WorthyNews:Biden Says He Wants Congress To Pass Gun Control In Lame-Duck Session

[The_Patriot21]

1 hour ago, JimmyB said:

Goodbye.  I will not miss you.  I hope that you don't get arrested for killing someone.

Lol me to. Of course if it were to happen it would only happen in self defense, which means as soon as the cops get it all sorted out, they will of course let me go, but personally I would rather not be in that position in the first place. But, we live in a fallen world so it is possible. But, we are in agreement in that neither of us want me arrested.

In the mean time I am going to continue to enjoy my shooting sports. In fact, I am taking my AR chambered in 300 blackout out coyote hunting with my father in law after church today. With any luck when I get back I'll be a few rounds short on ammo and the great state of Colorado will be short a few mangy coyotes.

And of course, seeing as we always practice proper gun safety, and the chances of running into a gun toting criminal in a farmers field is pretty slim, there's about a 99.99% chance that we will of course return without shooting anyone. 

That .01% chance is the off chance the Russians invade. Darn them Russians.

So have a good day and God bless.

[JimmyB]

18 minutes ago, The_Patriot21 said:

Lol me to. Of course if it were to happen it would only happen in self defense, which means as soon as the cops get it all sorted out, they will of course let me go, but personally I would rather not be in that position in the first place. But, we live in a fallen world so it is possible. But, we are in agreement in that neither of us want me arrested.

In the mean time I am going to continue to enjoy my shooting sports. In fact, I am taking my AR chambered in 300 blackout out coyote hunting with my father in law after church today. With any luck when I get back I'll be a few rounds short on ammo and the great state of Colorado will be short a few mangy coyotes.

And of course, seeing as we always practice proper gun safety, and the chances of running into a gun toting criminal in a farmers field is pretty slim, there's about a 99.99% chance that we will of course return without shooting anyone. 

That .01% chance is the off chance the Russians invade. Darn them Russians.

So have a good day and God bless.

When I was an active gun person I actually preferred shooting my black powder rifles. My favorites were a .32 caliber Kentucky flintlock and a .50 caliber Hawken.  They are, of course, less precise than modern rifles, but they are more fun to shoot.

I also enjoyed shooting my various CO2 pellet pistols in my back yard.

 

Now, because of my advanced age and fading eyesight I no longer shoot.  Enjoy it while you can!

The main coyotes around our place are a pain!  Too much noise and commotion almost nightly.

You also have a good day and God bless.

Edited November 27, 2022 by JimmyB

[The_Patriot21]

19 minutes ago, JimmyB said:

When I was an active gun person I actually preferred shooting my black powder rifles. My favorites were a .32 caliber Kentucky flintlock and a .50 caliber Hawken.  They are, of course, less precise than modern rifles, but they are more fun to shoot.

I also enjoyed shooting my various CO2 pellet pistols in my back yard.

 

Now, because of my advanced age and fading eyesight I no longer shoot.  Enjoy it while you can!

The main coyotes around our place are a pain!  Too much noise and commotion almost nightly.

You also have a good day and God bless.

I do actually shoot black powder as well. I have a 54 caliber deer stalker, but my favorite is a colt walker revolver. Ok, it's not an actual walker it's a replica but it's still fun to shoot. It fires a .44 cal. Ball using a 60 grain powder charge. 

[Jayne]

18 hours ago, Slibhin said:

If only people would use guns for their non-violent purpose! 

Lol

Of course, guns are violent, Slibhin.  That's the whole point of a piece of lead flying out the end of one and hitting a target.

And no need to explain your husband's beliefs about gun owners.  Most of us are decades older than you.  That doesn't mean we don't comprehend what you and he believed when he was living.  It was crystal clear.

There is a difference between violence that is murder - and leads to prison - and violence that defends a home, community, or nation, and the killing of nuisance animals and animals that humans consume.

The wildlife and fisheries company WILL allow you to shoot coyotes, bobcats, and even a wolf- but that's very, very rare - that is harming your pets or livestock or hens.  Coyotes will come to your carport and around your house and take your pet and even your small child. You have to contact the wildlife and fisheries when you do so and they have to come and inspect the situation and take the carcass.

