Paul's arguer's proven Pic of 2000 yrs ago from Acts 26: Do you think you can convince me to become a Christian in such a short time?NKJV Footnote. 60 to 9o% of US Christian youth left the faith-Kirk Cameron, Josh Mcdowell. British are druids today. Why?

[Neighbor]

1 hour ago, FJK said:

Public schools are doing their job.

Funny one! If you enjoy grim humor. Today's schools public and private, religious,  Christian, and secular are all in flux. AI will soon take over to do a much better job of teaching to the test than any human  is doing today in a classroom setting.

Eventually  AI might even teach past the extremely limiting "critic thinking" craze of today, which is really the  dumbing down of students. AI might soon be able to encourage original thinking, something humans,  so called teachers, in a classroom setting are not likely to encourage in their students today as the teachers are being instructed  to homogenize  outcome to fit a standard, a teach to the test more than a teaching of how to learn and to build upon that in order to discover anew.

[JimmyB]

On 6/20/2023 at 7:16 PM, Anne2 said:

And everyone of them claims to believe what the bible teaches. No wonder they do not believe it.

We all have been a part of this sad situation. 

The Bible is spiritually understood.  That is not a "sad situation" if one pays attention.

[JimmyB]

On 8/18/2023 at 7:55 AM, Neighbor said:

Funny one! If you enjoy grim humor. Today's schools public and private, religious,  Christian, and secular are all in flux. AI will soon take over to do a much better job of teaching to the test than any human  is doing today in a classroom setting.

Eventually  AI might even teach past the extremely limiting "critic thinking" craze of today, which is really the  dumbing down of students. AI might soon be able to encourage original thinking, something humans,  so called teachers, in a classroom setting are not likely to encourage in their students today as the teachers are being instructed  to homogenize  outcome to fit a standard, a teach to the test more than a teaching of how to learn and to build upon that in order to discover anew.

"AI might soon be able to encourage original thinking, something humans,  so called teachers, in a classroom setting are not likely to encourage in their students today as the teachers are being instructed  to homogenize  outcome to fit a standard, a teach to the test more than a teaching of how to learn and to build upon that in order to discover anew" is a run-on sentence. 

And by "critic thinking" do you mean "critical thinking"?

[Who me]

I'll  join in and demonstrate  the ignorance  of your pastors.

Look up Sir William Michael Ramsay:-https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Mitchell_Ramsay

This is wiki page for him, you can also find him on the biblical archeology  site.

He demonstrated back at the beginning of the 20th century  the accuracy  of the New Testament.

Ask you ministers why they haven't  taught you about him.

Then there is Prof Robert dick Wi.son, an American who in the 1930 demonstrated from the heights of linguistic excellence ( he was fluent in every biblical language ) the accuracy of the Old Testament:-https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Dick_Wilson

Again a wiki  page  you can find him on Christian sites.

Let's come up todate.

None of you have mention today's experts on the accuracy and reliability of the bible.

Do you know them?

Lee Strobel he has investigate and published his findings.

James Warner of coldasechristianity.

These are two X atheists who became Christian because of the provable evidence.

Dr G Habbermas an expert on the historical  fa ts of the resurrection.

William Lane  raig a professor  of philosophy  and a formidable  debater about God,  chistianity etc look at his Web site reasonablefaith.

Then there are Web sites like answers in genesis, they have many articles easier to understand than  Craig, that show the accuracy and reliability of the bible.

Creation.com ditto.

Wintery Knight, toughquestionsanswered.

You should all be familiar  with these sites and people sharing the information in your churches.

There is no excuse for any Christian not to be able to answer the questio s you've  had asked of you.

 

Start reading.

 

 

[Anne2]

On 8/19/2023 at 7:52 AM, JimmyB said:

 if one pays attention.

This is the sad situation I was speaking of.......

[Anne2]

On 8/18/2023 at 6:55 AM, Neighbor said:

Funny one! If you enjoy grim humor. Today's schools public and private, religious,  Christian, and secular are all in flux. AI will soon take over to do a much better job of teaching to the test than any human  is doing today in a classroom setting.

Eventually  AI might even teach past the extremely limiting "critic thinking" craze of today, which is really the  dumbing down of students. AI might soon be able to encourage original thinking, something humans,  so called teachers, in a classroom setting are not likely to encourage in their students today as the teachers are being instructed  to homogenize  outcome to fit a standard, a teach to the test more than a teaching of how to learn and to build upon that in order to discover anew.

 

[TrueFollowerOfChrist]

Most Christians are disobedient and especially Christian parents when it comes to teaching the Bible. Barna research suggests that only 2-4 % of Believers share their faith with others. Out of all the christian parents I know, I have yet to meet a single one that teaches their children apologetics. We as a society have not prepared our youth to believe in scripture and Jesus in the face of colleges and people who say the bible is false and evolution and humanism are true. Pastors don't seem to teach apologetics to the churches much either. I firmly believe this generation will be judged far more harshly than any generation before us because the rise of technology and churches and bibles has made true faith in Jesus SUPER easy. But the question still remains. WHY are pastors and parents NOT equipping people to not only share their faith but to be rock solid in their faith?

