive to God by faith, is the one and only way to come out from under one’s fallen nature….. For Christ did pay our debt by taking the believer to death with Him, so any that would be willing could die with His death and be raised to a new life as He was raised to a new life…. Raised again to a new life so that one could be restored to fellowship with Perfect Love itself... 

This is how God paid our debt to the law, that being the glory of the great salvation, that is, being joined with Christ in both His death and His resurrection….

To the praise of His infinite glory, Not me 

I wouldn’t trust the NASB at all (use to have one in the 70’s) let alone NASB20 version

Reason being the Easy- to- Read Version or ERV (which in theory is a paraphrase) says the same as the NASB20 which is supposed to be based on ASV. See the following:

ERV 14  by canceling the record of debt that stood against us with its legal demands. This he set aside, nailing it to the cross

Where as the KJV and the rest say:

KJV 14  Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

ASV 14  having blotted out the bond written in ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us: and he hath taken it out of the way, nailing it to the cross;

RV 14  having blotted out the bond written in ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us: and he hath taken it out of the way, nailing it to the cross;

 

That said, an ordinance and a debit are not the same concepts. IOU, and don’t do that or you must do that, are not the same.

Though its true that the born again have been bought, that doesn’t mean there is debit involved in the text you’ve quoted.

it is the Lord God Himself that is owed, not the law, and He sent His Word into the world as the Son of Man (Jesus Christ) and made it good on our side of the covenant for our sakes, and His own reasons also.

But in the case of Paul speaking of debit here, is very questionable.

Edited September 2, 2022 by DPMartin

[Not me]

11 minutes ago, DPMartin said:

I wouldn’t trust the NASB at all (use to have one in the 70’s) let alone NASB20 version

Reason being the Easy- to- Read Version or ERV (which in theory is a paraphrase) says the same as the NASB20 which is supposed to be based on ASV. See the following:

ERV 14  by canceling the record of debt that stood against us with its legal demands. This he set aside, nailing it to the cross

Where as the KJV and the rest say:

KJV 14  Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

ASV 14  having blotted out the bond written in ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us: and he hath taken it out of the way, nailing it to the cross;

RV 14  having blotted out the bond written in ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us: and he hath taken it out of the way, nailing it to the cross;

 

That said, an ordinance and a debit are not the same concepts. IOU, and don’t do that or you must do that, are not the same.

Though its true that the born again have been bought, that doesn’t mean there is debit involved in the text you’ve quoted.

it is the Lord God Himself that is owed, not the law, and He sent His Word into the world as the Son of Man (Jesus Christ) and made it good on our side of the covenant for our sakes, and His own reasons also.

But in the case of Paul speaking of debit here, is very questionable.

Hi, and thank you for your thoughts…

As Christ reveals by experience the truths described in scripture, do we know those truths by substance….

Be blessed in that substance, Not me

[TheBlade]

The fact He took it to the Cross and its gone.. praise GOD glory to Jesus.. Aman OP.. thanks https://worthychristianforums-h45go6maxh5rpepgu.netdna-ssl.com/uploads/emoticons/default_smile.png

[DPMartin]

9 minutes ago, Not me said:

Hi, and thank you for your thoughts…

As Christ reveals by experience the truths described in scripture, do we know those truths by substance….

Be blessed in that substance, Not me

No

absolutely not.

you know those truths by the revelation of the Word of God that is the Truth.

 

and your substance is not a blessing if its not the Word of God.

[Not me]

1 minute ago, TheBlade said:

The fact He took it to the Cross and its gone.. praise GOD glory to Jesus.. Aman OP.. thanks https://worthychristianforums-h45go6maxh5rpepgu.netdna-ssl.com/uploads/emoticons/default_smile.png

Greetings and peace, and be blessed in your relationship with the One that took, for in that relationship, as you know, is our life…

Unto Him be our all, Not me

[Not me]

1 minute ago, DPMartin said:

No

absolutely not.

you know those truths by the revelation of the Word of God that is the Truth.

 

and your substance is not a blessing if its not the Word of God.

As He teaches you be blessed…

 

A fellow follower, Not me