Seventieth Week?Seven Year Tribulation

[wordsower]

Thanks Shadow,

Like I said, it wasn't all mine, I just make a folder of notes on certain topics and keep them and keep studying....we'll figure it all out in Glory!

[BlindSeeker]

Blindseeker,

I think "When the fullness of time had come, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the law, to reedem those who were under the law that we might receive the adoption of sons, and because you are sons, God has sent forth the Spirit of His Son into you hearts, crying out, "Abba, Father!" Gal. 4:4-6

[wordsower]

WordSower,

Actually, I think Gal. 4:4-6 only adds to the question, for I can again ask, What was the "time" whose "fullness of" had come which Paul was referring? Certainly the "time" was predetermined by God, and as God stated, "Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets."

Was that not what God did for Daniel? Reveal a time line? Why would not Daniel's time line be the "time" Jesus was referring to when He stated "the time is fulfilled?" Do you view that as inconceivable?

Galations does indeed answers why God sent forth His Son, "that we might receive the adoption of sons . . . " but not what the "time" fulfilled was. That is my question, "What was the time which was fulfilled?"

Seeing as to how the only prophetic time line mentioned concerning when Messiah would come is in Daniel 9, why wouldn't it be the exact "time" Jesus was speaking of?

Peace,

William

Blindseeker,

Forgive me for not understanding you exactly. I think it is a good question and I hope we are on the same page here.

Eph. 1:10 "That in the dispensation of the fullness of the times He might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven and which are on earth-in Him."

2 Tim. 1:9-10 "who has saved us and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to His own purpose and grace which was given to us in Christ Jesus before time began, but has now been revealed by the appearing of our Savior Jesus Christ, who has abolished death and brought life and immortality to light through the gospel.

So, for my understanding, the fullness of time in the birth and ministry of Christ is the reconciliation of mankind to God. The only way we could again have a relationship with Him. Prior to this the people were separated from God, the High Priest could go into the Holy of Holies but even he had a rope tied to his ankle unless he died in there. After the fullness of time we (believers) were filled with the Holy Spirit, we became the temple and have direct-very direct access to God.

Daniel 9 being in the same timeline makes no sense to me as there is too much there that hasn't happened, the end shall be with a flood, he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week, bring an end to sacrifice, seal up vision and prophesy, bring in everlasting righteousness.....how do you count these as happened?

If I'm not understanding your question let me know. I may be in over my head, I had too much false doctrine pumped into me about this and it's hard to sort it all out.

Blessings!

[BlindSeeker]

. . . . Daniel 9 being in the same timeline makes no sense to me as there is too much there that hasn't happened, the end shall be with a flood, he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week, bring an end to sacrifice,

[wordsower]

I read it and I have to say it sounds like SDA doctrine to me. Remind me again what exactly it is that you disagree on with the SDA's???

[BlindSeeker]

I read it and I have to say it sounds like SDA doctrine to me. Remind me again what exactly it is that you disagree on with the SDA's???

It's not. It is from my own study of God's word. Only visited SDA 3 times in 32 some years of believing. I'm not one.

Too much to document.

Peace

[Guest prodigaldaughter]

Daniel 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

Ok...ya got me wondering on this section, along with many others, but will take this one first.

and the end thereof shall be with a flood,

What flood? Can't be The Flood as in Noah's day, can it??? Surely not, as the Messiah had not come yet.

I am a slow learner, so I will go back and study the conversation and return with my other questions, as I have always understood it to be as the "gap" between the 69th and 70th week....Oh, I am soooo unlearned. :upsided:

[Guest prodigaldaughter]

It appears you guys or gals are very intelligent. I have a lot of miles on me, but the knowledge I have is no where near ya'll. I was very much enjoying the posting regarding this particular subject, until....I got to the ego's/pride/self's that interrupted your wonderful conversation.

I am new to this board and am very interested in the topics but am sorry to see the little tiffs interjected here and there...it takes away from the intent.

Please forgive me if I appear too forward, that is not my intention, just wanted to let you know there are a few, or maybe just one (me), searching and seeking for other views. This being my only source of "fellowship".

Now, you have really set off a big :lightbulb: . I am not so sure of my previous thoughts regarding the 70th week.

If this has already happened, then, where are we now, in the time frame of revelations. I had understood the abomination of desolution was just before Jesus returning.

Oh, My, it is so late and soo much to study and think about.

Looking forward to further discussions.

Lord Bless and Keep each one of you safe and secure.

[Guest shadow2b]

It appears you guys or gals are very intelligent. I have a lot of miles on me, but the knowledge I have is no where near ya'll. I was very much enjoying the posting regarding this particular subject, until....I got to the ego's/pride/self's that interrupted your wonderful conversation.

I am new to this board and am very interested in the topics but am sorry to see the little tiffs interjected here and there...it takes away from the intent.

Please forgive me if I appear too forward, that is not my intention, just wanted to let you know there are a few, or maybe just one (me), searching and seeking for other views. This being my only source of "fellowship".

Now, you have really set off a big :lightbulb: . I am not so sure of my previous thoughts regarding the 70th week.

If this has already happened, then, where are we now, in the time frame of revelations. I had understood the abomination of desolution was just before Jesus returning.

Oh, My, it is so late and soo much to study and think about.

Looking forward to further discussions.

Lord Bless and Keep each one of you safe and secure.

prodigal-----WELCOME--HOME----&-GOD-BLESS-YOU---- ------sometimes WE-ALL--state our views rather "forcefully" &/or- adamantly--but this isNOT {ego--PRIDE-self {fleshly}-----SO, {in my opinion}

perhaps adverse conclusions on the topic under discussion & those giving their understanding i.e.-or teaching

on the subject is slightly or greatly different from poster to poster, I doNOT consider them as being egotistical

prideful---full of self----these errant conclusions should be reserved until a later date & perhaps the understanding of the different posters reasons for being forcefull would become less "ego-prideful-self"----only a strong belief in their position----- :il: ----IT'S poss--I-bbbbbbbLLLLLeeeee------GOD-BLESS----{Gary}

[wordsower]

Prodigaldaughter,

We disagree but we love eachother!

I do not think that this 70th week is completed, I can't reconcile it with scripture, I am willing to study it out more though. That is what we should all do. I was raised and taught that the 70th week of Daniel had been completed but after studying on my own I no longer believe this. Study for yourself and bring us some points so we can all figure it out!