God Can Not Change?

[Anne2]

12 minutes ago, Jedi4Yahweh said:

Anne I appreciate your thoughts and wisdom, you seem well educated in the scriptures.  

Question are saying Messiah is a Levite?

I was doing a study on this not too long ago.  That Mary is a close relative to Elizbeth whom was considered a descendant of Aaron (Levite).  Which makes perfect sense that Mary was also a descendant of Aaron being that they are relatives.  According the Law only a Levite and more specifically a descendant of Aaron could only serve as a Priest.  Scriptures makes it clear that Joseph Jesus's non-biological father was from the tribe of Judah, but it seems Jesus's biological mother Mary was a daughter of Aaron (Levite).  This would give Jesus perfect right to be a priest even more High Priest.

The carnal command has been disannulled in the new covenant. So genealogy does not matter. So, no I am not speaking of Messiah as a Levite.

Marys lineage I am not so sure is a genealogy. I think it could be the seed of the woman in the marital covenant from the beginning. The two being made one flesh. Joseph in marriage to Marry was one flesh with her.

Heb 7:14  For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.
15  And it is yet far more evident: for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another priest,
16  Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.
17  For he testifieth, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.
18  For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.

Just giving some opinions. I certainly could be misunderstanding some things for sure. An example would be Levi. The Levites were not heirs with Israel in the land. Levi was not heirs with Israel nor had any portion with Israel. So, I could be off on the covenant thing a bit. But thanks. But it does say their inheritance was the priesthood, the Lord's portion.

Edited September 24, 2022 by Anne2

[Jedi4Yahweh]

1 minute ago, Anne2 said:

The carnal command has been disannulled in the new covenant. So genealogy does not matter.

Heb 7:14  For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.
15  And it is yet far more evident: for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another priest,
16  Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.
17  For he testifieth, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.
18  For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.

Just giving some opinions. I certainly could be misunderstanding some things for sure. An example would be Levi. The Levites were not heirs with Israel in the land. Levi was not heirs with Israel nor had any portion with Israel. So, I could be off on the covenant thing a bit. But thanks. But it does say their inheritance was the priesthood, the Lord's portion.

Of course lineage matters.  If Jesus was born of a gentile he could not be the Messiah according the scriptures.  In order for Jesus to be King of Israel he had to be a descendant of David (Judah) according to scripture, but being that his mother was also the daughter of Aaron gives him dual right to be High priest as well.  He is both King and Priest.

[Anne2]

33 minutes ago, Jedi4Yahweh said:

Of course lineage matters.  If Jesus was born of a gentile he could not be the Messiah according the scriptures.  In order for Jesus to be King of Israel he had to be a descendant of David (Judah) according to scripture, but being that his mother was also the daughter of Aaron gives him dual right to be High priest as well.  He is both King and Priest.

lineage does not matter in the new covenant. Lineage matters in the levitical priesthood, not the priesthood of Melchizedek.

There is this thought, just speaking some thoughts here.

Scripture speaks of filfilling the law also the prophets. Just as it says of Melchizedek

Heb 7:28  For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore. 

Scripture speaks in terms of things

before the law  (Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, the patiarchs)

under the law (Sinai law)

since the law (after the law/apart from) Though never violating law 

king of Israel under the law, what is required?

Simply to be a Jew/ Hebrew. Saul was a jew, so was David. Different tribes.

Moses did not give Israel a king. God was their king.

Samuel the prophet was a judge over Israel, God was their king....... Paul mentions this

Acts 13:20  And after that he gave unto them judges about the space of four hundred and fifty years, until Samuel the prophet.
21  And afterward they desired a king: and God gave unto them Saul the son of Cis, a man of the tribe of Benjamin, by the space of forty years.
Saul, was their first king, of the tribe of Benjamin.......

It is by promise to David in covenant with him, since the law, God fulfilled as written in the prophets.

