So at what stage are you with smoking?

[farouk]

13 hours ago, Willa said:

=I quit in 1967

@Willa You are evidently a lady with a lot of experience - indeed in many areas - as a veteran smoker and a veteran quitter of smoking...

Thanks.

[farouk]

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[farouk]

23 hours ago, AFlameOfFire said:

I thought nothing about participating a little

 

PS: @AFlameOfFire Excellent, indeed, yes.

I do think indeed also that when ppl may light a cigarette they are not necessarily or even remotely putting themselves into pre-determined categories of thinking that some other might like to foist upon them.

So what you say is very good.

[Guest AFlameOfFire]

40 minutes ago, farouk said:

PS: @AFlameOfFire Excellent, indeed, yes.

I do think indeed also that when ppl may light a cigarette they are not necessarily or even remotely putting themselves into pre-determined categories of thinking that some other might like to foist upon them.

So what you say is very good.

farouk you do know when I said that it was not in the context smoking, but participating in this smoking thread you invited me to lol

 

 

[farouk]

3 minutes ago, AFlameOfFire said:

farouk you do know when I said that it was not in the context smoking, but participating in this smoking thread you invited me to lol

 

 

@AFlameOfFire Yes, indeed, this is right. Now happily quit, and more power to you, indeed.

I was thinking really more along the lines of what you said earlier:

those who professed Christ .. some of them at the time smoked too. .. We would sit around smoking cigarettes and talk Jesus Christ.

I'm sure that on these occasions you were referring to it wasn't the case of you and your friends linking a supposed theme between the joy of speaking about the Lord Jesus Christ and lighting a cigarette: this presumably would not remotely have happened.

More that it would simply have been a custom as adult friends to light up, with no particular link to what was being talked about, really. It would have been more, simply doing it.

[Guest AFlameOfFire]

20 minutes ago, farouk said:

@AFlameOfFire Yes, indeed, this is right. Now happily quit, and more power to you, indeed.

I was thinking really more along the lines of what you said earlier:

 

 

I'm sure that on these occasions you were referring to it wasn't the case of you and your friends linking a supposed theme between the joy of speaking about the Lord Jesus Christ and lighting a cigarette: this presumably would not remotely have happened.

More that it would simply have been a custom as adult friends to light up, with no particular link to what was being talked about, really. It would have been more, simply doing it.

I started smoking at 12 years old, and the older I got (which was still long before Christ) I saw it more as a ritual, a smoky ritual, like the Indians for example, they smoked their peace pipes, that sort of thing.  There was no better combination than a morning ritual of nothing but coffee and cigarettes.

I hated the way it made my clothes smell though, and my house, that alone will begin to drive anyone to want to quit.  Even as a smoker I hated it. 

I knew for myself that it was more of addiction because I never really enjoyed the actual taste of plain cigarettes. I always had to have a cigarette along with a piece of gum or a mint or something like that (just to mask the taste) even with coffee. But I did find them to be calming to a degree, and so that the whole peace pipe ritual made a little sense to me.

I think there is some perverse history to the whole idea of cigarettes I saw something on it on youtube once, I forget what its called though.

 

 

[farouk]

2 hours ago, AFlameOfFire said:

I started smoking at 12 years old, and the older I got (which was still long before Christ) I saw it more as a ritual, a smoky ritual, like the Indians for example, they smoked their peace pipes, that sort of thing.  There was no better combination than a morning ritual of nothing but coffee and cigarettes.

I hated the way it made my clothes smell though, and my house, that alone will begin to drive anyone to want to quit.  Even as a smoker I hated it. 

I knew for myself that it was more of addiction because I never really enjoyed the actual taste of plain cigarettes. I always had to have a cigarette along with a piece of gum or a mint or something like that (just to mask the taste) even with coffee. But I did find them to be calming to a degree, and so that the whole peace pipe ritual made a little sense to me.

I think there is some perverse history to the whole idea of cigarettes I saw something on it on youtube once, I forget what its called though.

 

 

@AFlameOfFire Yes, well if you started when you did, the by the time you were a college student - the scene you described about you and your friends sitting together sounds like college student life -  you were likely already a fairly veteran smoking woman, for whom lighting up would have been a rather natural instinct.

Re. coffee; you're right that for many ppl the taste of coffee and cigarettes blend naturally and it can take an effort for them to become 'unblended', so to speak.

Having travelled in France and Italy, it's clear just how for a very long time the taste of both have been inextricably linked, and it provides a challenge for those who are determined to de-link them. I'm sure you would agree.

Edited October 13, 2023 by farouk

[Guest AFlameOfFire]

1 hour ago, farouk said:

@AFlameOfFire Yes, well if you started when you did, the by the time you were a college student - the scene you described about you and your friends sitting together sounds like college student life -  you were likely already a fairly veteran smoking woman, for whom lighting up would have been a rather natural instinct.

Re. coffee; you're right that for many ppl the taste of coffee and cigarettes blend naturally and it can take an effort for them to become 'unblended', so to speak.

Having travelled in France and Italy, it's clear just how for a very long time the taste of both have been inextricably linked, and it provides a challenge for those who are determined to de-link them. I'm sure you would agree.

farouk are you a trained data miner?

Because you are very good at it, I would actually hire you 

And farouk I agree the taste of coffee and cigarettes was something I missed alot in the beginning, I dont know why that is but it is true the two go together well and I think most people across the globe would agree.

And thats bout all I can think to say about that old stinky habit.

My house smells much better and so does my hair and clothes these days, its been nice. 

 

 

[farouk]

12 minutes ago, AFlameOfFire said:

farouk are you a trained data miner?

Because you are very good at it, I would actually hire you 

And farouk I agree the taste of coffee and cigarettes was something I missed alot in the beginning, I dont know why that is but it is true the two go together well and I think most people across the globe would agree.

And thats bout all I can think to say about that old stinky habit.

My house smells much better and so does my hair and clothes these days, its been nice. 

 

 

@AFlameOfFire Well, I guess that Christian women who are recent ex-smokers could usefully buy stock in hair spray, I suppose. Kind of useful to drown out any lingering subliminal idea of coffee and cigarettes. There IS indeed a link to the two tastes, though how scientifically verifiable the tastes of coffee and cigarettes would be, I don't know.

[farouk]

On 10/13/2023 at 5:43 PM, AFlameOfFire said:

There was no better combination than a morning ritual of nothing but coffee and cigarettes.

 

@AFlameOfFire So you mean for breakfast you ate nothing at all with your coffee in those days?