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This seems like a pretty solid study on the two witnesses, what they really are.

Assuming the witnesses are really the church, I wondered why the church would use such aggressive tactics as plagues, since we are supposed to be all about love? This is the only 'hole' I have seen so far and maybe it isn't really a hole.

I do agree these things are not literal. No we don't have fire breathing prophets IMO.

 

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40 minutes ago, Starise said:

This seems like a pretty solid study on the two witnesses, what they really are.

Assuming the witnesses are really the church, I wondered why the church would use such aggressive tactics as plagues, since we are supposed to be all about love? This is the only 'hole' I have seen so far and maybe it isn't really a hole.

I do agree these things are not literal. No we don't have fire breathing prophets IMO.

 

God will use alot of aggressive tactics during the 7 year tribulation. It is the wrath and judgment of God on this sinful and evil world.  Do you take any of the book of Revelation literally? We are to take as much as possible literal that is not figure of speech. Also, we are not to spiritualize Scripture by assigning meanings to words or phrases when it is clear the author, under the guidance of the Holy Spirit, meant it to be understood as it is written. The two witnesses are two literal characters in the book of Revelation. I don't know about this movie and how accurate it is for the Christian world. 

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Anyone is more than welcome to disagree with this.

I feel he has a compelling argument.

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I think the witness are two men who are prophet's. Moses and Aaron were two prophet's sent to pharaoh. They did signs too. I think the two witnesses will be like them. 

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On 11/13/2022 at 8:42 PM, Starise said:

Anyone is more than welcome to disagree with this.

I feel he has a compelling argument.

I’m not sure, but it may be that there will be the Two Witnesses and the two types of churches, the ones that Jesus approved of —Smyrna and Philadelphia—who taught the Truth.  After all, it will be the Elect who will be delivered up:

“And I will give power to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy one thousand two hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackcloth." These are the two olive trees and the two lampstands standing before the God of the earth.

- Revelation 11:3-4

But when they arrest you and deliver you up, do not worry beforehand, or premeditate what you will speak. But whatever is given you in that hour, speak that; for it is not you who speak, but the Holy Spirit.

- Mark 13:11 

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Interesting take on this @Selah7.

I thought he was convincing in showing the association of trees, specifically olive trees as God's people. In his description, he also mentions the grafting, yet another tree related thought, and so according to this, the trees are those both the Jews and the grafted. I don't think there is any question the lampstands are churches. In this case though, instead of viewing the gentiles as a branch, they have become an accompanying tree. Do you have any thoughts on that?

Possibly the two witnesses are representatives of these entities if they are individuals. For me, the language is so very symbolic in terms of what they do ( expelling fire from their mouths) I tend to think of fire the way fire is seen in a spiritual sense. Remember the tongues of fire that rested on the heads of the belivers who were filled with the spirit to speak in other languages? Remember the fire that was involved when Ezekiel took a coal into his mouth?

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21 minutes ago, Starise said:

Interesting take on this @Selah7.

I thought he was convincing in showing the association of trees, specifically olive trees as God's people. In his description, he also mentions the grafting, yet another tree related thought, and so according to this, the trees are those both the Jews and the grafted. I don't think there is any question the lampstands are churches. In this case though, instead of viewing the gentiles as a branch, they have become an accompanying tree. Do you have any thoughts on that?

Possibly the two witnesses are representatives of these entities if they are individuals. For me, the language is so very symbolic in terms of what they do ( expelling fire from their mouths) I tend to think of fire the way fire is seen in a spiritual sense. Remember the tongues of fire that rested on the heads of the belivers who were filled with the spirit to speak in other languages? Remember the fire that was involved when Ezekiel took a coal into his mouth?

Yes, it seems that trees are used throughout the Bible to symbolize people.  I’m wondering also if these two olive trees could represent the two houses of Israel (including “spiritual” Israel).  Regardless, these two witnesses will be clothed in sackcloth, witnessing and warning people in this very close-to-the-end of the latter days.  

I’m remembering that …

Hebrews 12:29 "For our God is a consuming fire."

My thought on this is that this consuming fire is the presence of God’s glory, the Holy Spirit.  

How awesome!

 

 

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Yes! 

I had forgotten about that Hebrews passage.

This also reminds me of the passage that deals with not knowing what to say if we happen to be one of those here when we are taken before some of these world leaders. The HOLY SPIRIT will speak through us.

The Holy Spirit is very active during these times!

 

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On 11/27/2022 at 8:44 AM, Starise said:

Yes! 

I had forgotten about that Hebrews passage.

This also reminds me of the passage that deals with not knowing what to say if we happen to be one of those here when we are taken before some of these world leaders. The HOLY SPIRIT will speak through us.

The Holy Spirit is very active during these times!

 

Yes, and this, I believe, is how the Gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world!  The Holy Spirit will be heard in every corner of the earth! 

"And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.

- Matthew 24:14

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