Man was in Pangaea

[The Barbarian]

You just invented a fishbowl with no evidence whatever for it.   And not surprisingly, the parallax works out there just the way it works here.   

Why not stop trying to put words in God's mouth, and just accept His creation as it is?

9 hours ago, dad2 said:

You never apologized and admitted you were not telling the truth about the distance of the Voyagers.

How far did I say it was?    You and I both know it's outside the solar system, even if you won't admit it.    If all you have left is "they are all lying!" you're finished.

 

[RdJ]

6 hours ago, dad2 said:

The firmament actually is where the stars were put. Any interpretation of that being some sort of solid material is not sound.

As for your verse in Job, that was from Elihu - Not God! In fact God made it clear the guy was without wisdom and wrong.

Any wise person looking at comets and meteors and stars and the moon etc would know the movements had no connection to some metal nonsense.

As for the six day creation that was no problem at all for God. And you would be honest and wise to admit that science has nothing to say about it.

I believe that. Was just wondering, but if you Google it you get craziness like a literal dome on a flat earth, operation fish bowl, so I stopped looking into it.

[BeyondET]

9 hours ago, dad2 said:

So you now want to allude to other posters being possessed when your arguments fail. Not honest or courageous or interesting.

 To be clear then, on the issue of creation as per Genesis, do you believe it or not? From your words so far, it seems you have tried to cast doubt on a literal creation by God of all things. Be clear.

Other posters being possessed?, you got quite the imagination and a habit about making up stuff.

courageous what huh? You are very flamboyant and make no sense. But then again you like being rude and calling other people lurkers that might be reading threads and stuff like that.

Be honest and post my words from this thread that I'm casting doubt about God being the creator of all things??. Be clear.

Edited May 20, 2024 by BeyondET

[dad2]

7 hours ago, RdJ said:

My christian geography teacher said that in high school, that there might have been a rakea before the flood, from hard water, because it never rained and they got very old, different atmosphere and then it was broken when the fountains of the great deep were opened.  I know that any creationist now says it's nonsense and you may not say it, but you can't just skip that text.

There may have been lots of floods before the great flood. There was also possibly lots of conduits to the water deep below that came up as mist (and later erupted as fountains of the deep) There was seas and lots of water before the great flood. Interpreting that as some sort of single event that wiped out some imaginary pre Adam race is foolish though, of course.

[dad2]

3 hours ago, The Barbarian said:

You just invented a fishbowl with no evidence whatever for it.   And not surprisingly, the parallax works out there just the way it works here.   

Why not stop trying to put words in God's mouth, and just accept His creation as it is?

How far did I say it was?    You and I both know it's outside the solar system, even if you won't admit it.    If all you have left is "they are all lying!" you're finished.

 

You claimed that it was completely false that the Voyager probes were less than a single light day away. Now you obfuscate and try to cover it up rather than being honest that you were wildly and comically wrong.

[BeyondET]

10 hours ago, dad2 said:

Since you say nothing and are evasive, for the lurkers I will say this.

"

Because no other measurement involving time had been as precise, the effect of the change was less than the experimental uncertainty of all existing measurements.

While the second is the only base unit to be explicitly defined in terms of the caesium standard, the majority of SI units have definitions that mention either the second, or other units defined using the second"

-wiki

 

In other words the time involved is what matters here. Using cesium atoms to mark precise time here has nothing to do with what time is like out in the universe.

While the second is the only base unit to be explicitly defined in terms of the cesium standard is more of you injecting nonsense. Wiki didn't say any of that garbage.

[dad2]

2 hours ago, RdJ said:

I believe that. Was just wondering, but if you Google it you get craziness like a literal dome on a flat earth, operation fish bowl, so I stopped looking into it.

It has always been the business of Satan, demons, and those who believe them to try and make God's word look silly. Those who know Him, know better

[dad2]

1 hour ago, BeyondET said:

 

courageous what huh? You are very flamboyant and make no sense. But then again you like being rude and calling other people lurkers that might be reading threads and stuff like that.

Be honest and post my words from this thread that I'm casting doubt about God being the creator of all things??. Be clear.

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Other posters being possessed?, you got quite the imagination and a habit about making up stuff.

When you said 'how many are you' it seemed like some vague reference to Legion. However if you claim to have had some actual point in there, be clear.

As for the term 'lurkers' that is a common and widespread term on the forums used for people who read posts but usually do not post themselves. Pretending that was some insult is impish

So, I thought your general thrust was to defend deep stellar time (and therefore opposes Genesis) Be clear if you actually are struggling to say something else. You offered a few sciencey sounding words like cesium atom. Also how the sun exists where it is. You forgot to try to form that into some cohesive point. How does saying those words relate to time in the far universe?

[dad2]

8 minutes ago, BeyondET said:

While the second is the only base unit to be explicitly defined in terms of the cesium standard is more of you injecting nonsense. Wiki didn't say any of that garbage.

What about the cesium standard?? In what way do you claim it relates to how long light takes to move in the universe? As for the quote I posted, of course that was from wiki. It brought out how time being measured in a precise way and used as a standard measure was involved. So what? What other aspect of the atom are you trying to offer here as relevant or support? Also what exactly is the position you are fumbling around trying to support?? Be concise. Be clear.

[BeyondET]

1 hour ago, dad2 said:

When you said 'how many are you' it seemed like some vague reference to Legion. However if you claim to have had some actual point in there, be clear.

As for the term 'lurkers' that is a common and widespread term on the forums used for people who read posts but usually do not post themselves. Pretending that was some insult is impish

So, I thought your general thrust was to defend deep stellar time (and therefore opposes Genesis) Be clear if you actually are struggling to say something else. You offered a few sciencey sounding words like cesium atom. Also how the sun exists where it is. You forgot to try to form that into some cohesive point. How does saying those words relate to time in the far universe?

You are the one who said (tell us) like a vague reference to a legion.

I haven't seen people use lurkers to reference people reading threads.

You said the words I posted as saying God isn't the creator of all things. Your struggling to prove what you accuse me of.

Sciencey sounding?, that is the name of the atom

 

Edited May 20, 2024 by BeyondET