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17 minutes ago, com7fy8 said:

"And So, Jesus is in such His high position in order to establish us in love and blessing as His family.  

So Jesus Christ the Lord is now using His power almighty for how He wants us to love and bless each other as His family.

But this does not come only with power of controlling people and changing our behavior and acting. But God's almighty resurrection power in us changes our character so we can love and bless the way God's word means.

His almighty power makes our character strong in the humility and gentleness of Jesus and immunity almighty against sin-sick things like worry and lusts and arguing and complaining and frustration and bitterness. And He makes us peaceful in His "rest for your souls" (in Matthew 11:29) which is so loving and kind to us.

His grace and peace do this in us.

And so, Paul has first ministered this grace and peace, at the beginning of this Epistle >

"Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ." (Ephesians 1:2)

This is so God's grace and peace give us this meaning of His word. 

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"And He put all things under His feet, and gave Him to be head over all things to the church, which is His body, the fullness of Him who fills all in all." (Ephesians 1:22-23)

The church is Jesus Christ's body.

And it looks like Paul is saying we are "the fullness of" Jesus. Now, if we are less in character than Jesus, how could God mean that we are Jesus Christ's "fullness"? I would think someone who is the fullness of Jesus would be fully perfect like He is; but I do not believe this is what God means.

I have an idea, but I invite you and/or someone else to share what you have on this.

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16 hours ago, com7fy8 said:

"And He put all things under His feet, and gave Him to be head over all things to the church, which is His body, the fullness of Him who fills all in all." (Ephesians 1:22-23)

The church is Jesus Christ's body.

And it looks like Paul is saying we are "the fullness of" Jesus. Now, if we are less in character than Jesus, how could God mean that we are Jesus Christ's "fullness"? I would think someone who is the fullness of Jesus would be fully perfect like He is; but I do not believe this is what God means.

I have an idea, but I invite you and/or someone else to share what you have on this.

*In Ephesians 1:22 Paul emphasises that the Heavenly Father has made Jesus Lord over all, in other words the New has come...this is similar to what Jesus said: "all authority has been given unto me, in all things in Heaven and on earth and in things under the Earth"...and or "every knee shall bow down to me and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, in Heaven, on earth and in all things under the Earth". 

*for anyone to understand the above statements with clarity he must understand how everything was before and how is everything with the changes that has taken place...The Heavenly Father gave Jesus everything he had...all his Theotis....think about all the power the Heavenly Father had...all the powers including powers as the power of the wisdom of God, the power of perception, of forseability, anticipation, to know the deep secrets, and the minds sets of others...in a few words the Heavenly Father has bestowed upon Jesus every thing he has in all things, so Jesus can be in control of everything in himself, to be the fullness of God in him self...

This is what Paul said: The Heavenly Father did not give all those things to anyone of the great Angels in Heaven who stand in his presence, even all the Angels he gave them to Jesus and are in obedience to him as they were in obedience to God before, the Heavenly Father gave all things to a Man, the Man Jesus and he gave the Kingdom of God to him to the Man Jesus and equipped him in such way that he can rule and run the Kingdom without needing the counseling of anyone, he made Jesus self sufficient that he does not need to run to the Father like he is lost and he does not know what to do in some situations, no that it can never happen, Jesus is equipped from the Father in such way and with such power that he will always shined above all things and situations without having to run to the Heavenly Father and asked him to tell him what to do. No Jesus will never find himself in that weak situation...or he will never be or is in such weakness, because he is all powerful in all things..

Ephesians 1:22

New American Standard Bible
And He put all things in subjection under His feet, and gave Him as head over all things to the church

Ephesians 1:22

ΠΡΟΣ ΕΦΕΣΙΟΥΣ 1:22 Greek NT: Nestle 1904
καὶ πάντα ὑπέταξεν ὑπὸ τοὺς πόδας αὐτοῦ, καὶ αὐτὸν ἔδωκεν κεφαλὴν ὑπὲρ πάντα τῇ ἐκκλησίᾳ,

Ephesians 1:23

International Standard Version
which is his body, the fullness of the one who fills everything in every way.

