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2 hours ago, Vine Abider said:

Ephesians 1:23, NASB: which is His body, the fullness of Him who fills all in all.

We really have such a small view of who we really are in Christ - Lord, open our eyes!!!

Hi VA,

Good to again focus on the topic.

`God the Father....gave Him as Head over all things to the church, which is His body, the fullness of Him who fills all in all.` (Eph. 1: 22 & 23)

`till we all come to the unity of the faith and the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ.` (Eph. 4: 13)

I believe that to be the very divine nature of Christ as 2 Peter 1: 4 speaks of. The well known international Bible teacher from last century, C.J. Rolls likens Christ life to `bread.`

Bread is bought to nourish those who are alive; but Christ, the Bread of God imparts life eternal. The physical bread we eat is from wheat or other grains, grown in the ground from whence our bodies are derived. The calcium, silicon, iodine, iron, phosphates etc in an organic form are packed into the wheat in order to build up our strength.

In like manner, if we are to become partakers of spiritual life and immortality we must eat the Bread of God, which is made up of righteousness, goodness, lovingkindness, graciousness, perfectness, holiness and such like which result in Christ likeness.

To believe Christ and receive Him is to appropriate and partake of the Bread of God , (Christ`s character)  which came down from Heaven. In doing so the result is life everlasting, because these divine virtues are imperishable. Therefore the gift (reward) of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

 

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Hi believeinHim, And I believe it has always been the Body of believers. `God...gave Him, (Jesus) as Head over all things to the church which IS HIS BODY.`(Eph. 1: 22 & 23) The word

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A big Amen to all of that bro. Just what we need to focus on and discuss. As to the oneness of the Spirit we are told to - giving diligence to keep, earnestly striving to maintain, the unity of the Sp

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The funny thing is, you gave me a 💗emoji, on a topic , which the interpretation was from got...you must have liked that answer from them then.

No really...but something in that post was a solid truth..

Not for everything...all well sister...just friendly discussion..you are still very lovable...

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26 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

@Marilyn C

You are very quick...I am on an I'phone...and cannot catch up with you and I need to bring something to your attention...

I used those words because I do not want you to think that I have Judge something you posted before we discuss  it...

Hi farouk,

I am on my computer and can now type quickly. And yes a phone is quite slow.  I never think you judge me, for I know you will address something in the right manner for the benefit of the hearers.

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Ah, but we have veered from our brother's topic. 

Have I already responded to your OP, @Vine Abider? I confess that I can't remember if I forgot to remember to do that since we share the same conviction regarding your question, 

"Is the Church Christ?"

To which I say, "Yes, we are."

I'm on my phone at the moment, so no copying or pasting verses of scripture. That's excellent, because I would rather express scriptural truth relying upon my own words, which the reader can verify for themselves. It's simple to find.

We are living stones in the temple raised without human hands, for God does not dwell in structures built by man. Just as God raised the Son of Man from the dead on the third day, so the Son of God has raised us up from the dead. We were dead in our trespasses but now, having been crucified with Christ and buried with Him in death, we have been raised in newness of life in His Holy Spirit, who conforms us to the image of the Son from glory to glory. We are fashioned in His image by the power of God!

We are the temple of the Holy Spirit both individually and collectively, created in Christ for good works ordained by God for us to walk in. It was good that the Lord departed to sit with our Father upon His throne, for this is the fulfillment of the promise spoken by the prophets:

God with us, who is Immanuel. By ascending, the Lord has secured our place seated with Him in the heavenly places; God pours His Spirit upon us without measure. Walking in the Spirit of the Lord, joined together as living stones in His House without end, seated with Jesus Christ in the heavenly places, we are His Body and so we are, indeed, Christ.

I hope that answers the question,  my friend. References to scripture should be evident. :)

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11 minutes ago, Marilyn C said:

Hi VA,

Good to again focus on the topic.

