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[douggg]

41 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

The beast which persecutes the saints for 42 months in revelation 13 is the little horn which persecutes the saints for 42 months.

I suggest you pay better attention to what you read.

I suggest you pay better attention to what you read and make at list of events in chronological order.

The vision regarding the little horn, the daily sacrifice, the transgression desolation, events are 2300 days in length.

Daniel 8:

13 Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?

14 And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.

 

 

[Shilohsfoal]

9 hours ago, douggg said:

I suggest you pay better attention to what you read and make at list of events in chronological order.

The vision regarding the little horn, the daily sacrifice, the transgression desolation, events are 2300 days in length.

Daniel 8:

13 Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?

14 And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.

 

 

False

The events of the daily sacrifice and the abomination of desolation is 1290 days in length.

Daniel 12:11

From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days.

 

 

[douggg]

11 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

False

The events of the daily sacrifice and the abomination of desolation is 1290 days in length.

Daniel 12:11

From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days.

 

 

Daniel 8:13 says "transgression of desolation", not abomination of desolation.

The difference is .....

 

The 2Thessalonians2:4 act of going into the temple, sitting, claiming to have achieved God-hood -  "the transgression of desolation"

The person killed for the act, and brought back to life to become the beast-king.

 

The making of the statue image of the beast king in Revelation 13 and it being placed on the temple mount - "the abomination of desolation"

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The 2300 days span from when the daily sacrifices begin again - and ends when Jesus returns to remove those things which will have made the temple desolate.

The things to be removed from the temple mount at Jesus's return are the beast-king, the false prophet, the statue image, and Satan.

 

Edited November 10, 2023 by douggg

[Shilohsfoal]

2 hours ago, douggg said:

Daniel 8:13 says "transgression of desolation", not abomination of desolation.

The difference is .....

 

The 2Thessalonians2:4 act of going into the temple, sitting, claiming to have achieved God-hood -  "the transgression of desolation"

The person killed for the act, and brought back to life to become the beast-king.

 

The making of the statue image of the beast king in Revelation 13 and it being placed on the temple mount - "the abomination of desolation"

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The 2300 days span from when the daily sacrifices begin again - and ends when Jesus returns to remove those things which will have made the temple desolate.

The things to be removed from the temple mount at Jesus's return are the beast-king, the false prophet, the statue image, and Satan.

 

The United States armed forces are not going to make a stature to make Jerusalem desolation.

They put a nuke in Jerusalem to make it desolate. It will be such a terrifying site in the heavens that peoples heart will fail them.

 

²⁵ And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

²⁶ Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

²⁷ And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

 

 

 

 

The heavens will burn with a fervent heat and the elements shall be melted.There won't be much of anything left in Jerusalem except the saints who are indestructible.

[douggg]

8 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

The United States armed forces are not going to make a stature to make Jerusalem desolation.

They put a nuke in Jerusalem to make it desolate. It will be such a terrifying site in the heavens that peoples heart will fail them.

 

²⁵ And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

²⁶ Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

²⁷ And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

 

 

 

 

The heavens will burn with a fervent heat and the elements shall be melted.There won't be much of anything left in Jerusalem except the saints who are indestructible.

It is not Jerusalem that is made desolate, but the temple.    Desolate from worship and praise of the One True God.

[Shilohsfoal]

3 hours ago, douggg said:

It is not Jerusalem that is made desolate, but the temple.    Desolate from worship and praise of the One True God.

 

If God had wanted that old building sitting in Jerusalem,it would still be sitting there to this day.Istead,God had it destroyed by those he had given authority to destroy it.

 

John 4:

²⁰ Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship.

²¹ Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.

²² Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.

²³ But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

²⁴ God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

[douggg]

7 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

 

If God had wanted that old building sitting in Jerusalem,it would still be sitting there to this day.Istead,God had it destroyed by those he had given authority to destroy it.

 

John 4:

²⁰ Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship.

²¹ Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.

²² Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.

²³ But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

²⁴ God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

No, you are wrong.    And those verses are not saying that another temple will not be built.

The daily sacrifice of the two lambs can only be done when a temple is standing.    The little horn person will stop the daily sacrifice and then commits the transgression of desolation - the act of sitting in the temple, claiming to have achieved God-hood, i.e. magnifying himself.

 

Daniel 8:11 Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary was cast down.

 

 

[Shilohsfoal]

4 hours ago, douggg said:

No, you are wrong.    And those verses are not saying that another temple will not be built.

The daily sacrifice of the two lambs can only be done when a temple is standing.    The little horn person will stop the daily sacrifice and then commits the transgression of desolation - the act of sitting in the temple, claiming to have achieved God-hood, i.e. magnifying himself.

 

Daniel 8:11 Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary was cast down.

 

 

The daily sacrifice will be abolished before your eyes and you still won't see it.

[douggg]

2 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

The daily sacrifice will be abolished before your eyes and you still won't see it.

If there is no temple, the daily sacrifice of the two lambs will not be taking place.    The Jews in Israel are wanting to rebuild their temple.

In Judaism, there is the belief that the messiah will build the next temple.    The little horn of Daniel 8, following Gog/Magog as the prince who shall come, will be perceived to be the messiah (becoming the Antichrist) and will partake in building the next temple.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

6 hours ago, douggg said:

If there is no temple, the daily sacrifice of the two lambs will not be taking place.    The Jews in Israel are wanting to rebuild their temple.

In Judaism, there is the belief that the messiah will build the next temple.    The little horn of Daniel 8, following Gog/Magog as the prince who shall come, will be perceived to be the messiah (becoming the Antichrist) and will partake in building the next temple.

 

There are three Jews who want to built a temple.Do you even know who most Jews worship in Israel?

Edited November 12, 2023 by Shilohsfoal