American Standard Version
which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.

Young's Literal Translation
which is his body, the fulness of Him who is filling the all in all,

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On 11/2/2022 at 2:29 PM, Your closest friendnt said:

Ephesians 1:22

New American Standard Bible
And He put all things in subjection under His feet, and gave Him as head over all things to the church

Thank you for stopping by and sharing. How about this? >

"But when He says 'all things are put under Him,' it is evident that He who put all things under Him is excepted." (in 1 Corinthians 15:27)

So, from this I see how our Father is not put under Jesus. And we have > 

"the Head of Christ is God", in 1 Corinthians 11:3.

So, even though Jesus is almighty with such ruling power, still He is subject to our Heavenly Father. But my opinion is that this does not make Jesus less than our Father > both are God. And if you have a Head . . . likely you need to have your Head. But this does not mean Jesus is less than our Father, but I understand that They are family with each other; They can do things with one another, not because They are helpless on each One's own, but They love one another and so They desire to share in everything.

  • com7fy8 changed the title to Ephesians chapter one, verse by verse . . .

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On 11/3/2022 at 5:53 PM, com7fy8 said:

Thank you for stopping by and sharing. How about this? >

"But when He says 'all things are put under Him,' it is evident that He who put all things under Him is excepted." (in 1 Corinthians 15:27)

So, from this I see how our Father is not put under Jesus. And we have > 

"the Head of Christ is God", in 1 Corinthians 11:3.

So, even though Jesus is almighty with such ruling power, still He is subject to our Heavenly Father. But my opinion is that this does not make Jesus less than our Father > both are God. And if you have a Head . . . likely you need to have your Head. But this does not mean Jesus is less than our Father, but I understand that They are family with each other; They can do things with one another, not because They are helpless on each One's own, but They love one another and so They desire to share in everything.

We do not need scriptures all the time to understand that the Father who equipped Jesus with everything he had and he gave him also the Holy Spirit. It is understood that he is excluded for being subjected to Jesus....Jesus did not conquer the Father to take the Kingdom from him..the way he conquer Death and Hades and he took their Keys from them...and they lost the authority they had before...

With the Heavenly Father the situation is entirely different. 

It is the Father who honor Jesus for completing his mission all the way to the Cross in full obedience to him and the Heavenly Father sitted Jesus on the Throne and on his right side...when Stephen show this vision he said: that God made Jesus Lord...

There is no enmity between the Heavenly Father and Jesus...

Everything we need God has appointed Jesus for all our needs...God has children because of Jesus Christ...Jesus said that if you abide in me, I and the Father will come and make our above in you. 

We are in the Father, because of Jesus, who is in the Father. Without Jesus Christ we can not be in the Father. 

Without faith in Jesus Christ who died for the forgiveness of our sins. Without his forgiveness, without his righteousness we cannot be in the Heavenly Father..without faith in Jesus Christ who died for the forgiveness of our sins we cannot be born from above, from the Holy Spirit of the Heavenly Father. 

This is what we have to think about, do we go to Jesus who died for the forgiveness of our sins for everything we need...

Jesus has all the powers because the Heavenly Father gave them to him.

Some he earned with his obedience to the Cross and when the Father gave him the Kingdom at the same time he equipped him with everything that he needs.

Jesus is fully equipped, it please the Father to equipped Jesus with everything he has, with everything before even come the situation where he needs anything. 

He is Jesus and he will never stop being Jesus with all these Godly powers upon him, all the powers of the Heavenly Father upon him, he is still Jesus..

Jesus the God Almighty. 

Only Jesus because of his humanity can be the Mediator between man and God...because he also came from God..from above...

No one else can meet those requirements and he is the one who died on the Cross for the forgiveness of our sins, the sins for the whole world, to included everyone in the world...

Jesus is reigning and he will reign without an end..he will reign forever and ever without end.

His Kingdom is without end this is why we are forever with him secured for all eternity.  

 

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