`God the Father....gave Him as Head over all things to the church, which is His body, the fullness of Him who fills all in all.` (Eph. 1: 22 & 23)

`till we all come to the unity of the faith and the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ.` (Eph. 4: 13)

I believe that to be the very divine nature of Christ as 2 Peter 1: 4 speaks of. The well known international Bible teacher from last century, C.J. Rolls likens Christ life to `bread.`

Bread is bought to nourish those who are alive; but Christ, the Bread of God imparts life eternal. The physical bread we eat is from wheat or other grains, grown in the ground from whence our bodies are derived. The calcium, silicon, iodine, iron, phosphates etc in an organic form are packed into the wheat in order to build up our strength.

In like manner, if we are to become partakers of spiritual life and immortality we must eat the Bread of God, which is made up of righteousness, goodness, lovingkindness, graciousness, perfectness, holiness and such like which result in Christ likeness.

To believe Christ and receive Him is to appropriate and partake of the Bread of God , (Christ`s character)  which came down from Heaven. In doing so the result is life everlasting, because these divine virtues are imperishable. Therefore the gift (reward) of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

 

I think I remember you quoting from C R Rolls before, @Marilyn C...

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13 minutes ago, Marilyn C said:

Hi farouk,

I am on my computer and can now type quickly. And yes a phone is quite slow.  I never think you judge me, for I know you will address something in the right manner for the benefit of the hearers.

@Marilyn C

Hi it's me YCF ...

This is it what is all about, in revelation 21: we read: 

Come and I will show you the bride and then it talks about the Heavenly Jerusalem...

Revelation 21:9-14 

Come, I will show you the bride, the wife of the Lamb.” 10 And he carried me away in the Spirit to a mountain great and high, and showed me the Holy City, Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God. 11 It shone with the glory of God, and its brilliance was like that of a very precious jewel, like a jasper, clear as crystal. 12 It had a great, high wall with twelve gates, and with twelve angels at the gates. On the gates were written the names of the twelve tribes of Israel. 13 There were three gates on the east, three on the north, three on the south and three on the west. 14 The wall of the city had twelve foundations, and on them were the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.

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7 minutes ago, Marathoner said:

We are living stones in the temple raised without human hands, for God does not dwell in structures built by man. Just as God raised the Son of Man from the dead on the third day, so the Son of God has raised us up from the dead. We were dead in our trespasses but now, having been crucified with Christ and buried with Him in death, we have been raised in newness of life in His Holy Spirit, who conforms us to the image of the Son from glory to glory. We are fashioned in His image by the power of God!

Your doctrine above is sound, @Marathoner

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His Precious Blood Shed For His Glorious Ekklesia

(Eph 5:27)  That he might present it to himself a glorious ekklesia, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
(1Pe 1:19)  But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:
 

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I’m quite disappointed that George didn’t answer your question, I would have loved to have read his input,Sis.

Never mind, maybe he will answer when he is less busy, I do hope so @George

I've got a fair idea of George's position on this subject,

You might like to check out this devotion of his.

Prepare to be married! - Worthy Christian Devotions - Daily Devotional (worthydevotions.com)

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What kind of bible version do you have that say that the ten virgins were the brides of the bridegroom? 

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2 hours ago, Vine Abider said:

Ephesians 1:23, NASB: which is His body, the fullness of Him who fills all in all.

We really have such a small view of who we really are in Christ - Lord, open our eyes!!!

Hi VA,

Such an important point, `the fullness of Him,` which I believe the Holy Spirit would have us look and meditate on. Too often we want to focus on US. But as @farouk has said, `turn you eyes upon Jesus...` 

His fullness is His divine character and as C.J. Rolls says that is made up of 42 characteristics. 

`righteousness, goodness, lovingkindness, graciousness, perfectness, holiness, faithfulness, meekness, humbleness, truthfulness, winsomeness, friendliness, godliness, loveliness, manliness, purity, steadfastness, trustworthy, undefiled, 

and I will have to look for more.

To think that the Holy Spirit is making us like Him. Wonder of wonders.

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