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3 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

They are all ruling together today over the promised land.By my understanding ,the kingdom shall be destroyed and their kingdom given to the saints as that is who it is promised to.

If the ten kings are all ruling today over the promised land, how does this list of the ten kings of yours apply?   You have stuff dating back a hundred years from today.

 

The three which were subdued

Egypt-1922

Jordan-1946

Syria-1946

The remaining horns

Oman -NA

Quatar-1868

Yemen-1918

Iraq-1922

Turkey-1923

Saudi Arabia -1932

Lebanon-1946

 


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3 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

They are all ruling together today over the promised land.By my understanding ,the kingdom shall be destroyed and their kingdom given to the saints as that is who it is promised to.

The kingdom of the ten kings is the EU, Europe Unified.    That kingdom will be destroyed and given over to the burning flame (Daniel 7:11).   Europe as individual nations will continue, but never again as a unity of nations.

Differently, the kingdom to be given to the saints is the everlasting Kingdom of God.


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1 hour ago, douggg said:

That is a false accusation you are making.

Jesus returns 1335 days after the abomination of desolation statue of the beast king is placed on the temple mount.     On day 1185 is when the AoD statue image will be placed on the temple mount.    Jesus returns 1335 days later on day 2520.

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If you are referring to the series of actions by which the person becomes the beast king

there is not enough information to know when on a timeline the Antichrist first reveals himself as the man of sin by committing the transgression of desolation act in 2Thessalonians2:4.

Nor how much time passes between that event and him becoming the beast king.

The timeframe shaded in blue on the timeline chart below cannot be determined for certain.

 

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and I've already proven by Jesus and Daniels words that the abomination that causes desolation is placed in Jerusalem at the time of great tribulation spoken by Daniel in Daniel 12:1 which is when the man of sin is destroyed in Daniel 11:45 and the resurrection takes place at the same time in Daniel 12:2.

That is when Jesus comes.


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1 hour ago, douggg said:

If the ten kings are all ruling today over the promised land, how does this list of the ten kings of yours apply?   You have stuff dating back a hundred years from today.

 

The three which were subdued

Egypt-1922

Jordan-1946

Syria-1946

The remaining horns

Oman -NA

Quatar-1868

Yemen-1918

Iraq-1922

Turkey-1923

Saudi Arabia -1932

Lebanon-1946

 

Daniel saw them coming up.He did not see them all appear at the same time and he specifically stated that the little horn who was different than the first horns came up last.

The last to come up was the nation that calls itself Israel.Or rather ,the government chose to call itself Israel.According to Daniel the kingdom will be destroyed and then given to the saints ts.

The kingdom of heaven has nothing to do with Europe.The kingdom of heaven is the kingdom promised to Abraham and his seed.

 

Mathew 8

11 And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven.

12 But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.


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48 minutes ago, douggg said:

The kingdom of the ten kings is the EU, Europe Unified.    That kingdom will be destroyed and given over to the burning flame (Daniel 7:11).   Europe as individual nations will continue, but never again as a unity of nations.

Differently, the kingdom to be given to the saints is the everlasting Kingdom of God.

The kingdom to be given to the saints is the exact same kingdom promised to Abraham.Im sure you can go live in Europe if you want but that's not where Abraham will be in the kingdom of heaven that was promised to him as an everlasting possession.

 

 

11 And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven.

12 But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.


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3 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

and I've already proven by Jesus and Daniels words that the abomination that causes desolation is placed in Jerusalem at the time of great tribulation spoken by Daniel in Daniel 12:1 which is when the man of sin is destroyed in Daniel 11:45 and the resurrection takes place at the same time in Daniel 12:2.

That is when Jesus comes.

So from the day the abomination of desolation is setup and placed in Jerusalem (to use your words) - how long will it be before Jesus returns to stand on the Mt. of Olives ?


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3 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

Daniel saw them coming up.He did not see them all appear at the same time and he specifically stated that the little horn who was different than the first horns came up last.

The last to come up was the nation that calls itself Israel.Or rather ,the government chose to call itself Israel.According to Daniel the kingdom will be destroyed and then given to the saints ts.

I don't see how you answered the question.    The ten horn kings all rule with the beast king for one hour.   What has that got to do with that list of nations you created?

The ten horns are kings - not nations, nor kingdoms.

Revelation 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.


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3 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

The kingdom to be given to the saints is the exact same kingdom promised to Abraham.

The kingdom to be given to the saints will be the everlasting Kingdom of God.    The kingdom that Jesus was given in heaven, in Daniel 7.

 

Daniel 7:13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.

14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.

 

Jesus in the four gospels did not say go out and preach the kingdom of Abraham was at hand - but the kingdom of heaven.

People don't preach the kingdom of Abraham is at hand, but the kingdom of God.

In the Lord's prayer, we don't pray - may the kingdom of Abraham come soon.   No, we pray - may thy (God's) Kingdom come soon .

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37 minutes ago, douggg said:

So from the day the abomination of desolation is setup and placed in Jerusalem (to use your words) - how long will it be before Jesus returns to stand on the Mt. of Olives ?

He didnt say.

Could be the same day.He could be standing in the fire or coming in the clouds of that fire.

Daniel says blessed is he who comes to the 1335 day which would be 45 days after the abk.ination is placed but does not say what day this is .

It's possible it could be the feast of tabernacles as zech spoke of in the same chapter.

I'm sure I will.understand it better when I have the date the abomination will be placed so I'm not worried about it either way.

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18 minutes ago, douggg said:

The kingdom to be given to the saints will be the everlasting Kingdom of God.    The kingdom that Jesus was given in heaven, in Daniel 7.

 

Daniel 7:13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.

14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.

 

Jesus in the four gospels did not say go out and preach the kingdom of Abraham was at hand - but the kingdom of heaven.

People don't preach the kingdom of Abraham is at hand, but the kingdom of God.

In the Lord's prayer, we don't pray - may the kingdom of Abraham come soon.   No, we pray - may thy (God's) Kingdom come soon .

I said God had promised to give Abraham and his seed the kingdom of heaven for an everlasting possession.

You must not know where the kingdom .of heaven will be when it comes.You don't even know what direction to travel to,to get there.

Mathew 8:11

I say to you that many will come from the east and the west, and will take their places at the feast with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven.

 

Because I know the exact location and boundaries of the king of heaven,I know I will be traveling east to arrive there.That is the shortest distance for me to travel in to arrive at that kingdom where Abraham ,Isaac and Jacob will be.

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