TODAY!!! if you will hear His Voice...

[Mr. M]

The Voice of the Spirit speaks to our heart. 

Inner discipline in silence cultivates the ability to "hear";

Ezekiel 3:10 Moreover He said to me: 

Son of man, receive into your heart all My words that I speak to you, 

and hear with your ears.

 

and only then employ reasoning and logic to the proper application.

Ephesians 4:23 And be renewed in the spirit of your mind.

Proverbs 4:7 Get Wisdom First, Then receive an understanding. 

 

This is what it means to be "born from above".

James 3:17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, 

willing to yield, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy. 

[Waggles]

3 hours ago, Mr. M said:

This is what it means to be "born from above".

That is unscriptural and wrong doctrine.

This is what it means to be born from above

John 3:1  Now there was a man of the Pharisees, Nicodemus his name, a ruler of the Jews: 
2  the same came unto him by night, and said to him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God; for no one can do these signs which thou doest, except God be with him. 
3  Jesus answered and said to him, Amen, Amen, I say unto thee, Except one be born from above, he cannot see the kingdom of *God. 
4  Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born being an old man? can he enter a second time into the womb of his mother, and be born? 
5  Jesus answered, Amen, Amen, I say unto thee, Except one be born of water and Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 
6  What is born of the flesh is flesh; and what is born of the Spirit is spirit. 
7  Marvel not that I said to thee, Ye must be born from above. 
8  The Spirit breatheth where he willeth, and thou hearest his voice, but knowest not whence he cometh, and whither he goeth: so is everyone born of the Spirit.

And the word of God [Jesus] confirms his own teaching on this

Acts 2:38  And Peter said unto them, Repent and be baptized each of you in the name of Jesus Christ unto remission of your sins; and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Acts 10:44  While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Spirit fell on all that heard the word. 
45  And they of the circumcision that believed were amazed, who came with Peter, because that on the nations also was poured out the gift of the Holy Spirit. 
46  For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter, 
47  Can anyone forbid the water, that these should not be baptized, who have received the Holy Spirit as well as we?

Acts 19:4  And Paul said, John baptized a baptism of repentance, saying to the people that they should believe unto him that should come after him, that is, unto Jesus. 
5  And when they heard this, they were baptized into the name of the Lord Jesus. 
6  And when Paul had laid hands upon them, the Holy Spirit came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.

Gal 1:8  But though we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel other than what we preached to you, let him be anathema.

Edited December 24, 2022 by Waggles

[Mr. M]

15 minutes ago, Waggles said:

That is unscriptural and wrong doctrine.

This is what it means to be born from above

You must be born from above to receive wisdom from above.

If you say you are born from above, but not hearing His Voice, then what is scriptural?

The point of the OP is not, "what must I do to be born again".

It is "what must I do now that I am born again"?

Answer: "Hear My Voice". 

I am sure that is what the OP expressed, but I am also happy to clarify. I hope you can 

grasp the difference. Praise God for His unspeakable gift.

[Waggles]

1 hour ago, Mr. M said:

It is "what must I do now that I am born again"?

Galatians 5:16  But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. 
17  For the desires of the flesh are against the Spirit, and the desires of the Spirit are against the flesh, for these are opposed to each other, to keep you from doing the things you want to do. 
22  But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 
23  gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law. 
24  And those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. 
25  If we live by the Spirit, let us also keep in step with the Spirit.

Romans 8:12  So then, brothers, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live according to the flesh. 
13  For if you live according to the flesh you will die, but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live. 
14  For all who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God. 

[Waggles]

1 hour ago, Mr. M said:

If you say you are born from above, but not hearing His Voice, then what is scriptural?

Depends in what you mean by hearing his voice ? 

God told me ... ... 

There are two witnesses to God and the gospel of salvation - his written word and his Spirit.

John 14:25  These things have I spoken to you, while abiding with you. 
26  But the Comforter, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, HE shall teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you. 
27  I leave you peace; my peace I give to you: not as the world giveth, give I to you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither be it fearful.

[Ocean]

On 12/24/2022 at 4:09 PM, Mr. M said:

I am sure that is what the OP expressed, but I am also happy to clarify. I hope you can 

grasp the difference. Praise God for His unspeakable gift.

 

That IS what was expressed in your op.  Too many people seem to think the way to 'hear' God or from God, means you needs some ultra spiritual experience that gives you goosebumps for 2 weeks.

[TheBlade]

Born from above(born again) I love to say it that way. In James 3:17 was not talking about salvation. Read what He said before "For where envy and self-seeking exist, confusion and every evil thing are there." Then "But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, willing to yield, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy"

What must I do to be born from above? Believe on the lord Jesus Christ that He was who He said He was that He came in the flesh died on the Cross for the worlds sin was buried rose the 3rd day and is the only way to the Father

[Waggles]

36 minutes ago, TheBlade said:

at must I do to be born from above? Believe on the lord Jesus Christ that He was who He said He was that He came in the flesh died on the Cross for the worlds sin was buried rose the 3rd day and is the only way to the Father

Millions of "believers" do this but are not born from above - are not born of water and Spirit.

Read Acts for what must I do? 

[TheBlade]

22 hours ago, Waggles said:

Millions of "believers" do this but are not born from above - are not born of water and Spirit.

Read Acts for what must I do? 

Hi not here to debate about salvation (nor do I think you are :)) The only way someone comes to God/Christ is He draws them. John 3:16-17 Rom 10:9-10 is easy there is no 'if" or "but". There was no NT then. All they had was what they heard or someone heard Jesus say. OT NT if anyone calls on the name of the lord shall be saved. Some today have thousands of gods and one can look out over this world from the dawn to the sunset and say "I want that God that made this I want to know Him". When they die they will be with Him. Like Christ said if you were blind you would have no sin you say you see your sin remains. 

https://worthychristianforums-h45go6maxh5rpepgu.netdna-ssl.com/uploads/emoticons/default_smile.png now Acts.. lets get to the meat. Everything in Acts is what Christianity is. Everything they did is what should be happening today. Does yet not where doubt is. 

[Waggles]

John 3:3  Jesus answered and said to him, Amen, Amen, I say unto thee, Except one be born from above, he cannot see the kingdom of God. 
3:4  Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born being an old man? can he enter a second time into the womb of his mother, and be born? 
3:5  Jesus answered, Amen, Amen, I say unto thee, Except one be born of water and Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 
3:6  What is born of the flesh is flesh; and what is born of the Spirit is spirit. 
3:7  Marvel not that I said to thee, Ye must be born from above. 
3:8  The Spirit breatheth where he willeth, and thou hearest his voice, but knowest not whence he cometh, and whither he goeth: so is everyone born of the Spirit.

Jesus makes the rules not everybody else.

Thou hearest his voice = praying in tongues.

Acts 19:6  And when Paul had laid hands upon them, the Holy Spirit came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.

Romans 10:9-10 is not the gospel of salvation - it is a call to believe the gospel as preached by the apostles which is John 3 above and the fulfillment of John 3 -

Acts 2:37  Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and the rest of the apostles, [Men] Brethren, what shall we do? 
38  And Peter said unto them, Repent and be baptized each of you in the name of Jesus Christ unto remission of your sins; and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. [as in Acts 2:4]
39  For to you is the promise, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, as many as the Lord our God shall call unto him. 
40  And with many other words he testified, and exhorted them, saying, Be saved from this crooked generation. 
41  They then that received his word were baptized: and in that day were added about three thousand souls. 

Edited January 10, 2023 by Waggles