[DeighAnn]

1 hour ago, TrueFollowerOfChrist said:

Most Christians are disobedient and especially Christian parents when it comes to teaching the Bible. Barna research suggests that only 2-4 % of Believers share their faith with others. Out of all the christian parents I know, I have yet to meet a single one that teaches their children apologetics. We as a society have not prepared our youth to believe in scripture and Jesus in the face of colleges and people who say the bible is false and evolution and humanism are true. Pastors don't seem to teach apologetics to the churches much either. I firmly believe this generation will be judged far more harshly than any generation before us because the rise of technology and churches and bibles has made true faith in Jesus SUPER easy. But the question still remains. WHY are pastors and parents NOT equipping people to not only share their faith but to be rock solid in their faith?

I think it is because
Many false doctrines and many false christs...doctrines that all say, it's not going to happen to you and/or its super simple just say this and you are good to go...and/or if you work it is because you have no faith and are doing it to earn your own salvation... Jesus did it all...

And God also said

Amos 8

1Thus hath the Lord GOD shewed unto me: and behold a basket of summer fruit.

2And he said, Amos, what seest thou? And I said, A basket of summer fruit. Then said the LORD unto me, The end is come upon my people of Israel; I will not again pass by them any more.

3And the songs of the temple shall be howlings in that day, saith the Lord GOD: there shall be many dead bodies in every place; they shall cast them forth with silence.

4Hear this, O ye that swallow up the needy, even to make the poor of the land to fail,

5Saying, When will the new moon be gone, that we may sell corn? and the sabbath, that we may set forth wheat, making the ephah small, and the shekel great, and falsifying the balances by deceit?

6That we may buy the poor for silver, and the needy for a pair of shoes; yea, and sell the refuse of the wheat?

7The LORD hath sworn by the excellency of Jacob, Surely I will never forget any of their works.

8Shall not the land tremble for this, and every one mourn that dwelleth therein? and it shall rise up wholly as a flood; and it shall be cast out and drowned, as by the flood of Egypt.

9And it shall come to pass in that day, saith the Lord GOD, that I will cause the sun to go down at noon, and I will darken the earth in the clear day:

10And I will turn your feasts into mourning, and all your songs into lamentation; and I will bring up sackcloth upon all loins, and baldness upon every head; and I will make it as the mourning of an only son, and the end thereof as a bitter day.

11Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD:

12And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even to the east, they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the LORD, and shall not find it.

13In that day shall the fair virgins and young men faint for thirst.

14They that swear by the sin of Samaria, and say, Thy god, O Dan, liveth; and, The manner of Beersheba liveth; even they shall fall, and never rise up again.



There are 'season's' we need to know and be aware of.  They are our 'clock' as to what time it is.  

That is the difference between being a Christian and not.  We can understand what is going on in the world around us and why when the rest of the world just lives it like it is random somehow, we know the truth.  

 

1But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.

2For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.

3For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

4But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.

5Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.

6Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.

7For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.

8But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.

9For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,

10Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him.

11Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do.

12And we beseech you, brethren, to know them which labour among you, and are over you in the Lord, and admonish you;

13And to esteem them very highly in love for their work's sake. And be at peace among yourselves.


 

14Now we exhort you, brethren, warn them that are unruly, comfort the feebleminded, support the weak, be patient toward all men.

15See that none render evil for evil unto any man; but ever follow that which is good, both among yourselves, and to all men.

16Rejoice evermore.

17Pray without ceasing.

18In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you.

19Quench not the Spirit.

20Despise not prophesyings.

21Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

22Abstain from all appearance of evil.

23And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

24Faithful is he that calleth you, who also will do it.

25Brethren, pray for us.

26Greet all the brethren with an holy kiss.

27I charge you by the Lord that this epistle be read unto all the holy brethren.

28The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen. (The first epistle to the Thessalonians was written from Athens.)

[Daniel Marsh]

It is really simple you have a choice to repent and follow Jesus or spend your eternity in Eternal Punishment.   Matthew 24:46  If you want to gamble wait until you are on your death bed.

[rontiger]

On 4/26/2023 at 3:01 PM, Who me said:

Chesterons answer to ' What's wrong with the world? '

                                                  " I am! "

Is also the answer to the comp,ain't in this thread.

Who has shown no interest in learning about Christianity?

Who has been lackadaisical  in there private devotions?

Who has not listened to the meat of the gospel preferring to drink milk?

Who has not challenged  their congregations on spiritual and moral issues?

Who has not brought spiritual meat before their members, encouraging them to digest it?

 

The list goes on and on but basically  the responsibility  for the decline in our churches is ours.(rontiger's bold emphasis)

The old testament  refrain,  if my people who are called by my name will humble themselves, turn from their wicked ways and pray.

What will hapen?