A friend of mine had a rabid coyote in her yard, and it had killed some of her animals.  She had no choice but to shoot it and kill it.   People around here shoot and eat deer, ducks, rabbits, and more.  There are laws confining each hunter to the number of animals they can kill each season and how many female deer can be killed.

I'm sorry that people don't understand guns nor gun-owners.  I'm sorry that the left and the rest of the world thinks we are idiots and knuckle-dragging morons.

I will never understand that.

 

 

 

[The_Patriot21]

11 minutes ago, Slibhin said:

1. If you are shooting an animal to death that is also violence. Trying to change the definition of the word doesn't mean you are now correct. From the dictionary:

vi·o·lence

noun

Behavior involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something.

2. I do not mean Libertarian as in belonging to a political party with that name. Seriously?

3. I called your statement arrogant because you basically stated you think everyone who is against guns is mindlessly following what they see on TV. Strange that people never consider that maybe they are the ones uninformed or mindlessly following the TV or some for of media.

4. I don't look down on you and I don't care if you own guns, but you act as if I went on some anti-gun diatribe when all I merely stated guns are inherently violent. Maybe you're just eager to argue with someone over your boom sticks that, lacking anyone here who is actually anti-gun you decided my mild comment was close enough to get the ball rolling.

Do you compute now or is this one of those things that I shouldn't waste my time clarifying? I don't care about your guns. I really don't.

Then I guess we have differing definitions of violence, because last I checked and according to most people hunting is in itself non violent.

Of course, since I'm not a pacifist as pacifism isn't a Biblical belief system, I'm also not against the proper uses of violence.

And no I didn't say everyone who believes guns are evil does so because of the media, I said a lot do because the media lies. You of course chose to read it the way that fit your narrative.

You said libertarian. In America that is a political belief system. So perhaps you should keep that in mind before you let loose such a statement in the future.

You own a smith and Wesson and choose to attack me for my views....there's a word for that but I won't use it.

And of course if your husband has those views, he certainly didn't get them from any expert. If you are, as you claim a gun owner, then you should obviously know that. Fact is an expert would never see the need to use wordage like that. Ever.

Because guns are not violent. Nor are they non violent. They are simply tools. What they are used for is entirely dependent on the user. When your Smith and Wesson jumps out of your gun cabinet and shoot someone all by itself, you can call it violent. Until then, you cannot. That's a irrefutable fact. Any expert that says otherwise, isn't fit to be called an expert.

[The_Patriot21]

31 minutes ago, Slibhin said:

Maybe, given you apparently look forward to shooting animals for fun, you are just an inherently violent and mean minded person. If that's the case then I can see why you're eager to create an alternative definition of violence.

Since you continue to dishonestly attack something I didn't say, (because of your clear obsession with the US gun control issue), I don't see any point in going on. This in addition to the implication I might be lying, which I find incredibly offensive.

Seeing as the only person here who has repeatedly attacked anyone is you, while choosing to become offended at anything that you disagree with, then I agree, perhaps it is indeed time for you to leave the conversation as your obviously to worked up about it to converse in a professional manner.

[Sparks]

4 hours ago, Slibhin said:

Don't ever point a gun at something you don't intend to kill. That's the first thing they teach you when they train you to use guns, like when I got my rifle in 2019. 

It might be a good primer, but if you are forced to draw to protect your life and the crook turns and runs, you are not obligated to blow them away because of this saying.

[Not of the World]

A sheriff in the next county once said "A gun in the hand is better than a cop on the phone".  

Guns are not the issue in America nor anyone else.  The lack of following Jesus IS the issue with not only guns, but with every foul deed in the world.  

[Not of the World]

49 minutes ago, Sparks said:

It might be a good primer, but if you are forced to draw to protect your life and the crook turns and runs, you are not obligated to blow them away because of this saying.

It depends on what he did.  I wouldn't shoot him if he was fleeing with a package left on my porch.  But if he was fleeing after breaking into my daughter's room at night, shooting him in the back while fleeing would be justifiable and good.  

[Not of the World]

2 minutes ago, Slibhin said:

Most western countries have strict laws about this. Shooting a fleeing person in the back would most certainly result in murder or manslaughter charges. You have to be in danger to life or limb to justify lethal force.

I would shoot a fleeing child-rapist in the back without hesitation.  No jury in the world would convict someone for doing such a thing.