Adam & Eve - Christ & The Church

[Your closest friendnt]

11 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

What was that the Priesthood could not do (a number of things) so we had the need for a Priest in the order of Melhisedec.. please.

What Melchzedek did the Priesthood of the Law of Moses was forbidden to do..

So there was a need to end the Law with the Aaronic Priesthood and put in Place the New Law and have a Priesthood who will be able to do what was forbidden by the Priesthood in the Law of Moses...

To make it more simple we as believers can do in the New Law what Melhisedeck did long time ago when he met Abraham and all the other People with him...from the nations around him.

He distributed the Bread and the wine to all of them starting with Abraham and then to all other people who were with him without any prejudice...

[Anne2]

9 minutes ago, farouk said:

@Anne2 Well, there was a lot of failure at the time of the Judges, wasn't there...

Yes, there was failure there. What do you think of my question? It's puzzling. God says he was rejected as their king, yet those verses of doing what was right in their own eyes because they had no king. Thoughts?

[Your closest friendnt]

We can give to anyone in the world and not to forget the Jews who also need the bread of Life...and this is possible because at the same time we give them forgiveness of their sins by the blood of Jesus Christ. The slained Lamb of God. 

That could be possible only after the Lamb of God was slained.  

[farouk]

1 minute ago, Anne2 said:

Yes, there was failure there. What do you think of my question? It's puzzling. God says he was rejected as their king, yet those verses of doing what was right in their own eyes because they had no king. Thoughts?

Some ppl seem to want to use those verses about doing what was right in their own eyes as almost an excuse for lawlessness in the local church.

(Sorry, which question?)

[NConly]

31 minutes ago, Anne2 said:

True, the Sinai covenant allowed for them choose to do so. Their king could also be from any tribe. 

I disagree.

1 Sam 8:

4Then all the elders of Israel gathered themselves together, and came to Samuel unto Ramah,

5 And said unto him, Behold, thou art old, and thy sons walk not in thy ways: now make us a king to judge us like all the nations.

6 But the thing displeased Samuel, when they said, Give us a king to judge us. And Samuel prayed unto the LORD.

7 And the LORD said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them.

 

[Anne2]

Just now, farouk said:

Some ppl seem to want to use those verses about doing what was right in their own eyes as almost an excuse for lawlessness in the local church.

(Sorry, which question?)

God said they rejected him as their king, when they asked for a king right? But the verses concerning them doing what was right in their own eyes because they had no king? was before asked for a king. They were still under the judges, at that time 

[NConly]

29 minutes ago, Anne2 said:

If God was their king, why then this

Jud 17:6  In those days there was no king in Israel, but every man did that which was right in his own eyes.
Jud 18:1  In those days there was no king in Israel: and in those days the tribe of the Danites sought them an inheritance to dwell in; for unto that day all their inheritance had not fallen unto them among the tribes of Israel.
Jud 19:1  And it came to pass in those days, when there was no king in Israel, that there was a certain Levite sojourning on the side of mount Ephraim, who took to him a concubine out of Bethlehemjudah.
Jud 21:25  In those days there was no king in Israel: every man did that which was right in his own eyes.
 

1 Sam 8

1 And it came to pass, when Samuel was old, that he made his sons judges over Israel.

2 Now the name of his firstborn was Joel; and the name of his second, Abiah: they were judges in Beersheba.

3 And his sons walked not in his ways, but turned aside after lucre, and took bribes, and perverted judgment.

[Anne2]

3 minutes ago, NConly said:

I disagree.

1 Sam 8:

4Then all the elders of Israel gathered themselves together, and came to Samuel unto Ramah,

5 And said unto him, Behold, thou art old, and thy sons walk not in thy ways: now make us a king to judge us like all the nations.

6 But the thing displeased Samuel, when they said, Give us a king to judge us. And Samuel prayed unto the LORD.

7 And the LORD said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them.

 

Here is what I was talking about.

De 17:14  When thou art come unto the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, and shalt possess it, and shalt dwell therein, and shalt say, I will set a king over me, like as all the nations that are about me;
De 17:15  Thou shalt in any wise set him king over thee, whom the LORD thy God shall choose: one from among thy brethren shalt thou set king over thee: thou mayest not set a stranger over thee, which is not thy brother.
 

It could have been any of their brethren, tribe is not stipulated.

[farouk]

3 minutes ago, NConly said:

1 Sam 8

1 And it came to pass, when Samuel was old, that he made his sons judges over Israel.

2 Now the name of his firstborn was Joel; and the name of his second, Abiah: they were judges in Beersheba.

3 And his sons walked not in his ways, but turned aside after lucre, and took bribes, and perverted judgment.

@NConly Kind of like Eli's sons did, right?

[Anne2]

3 minutes ago, NConly said:

1 Sam 8

1 And it came to pass, when Samuel was old, that he made his sons judges over Israel.

2 Now the name of his firstborn was Joel; and the name of his second, Abiah: they were judges in Beersheba.

3 And his sons walked not in his ways, but turned aside after lucre, and took bribes, and perverted judgment.

Ok, God was still their king wasn't he? The Judges were bad.