Man was in Pangaea

[The Barbarian]

Ménez, B., Pisapia, C., Andreani, M. et al. Abiotic synthesis of amino acids in the recesses of the oceanic lithosphere. Nature 564, 59–63 (2018). https://doi.org/10.1038/s41586-018-0684-z

2 hours ago, dad2 said:

Nothing is feasible that has no support and only conjecture, especially when God tells us otherwise

You are not God.   And as you just learned, all the things necessary for life can be shown to naturally appear from the Earth.    Which is what God actually said.

Genesis 1:25 And God said: Let the earth bring forth the living creature in its kind cattle and creeping things, and beasts of the earth, according to their kinds. And it was so done.

The earth brought forth life.  Why not just accept it God's way?

Ménez, B., Pisapia, C., Andreani, M. et al. Abiotic synthesis of amino acids in the recesses of the oceanic lithosphere. Nature 564, 59–63 (2018). https://doi.org/10.1038/s41586-018-0684-z

3 hours ago, dad2 said:

Looking at the moon that was likely bomblasted by earth debris in the past (flood year, etc) as well as asteroids that also possibly had an earth origin, it does not mean that what we find there started there.

But as you see, we now know that they also form on the Earth, again confirming God's word.  Why won't you believe Him?

Here we show that two plausible prebiotic heterocycles, melamine and barbituric acid, form glycosidic linkages with ribose and ribose-5-phosphate in water to produce nucleosides and nucleotides in good yields. Even without purification, these nucleotides base pair in aqueous solution to create linear supramolecular assemblies containing thousands of ordered nucleotides.

3 hours ago, dad2 said:

Mixing things in a created water and created planet is not creating things.

You should stop telling God how to do things.   He says that He used the Earth to create life.   Why not just believe Him?

3 hours ago, dad2 said:

There was no such thing as some prebiotic planet.

God says there was.   I believe Him.   You should, too.

Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created heaven, and earth.  2 And the earth was void and empty, and darkness was upon the face of the deep; and the spirit of God moved over the waters.

All of this shows that there is no scientific reason God was wrong in saying life was brought forth from the Earth.     The evidence clearly indicates that it was. Why not just accept it the way He says He did it?

 

[dad2]

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You are not God. 

Believing the bible that God gave us does not make us God, it makes us believers.

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  And as you just learned, all the things necessary for life can be shown to naturally appear from the Earth.    Which is what God actually said.

There is a lot in this earth that appears and that is because it was created. Nowhere did God say that anything that was made 'arose' without Him. On the contrary. Without Him was NOT anything made that was made. Whether He formed the man from the dust or a woman from the bone of the man, or animals from the earth, He made them all. It was not spontaneous combustion.

 

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The earth brought forth life.  Why not just accept it God's way?

Genesis 1:24

And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.

Genesis 1:25

And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

 God making it was God's way.

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But as you see, we now know that they also form on the Earth, again confirming God's word.

Lots of things form on earth. It is full of life. Babies form in the womb. That does not mean God did not form Adam out of the womb. You deny creation and obsess on any little process that is a result of creation, trying to give it the credit for creation. Quite a circular little religion you have there.

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You should stop telling God how to do things.   He says that He used the Earth to create life. 

As we all have learned from the verse I just posted it actually says God made them.

 

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All of this shows that there is no scientific reason God was wrong in saying life was brought forth from the Earth.  

There is no science that can say God created or not. It is not by science that we know He did. There is no science that says God did not do exactly what He claimed and made it all.

[BeyondET]

On 5/31/2024 at 11:20 PM, dad2 said:

What sort of dirt or dust God used doesn't matter. We are not told. I am surprised you tried to make a mountain out of that. What does matter is that we believe it. Do you?

I'm not surprised you resort to sorts.

[BeyondET]

37 minutes ago, dad2 said:

Genesis 1:24

And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.

Genesis 1:25

And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

 

God making it was God's way.

Lots of things form on earth. It is full of life. Babies form in the womb. That does not mean God did not form Adam out of the womb. You deny creation and obsess on any little process that is a result of creation, trying to give it the credit for creation. Quite a circular little religion you have there.

As we all have learned from the verse I just posted it actually says God made them.

 

There is no science that can say God created or not. It is not by science that we know He did. There is no science that says God did not do exactly what He claimed and made it all.

Genesis 1:24

And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.

Genesis 1:25

And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

Why not both?

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[dad2]

11 minutes ago, BeyondET said:

I'm not surprised you resort to sorts.

Why would I care what sort of dust God used to form man exactly?

[dad2]

8 minutes ago, BeyondET said:

Genesis 1:24

And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.

Genesis 1:25

And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

Why not both?

Because we KNOW God made them. So using the earth is not a primary concern and does not change the fact He created them. No more than His using a rib from Adam changes the fact He created Eve. Or His using dust of the earth to from a man changes the fact He did it. The time in which He did it is also given, both in days and in evenings and mornings. So there is zero chance that this can be associated with evolution.

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[BeyondET]

4 minutes ago, dad2 said:

Because we KNOW God made them. So using the earth is not a primary concern.

Yes God made them through letting the earth bring them forth.

That's the whole concern. He can certainly create to manifest on its own.

Edited June 9, 2024 by BeyondET

[BeyondET]

6 minutes ago, dad2 said:

Why would I care what sort of dust God used to form man exactly?

How many sorts of dust are there?

[dad2]

1 hour ago, BeyondET said:

Yes God made them through letting the earth bring them forth.

That's the whole concern. He can certainly create to manifest on its own.

No. He used the earth in creating them. The earth itself no more created the animals than it did Adam. God used the dirt and formed it like clay into a man. Then He gave life to the form. Then He took a woman from a bone of that man. Neither were descended from any other person or animal.

[dad2]

1 hour ago, BeyondET said:

How many sorts of dust are there?

Looking at one bible dictionary I see this

Brown-Driver-Briggs'

1) dry earth, dust, powder, ashes, earth, ground, mortar, rubbish

1a) dry or loose earth

1b) debris

1c) mortar

1d) ore

 

That is a dozen right there.