Man was in Pangaea

[BeyondET]

1 hour ago, dad2 said:

I see no problem with it at all. God was disgusted with the filth and murder and desperate wickedness and regretted creating man. Can you blame Him? But He had a plan. He knew He would have to come to earth and suffer horribly and be killed one day for us. Basically man was so bad even God had to shake His head. It was not the kind of regret that meant He was going to change His plan of salvation for man. Probably it was more like a clear realization that fallen man when allowed to ferment in sin too long was simply unacceptable. That is what the last days are like also as you know. What we see today more and more is simply unacceptable and He will step in with the Rapture and Tribulation.

I think it was more referring to the image and likeness, God being all knowing with a plan confident in Noah to the sorrow and forgiveness 

[dad2]

9 minutes ago, BeyondET said:

I think it was more referring to the image and likeness, God being all knowing with a plan confident in Noah to the sorrow and forgiveness 

Not sure what that means. I assume you mean that man was supposed to be in God's image but had gotten more like the spittin image of Satan. But that God had a plan using Noah.

Anyhow here is the meaning of the word translated as repented.

Brown-Driver-Briggs'

1) to be sorry, console oneself, repent, regret, comfort, be comforted

1a) (Niphal)

1a1) to be sorry, be moved to pity, have compassion

1a2) to be sorry, rue, suffer grief, repent

1a3) to comfort oneself, be comforted

1a4) to comfort oneself, ease oneself

1b) (Piel) to comfort, console

1c) (Pual) to be comforted, be consoled

1d) (Hithpael)

1d1) to be sorry, have compassion

 

Looking at the meanings here, the word repent does not have the same meaning usually thought of today. To be sorry and have compassion and comfort oneself and have some grief is not the same as wishing He never created us!

 

[BeyondET]

39 minutes ago, dad2 said:

Not sure what that means. I assume you mean that man was supposed to be in God's image but had gotten more like the spittin image of Satan. But that God had a plan using Noah.

Anyhow here is the meaning of the word translated as repented.

Brown-Driver-Briggs'

1) to be sorry, console oneself, repent, regret, comfort, be comforted

1a) (Niphal)

1a1) to be sorry, be moved to pity, have compassion

1a2) to be sorry, rue, suffer grief, repent

1a3) to comfort oneself, be comforted

1a4) to comfort oneself, ease oneself

1b) (Piel) to comfort, console

1c) (Pual) to be comforted, be consoled

1d) (Hithpael)

1d1) to be sorry, have compassion

 

Looking at the meanings here, the word repent does not have the same meaning usually thought of today. To be sorry and have compassion and comfort oneself and have some grief is not the same as wishing He never created us!

 

Well man was created in the image and likeness of God, the supposed part i think is more about responsibility that humanity failed at.

Regret doesn't necessarily mean God wished He didn't create man. the phrase is used a few times, once about king Saul. 

Edited February 11, 2023 by BeyondET

[dad2]

34 minutes ago, BeyondET said:

Well man was created in the image and likeness of God, the supposed part i think is more about responsibility that humanity failed at.

Regret doesn't necessarily mean God wished He didn't create man. the phrase is used a few times, once about king Saul. 

Right. As long as people don't try to use the verse to wave away the reality of Genesis and the flood by suggesting that they think neither are literal. I think God is just as disgusted with the world today.

[BeyondET]

51 minutes ago, dad2 said:

Right. As long as people don't try to use the verse to wave away the reality of Genesis and the flood by suggesting that they think neither are literal. I think God is just as disgusted with the world today.

Probably regrets a world that doesn't believe in bible stories rather they are literal or not.

If one person believes God took 6 days of presto universe or 14 billion years evolving to create. I would assume is far better than not believing in a Creator at all.

I myself probably the only one who totally believes Genesis days are to be read as such 1,2,4,3,5,6, 7. If God is disappointed with me because I know plants need sunlight to survive and the current order isnt logical, guess that's the reach of faith I'll take.

Edited February 11, 2023 by BeyondET

[dad2]

7 hours ago, BeyondET said:

Probably regrets a world that doesn't believe in bible stories rather they are literal or not.

If one person believes God took 6 days of presto universe or 14 billion years evolving to create. I would assume is far better than not believing in a Creator at all.

I myself probably the only one who totally believes Genesis days are to be read as such 1,2,4,3,5,6, 7. If God is disappointed with me because I know plants need sunlight to survive and the current order isnt logical, guess that's the reach of faith I'll take.

I think Genesis is a record of beginnings. He that comes to God needs to know who He is. He is the creator of heaven and earth that sent the flood, confused tongues, scattered people, made the first woman from the first man etc. To call those stories rather than the record is to not know or believe God.

[BeyondET]

2 hours ago, dad2 said:

I think Genesis is a record of beginnings. He that comes to God needs to know who He is. He is the creator of heaven and earth that sent the flood, confused tongues, scattered people, made the first woman from the first man etc. To call those stories rather than the record is to not know or believe God.

Ol saying devil in the details.

Edited February 11, 2023 by BeyondET

[George]

On 2/10/2023 at 4:03 PM, The Barbarian said:

Since the Bible does not say it was worldwide, one would have to add that to scripture.  

Gen 7:19  And the waters prevailed so mightily on the earth that all the high mountains under the whole heaven were covered. 

Gen 7:20  The waters prevailed above the mountains, covering them fifteen cubits deep. 

I'm not sure how you can't read the Universality of the flood.  The Scriptures say it was 15 feet above the high mountains.

Considering the number of flood stories that came from multiple civilizations, it's more than enough evidence, in my humble opinion of the universality of the flood.  This is an interesting article about the tribes of North America having flood legends.

https://answersingenesis.org/the-flood/flood-legends/flood-legends-americas-part-1/

 

[The Barbarian]

Just now, George said:

Since the Bible does not say it was worldwide, one would have to add that to scripture.  

The key is that it says "erets" (land), not "tebel" (the whole earth).   So the text itself says that it's not a world-wide flood.

1 minute ago, George said:

Considering the number of flood stories that came from multiple civilizations, it's more than enough evidence, in my humble opinion of the universality of the flood.

The near-universiality of floods, yes.   Most incipient civilizations began in river valleys, so it's not surprising that most human cultures have records of floods. That's what happens in river valleys.

 

[The Barbarian]

On 2/11/2023 at 3:52 AM, BeyondET said:

If one person believes God took 6 days of presto universe or 14 billion years evolving to create. I would assume is far better than not believing in a Creator at all.

You're right.  People who focus on whether or not the flood was a literal one, have completely lost sight of what God is saying to us.   There is no single orthodox understanding of the flood story. 

If you want to believe it literally happened, you are no less a Christian than someone who does not believe it was a literal event.