Paul says he gives(baby'?) milk to the Corinthians in 1 Cor. 3:2 because they can't handle meaty food.{ Or refuse to, I feel he is possibly relaying?] As you say dear Who Me, " lackadaisical"  in  private study of the Word.

1 Cor. 3:2: I fed you with milk and not with solid food; for until now you were not able to receive it, and even now you are still not able;

I blame myself more for- compared to when I began this thread- for the church-goers leaving Christ; because the Holy Spirit has pointed this out to me quite starkly. Miraculously all your replies, my dear Worthy bros and sisters and prayers, have enabled me to :

change my lukewarm attitude towards the Gospel and edifying Christian youth/adults.

Being lukewarm, a church elder pointed out to me, is the one of greatest sins a born again Christian can commit.

It helps destroy the Church-it does! As Jesus says to us His beloved children, He is going to spit some  out of his mouth in Revelation 3:16 because the church of Laodicea was lukewarm even though they were materially rich. This is us -the West- the Christians in the third world are sacrificing their lives . 8000 a year; over 1 million since 2005 according to Fox News and the Centre for the Study of Global Christianity in Massachusetts.

And I cannot be on super hot fire for the greatest Lord Jesus?

Many Christian teens in Iraq volunteered to be beheaded for Jesus-one was documented to be sawn into 2 pieces! 

I thought I was doing quite a bit for the Lord- but I was still lukewarm. The Elder pointed this out by the Spirit. 

Here below are some higher Resolution photos I ordered from the www.windowintothebible.com, a few weeks ago. They are free to use in youth group/Sunday Schools, Churches lobby's , etc.

The renowned Austin Henry Layard - even atheistic Wikipedia agrees!- says the Lachish relief is an actual picture of the Word.

Romans 10:17 says faith comes from hearing the Word!

So Christ has given us an actual  proven and undisputed" stone video/documentary" from the time of the Prophet Isaiah! I am begging Christians peeking from the web to use this free photos to print out and share, if you are led by the Spirit of Christ to do so!

We win! We can prove the book of Isaiah , and Matthew's Gospel by this!

If one is not amazed/shocked by this, then he has not understood  how  "doubt-destroying" these photos are. The New Zealand family went to the UK to photograph it. 

They did the hard work.

Thank you so truly much Who Me for your reply- and all my dear Worthy bros/sisters !!! I really, really appreciate you all taking the time and reading and replying to my ramblings! 

Happy Thanksgiving.

You all really inspired me to go thermonuclear. We all need encouragement-especially Lukewarm rontiger- but lukewarm no longer(since about November 1 actually, I better keep it up after all that I posted here, so pray for me- but it's literally killing my dearest mommy with worry.)

The new higher resolution  Lachish relief photo I got from www.windowintothebible.com is too big a file -it is about 3 MB- so I cannot show it here but you can go to the site and ask for a higher res photos. Ross will send it to you but might take 2 months actually.( the low res photo you see on their website and which I'm going to link below below isn't great but will do possibly be ok for a 10" by 8"  page.)

Alamy photos sell super high definition  photos of the Lachish relief which you can enlarge to 8 feet by 8 feet. Put it in your churches lobby or your homeschooling place. Why not? Prove the Word- it is easy as 1, 2. 3.

No one's doing it it in our churches-you will be rewarded by better communities here and also with eternal rewards.

Do you really want to be the rif-raf in heaven ?I very humbly and softly ask the nonmembers who are peering in from the wwweb.The lowest of Christ's children? Heaven is not a socialist place.

Dear people peeking in from the worldwide web. I'm begging you to share this with your church! 

1500 plus evangelical churches closed in 2019

- a net loss for the 1st time.(see the Lifeway research link below). Please Help-do your part if you can.

Alamy: super hi res photo: Lachish relief- but costs 20$

Lachish relief. South-West Palace of king Sennacherib in Nineveh, Iraq. Assyrian victory over the kingdom of Judah during the siege of Lachish in 701 BC. Carved between 700-681 BC. British Museum. London, United Kingdom Stock Photo - Alamy

windowintothebible. low resol. photo of Isaiah 36:1  and Isaiah 36:2

The Siege of Lachish - Window into the Bible free photos that will cause all who see it to remain in Christ( you can ask them for higher quality 2.5 MB photos but hurry they closed their museum in 2021- note: that Tv preacher Dr. David Jeremiah says he goes to Isaiah when he has doubt. And we can prove Isaiah now! Let us conquer using the Word! But we aren't!

I just cannot believe how I let the Church-goers- youth and adults de-convert. We have the proof in the Word! A photo(s) of the Word yet no one-especially I- showed this to the churches. Let me explain: you have to deliberately print or enlarge these photos and actually present it to 5 to 35 year old church-goers or they leave!

Lifeway research:

 Protestant Church Closures Outpace Openings in U.S. - Lifeway Research

The Siege of Lachish - Window into the Bible

Thanks again for bearing to listen with my ramblings! Thank you so truly much again for your replies and considering if you can-especially you all nonmembers peeking in from the web- on sharing!