other one Posted November 16, 2022 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,265 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,993 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted November 16, 2022 3 hours ago, OneLight said: That's what you get when a narcissist is in office. Their personality overshadows their achievements. If he ever became humble, he could go much further then people ever thought. Jimmy Carter was humble, and was a very nice person and dedicated Christian.....  he was also about the worst president we've ever had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not of the World Posted November 16, 2022 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 86 Topics Per Day: 0.15 Content Count: 1,060 Content Per Day: 1.81 Reputation: 456 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/12/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted November 16, 2022 (edited) 25 minutes ago, other one said: Jimmy Carter was humble, and was a very nice person and dedicated Christian.....  he was also about the worst president we've ever had. Biden makes Carter look like Abraham Lincoln.  Edited November 16, 2022 by Not of the World 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted November 17, 2022 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.87 Content Count: 43,799 Content Per Day: 6.19 Reputation: 11,244 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted November 17, 2022 5 hours ago, Vine Abider said: I'm very much in the same "boat" as you with regards to Trump. Some I know, including my dad, are all in with Trump no matter what it seems. My wife and some others close to us have had enough. I voted for him the first time because he was an outsider, and I was fed up with corrupted, inside-the-beltway-politics. The 2nd time, like you, I held my nose and voted for him to keep Biden out. But now, there's others that can do much the same thing, who have a much better presence and don't automatically alienate large segments of the population each time they open their mouths. A close circle of people I know feel the same way. Time to move on . . . Being in Arizona, we had Kari Lake pop up on the radar as a conservative. She is much better spoken than Trump, and may even know many of the issues better than most, since she was a local TV anchor for many years. And she jumped on the Trump band wagon and went full tilt on the whole election denying thing. However, much of what she was doing seemed contrived, that is, using the Trump affiliation to get elected. But most Arizonians couldn't stomach all that, and voted in a Democrat governor (personally, I did a write in candidate). Hi fellow arizonan. I voted for lake but personally I am not sure she was sincere in being a republican since she was only recently a democrat. But I really couldnt stand hobbs. I am shocked kelly won, since he has done nothing for this state. I am shocked fontes won considering how badly he has messed up elections. I am appalled at how the voting turned out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not of the World Posted November 17, 2022 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 86 Topics Per Day: 0.15 Content Count: 1,060 Content Per Day: 1.81 Reputation: 456 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/12/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted November 17, 2022 20 minutes ago, ayin jade said: Hi fellow arizonan. I voted for lake but personally I am not sure she was sincere in being a republican since she was only recently a democrat. But I really couldnt stand hobbs. I am shocked kelly won, since he has done nothing for this state. I am shocked fontes won considering how badly he has messed up elections. I am appalled at how the voting turned out. Massive ballot harvesting is what "won" the election for the Democrats. It's corrupt.  1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted November 17, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.21 Reputation: 9,763 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted November 17, 2022 2 hours ago, other one said: Jimmy Carter was humble, and was a very nice person and dedicated Christian.....  he was also about the worst president we've ever had. If we were talking in general terms, I could see how your words would carry weight with my statement, but I was addressing Trump and only him at the time. Carter and Trump could not be further apart with their personalities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not of the World Posted November 17, 2022 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 86 Topics Per Day: 0.15 Content Count: 1,060 Content Per Day: 1.81 Reputation: 456 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/12/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted November 17, 2022 A lot of negative adjectives can be used to describe Trump's temperament, but his policies were, for the most part, very good for the American people, particularly poor and middle-class Americans.  Unemployment for minority Americans was NEVER lower than it was under Trump, at least until the pandemic hit our shores.  The policies of Trump's successor has DECIMATED the standard of living of the aforementioned Americans. Trillions of dollars in wealth are GONE. Inflation is horrific and probably getting worse. We had two straight quarters of negative GDP. The current administration has been a DISASTER for the American people.  Trump's mouth was/is bad but his policies are FAR better for average Americans than the current bunch.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted November 17, 2022 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,265 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,993 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted November 17, 2022 15 minutes ago, OneLight said: If we were talking in general terms, I could see how your words would carry weight with my statement, but I was addressing Trump and only him at the time. Carter and Trump could not be further apart with their personalities. I think that was my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vine Abider Posted November 17, 2022 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 6 Topic Count: 207 Topics Per Day: 0.36 Content Count: 3,506 Content Per Day: 6.14 Reputation: 2,354 Days Won: 3 Joined: 10/25/2022 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/01/2024 Share Posted November 17, 2022 2 hours ago, ayin jade said: Hi fellow arizonan. I voted for lake but personally I am not sure she was sincere in being a republican since she was only recently a democrat. But I really couldnt stand hobbs. I am shocked kelly won, since he has done nothing for this state. I am shocked fontes won considering how badly he has messed up elections. I am appalled at how the voting turned out. Hi! Well, part of it was people thinking that candidates were just hitching their wagon to Trump to win, and part of it is the influx of voters from California and other places. In the end, however, I'm trusting the Lord's purpose will prevail . . . And hopefully now this thread can get back on track from that little "diversion" it took over the last few hours! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not of the World Posted November 17, 2022 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 86 Topics Per Day: 0.15 Content Count: 1,060 Content Per Day: 1.81 Reputation: 456 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/12/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted November 17, 2022 36 minutes ago, Vine Abider said: Hi! Well, part of it was people thinking that candidates were just hitching their wagon to Trump to win, and part of it is the influx of voters from California and other places. The Democrats apparently went out and collected massive numbers of mail-in ballots, which were just barely enough. How many independents and Republicans didn't bother to vote? How many of them will be despairing over run-away inflation after choosing not to vote?  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddyv Posted November 17, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 4,265 Content Per Day: 2.89 Reputation: 2,302 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/03/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted November 17, 2022 27 minutes ago, Not of the World said: The Democrats apparently went out and collected massive numbers of mail-in ballots, which were just barely enough. How many independents and Republicans didn't bother to vote? How many of them will be despairing over run-away inflation after choosing not to vote?  Source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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