1 samuel 8:4  Then all the elders of Israel gathered themselves together, and came to Samuel unto Ramah,
5  And said unto him, Behold, thou art old, and thy sons walk not in thy ways: now make us a king to judge us like all the nations.
6  But the thing displeased Samuel, when they said, Give us a king to judge us. And Samuel prayed unto the LORD. {displeased: Heb. was evil in the eyes of }
7  And the LORD said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them.
8  According to all the works which they have done since the day that I brought them up out of Egypt even unto this day, wherewith they have forsaken me, and served other gods, so do they also unto thee.
 

But Moses did give commandment concerning any future installing of a king

De 17:14  When thou art come unto the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, and shalt possess it, and shalt dwell therein, and shalt say, I will set a king over me, like as all the nations that are about me;
De 17:15  Thou shalt in any wise set him king over thee, whom the LORD thy God shall choose: one from among thy brethren shalt thou set king over thee: thou mayest not set a stranger over thee, which is not thy brother.
Interestingly a not so good prophetic utterance is also given concerning a king

De 28:36  The LORD shall bring thee, and thy king which thou shalt set over thee, unto a nation which neither thou nor thy fathers have known; and there shalt thou serve other gods, wood and stone.
 

Edited September 24, 2022 by Anne2

[JohnR7]

6 hours ago, Jedi4Yahweh said:

Does God change his mind?

God does not change, we change and He is waiting on us to change and make the right choices in life. 

9 I call heaven and earth as witnesses against you today that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing. Therefore choose life, so that you and your descendants may live, 20 and that you may love the LORD your God, obey Him, and hold fast to Him. For He is your life, and He will prolong your life in the land that the LORD swore to give to your fathers, to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.”…

We choose life or death, blessing or curse, sickness or health. God does not make that choice for us. WE choose for ourselves and for our family. 

[DPMartin]

13 hours ago, Jedi4Yahweh said:

Does God change his mind?

We often read about how God does not change and that he is not one who can lie (Num 23.19), but, yet there are many examples where it clearly states God changed his mind.

For instance, God told Jonah to go declare his judgement on the people of Nineveh (Syrian Gentile City) because their evil has come before me and tell them in 40 days, I am going destroy their city (Jonah 3).  So, Jonah goes and preaches that in 40 days judgement is coming.  The people of Nineveh decided on their own to fast and repent. God then stated:

And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did [it] not. - Jon 3:10 KJV

Jonah become angry with God for changing his mind because now he looks like a false prophet and wanted to die.  God told Jonah that he should be happy that he changed his mind and spared many thousands of people.
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After Moses went up the Mountain to receive the Commandments.  The people of Israel rebelled and sinned against God and built an Idol (Gold Calf) and worshipped it and called it their god (Ex 32).  God became wrathful and told Moses, I am going to destroy these people and build you a new nation.  Moses pleaded with God to spare Israel and asked God to repent of this evil plan that you have against your people and the scripture state:

And the LORD repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people. - Exo 32:14 KJV
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God sent Isaiah the Prophet to go tell King Hezekiah that he was going to die from his sickness (Isa 38.1).  King Hezekiah wept before the Lord and said, I have walked before you in truth and with a perfect heart and have done what was good in your sight. Scriptures says: 

Go, and say to Hezekiah, Thus saith the LORD, the God of David thy father, I have heard thy prayer, I have seen thy tears: behold, I will add unto thy days fifteen years. - Isa 38:5 KJV
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There are many other examples where God said he was going to do something but later changed his mind.

So, my question is what does it really mean that God does not change???  Can God change is plans about certain future judgment events that he says will happen???
 

 

mercy supersedes righteousness and judgement, those who had relationships with the God of Israel wrote about it, like King David. And it was demonstrated with the mercy seat placed above the place for the law. (ark of the covenant) so, no God doesn’t change. Adam and Eve could have been whipped out from existence after the tree, but God had mercy and let them be in the life of the flesh without the life of a son of God. God even covered them with skins for clothing.

The Almighty’s court requires the request for mercy for those who offended you or you will not be heard.

[NCAP]

11 hours ago, Jedi4Yahweh said:

Of course lineage matters.

It does matter. Jesus was a Jew who said that "we worship what we do know, because salvation is from the Jews." (John 4:22 NASB)

Edited September 24, 2022 by NCAP