R. Hartono Posted December 5, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 771 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,937 Content Per Day: 3.07 Reputation: 1,979 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted December 5, 2023 (edited) https://sacred-texts.com/bib/boe/boe018.htm They are the spirits of Nephilim killed by the Noah deluge. https://biblehub.com/text/genesis/6-4.htm https://sacred-texts.com/bib/boe/boe012.htm Edited December 8, 2023 by R. Hartono Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrobyter Posted December 6, 2023 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 9 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,588 Content Per Day: 1.07 Reputation: 2,444 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/28/2007 Status: Online Birthday: 10/28/1957 Share Posted December 6, 2023 Shalom, R. Hartono. Nfaliym is an OCCUPATION, not a people! They were the WOOD-CUTTERS - LUMBERJACKS - before and after the Flood! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted December 6, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 771 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,937 Content Per Day: 3.07 Reputation: 1,979 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted December 6, 2023 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Retrobyter said: Shalom, R. Hartono. Nfaliym is an OCCUPATION, not a people! They were the WOOD-CUTTERS - LUMBERJACKS - before and after the Flood! The Bible refer to Nephilim as Giants https://biblehub.com/text/genesis/6-4.htm https://biblehub.com/hebrew/strongs_5303.htm Edited December 6, 2023 by R. Hartono Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrobyter Posted December 6, 2023 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 9 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,588 Content Per Day: 1.07 Reputation: 2,444 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/28/2007 Status: Online Birthday: 10/28/1957 Share Posted December 6, 2023 53 minutes ago, R. Hartono said: The Bible refer to Nephilim as Giants https://biblehub.com/text/genesis/6-4.htm https://biblehub.com/hebrew/strongs_5303.htm Genesis 6:4 uses the word, and that word was translated into the KJV as "giants," but the word is a HEBREW word: Here's the Hebrew text of Genesis 6:4: הַנְּפִלִ֞ים הָי֣וּ בָאָרֶץ֮ בַּיָּמִ֣ים הָהֵם֒ וְגַ֣ם אַֽחֲרֵי־כֵ֗ן אֲשֶׁ֨ר יָבֹ֜אוּ בְּנֵ֤י הָֽאֱלֹהִים֙ אֶל־בְּנֹ֣ות הָֽאָדָ֔ם וְיָלְד֖וּ לָהֶ֑ם הֵ֧מָּה הַגִּבֹּרִ֛ים אֲשֶׁ֥ר מֵעֹולָ֖ם אַנְשֵׁ֥י הַשֵּֽׁם׃ פ This is transliterated as ... 4 Hannfiliym haayuw baa'aarets bayyaamiym haaheem vgam 'achareey-keen 'asher yaaVo'uw bneey haa'elohiym 'el-bnowt haa'aadaam vyaalduw laahem heemmaah haggiboriym 'asher mee`owlaam 'ansheey hashsheem: P This is translated word-for-word into English as ... 4 The-fellers were in/on-the-earth in-the-days those and-also after-that when came-in sons of-the-God to-daughters of-the-red-[man] and-bear-children to-them those-[were] the-mighty-ones who from-vanishing-point men those-of-name/of-renown: [end of thought] Strong gives us this definition for the first word in the verse: 5303 nfiyliym (Nephilim) [plural of] נְפִיל (nef-eel'). Or nphil {nef-eel'}; from naphal; properly, a feller, i.e. A bully or tyrant: -- giant. A "feller" is one who "fells" trees for a living. It is an ACTIVE word, not PASSIVE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FJK Posted December 6, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 43 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 3,349 Content Per Day: 7.92 Reputation: 1,305 Days Won: 1 Joined: 03/01/2023 Status: Offline Share Posted December 6, 2023 9 hours ago, Retrobyter said: Nfaliym is an OCCUPATION, not a people! They were the WOOD-CUTTERS - LUMBERJACKS - before and after the Flood! Interesting, something I've never heard stated before and would like to learn more about. How, or where, would I find support for this (the lumberjack thing)? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who me Posted December 6, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 17 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,300 Content Per Day: 1.72 Reputation: 1,685 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/27/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted December 6, 2023 17 hours ago, R. Hartono said: https://sacred-texts.com/bib/boe/boe018.htm They are the spirits of Nephilim killed by the Noah deluge. Where in the bible are we taught that spirits of the dead roam the earth? The bible teaches that the spirits of the dead are in an afterlife awaiting the day of judgement. So stop reading the book of Enoch and concentrate on the bible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AFlameOfFire Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 12 hours ago, FJK said: Interesting, something I've never heard stated before and would like to learn more about. How, or where, would I find support for this (the lumberjack thing)? Ever hear the story of Paul Bunyan? He was GIANT lumberjack, a big tree FELLER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FJK Posted December 7, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 43 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 3,349 Content Per Day: 7.92 Reputation: 1,305 Days Won: 1 Joined: 03/01/2023 Status: Offline Share Posted December 7, 2023 52 minutes ago, AFlameOfFire said: Ever hear the story of Paul Bunyan? That was fictional and well past the days of the flood. But it was a good story anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted December 7, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 771 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,937 Content Per Day: 3.07 Reputation: 1,979 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted December 7, 2023 (edited) On 12/6/2023 at 1:47 PM, Retrobyter said: Genesis 6:4 uses the word, and that word was translated into the KJV as "giants," but the word is a HEBREW word: Here's the Hebrew text of Genesis 6:4: הַנְּפִלִ֞ים הָי֣וּ בָאָרֶץ֮ בַּיָּמִ֣ים הָהֵם֒ וְגַ֣ם אַֽחֲרֵי־כֵ֗ן אֲשֶׁ֨ר יָבֹ֜אוּ בְּנֵ֤י הָֽאֱלֹהִים֙ אֶל־בְּנֹ֣ות הָֽאָדָ֔ם וְיָלְד֖וּ לָהֶ֑ם הֵ֧מָּה הַגִּבֹּרִ֛ים אֲשֶׁ֥ר מֵעֹולָ֖ם אַנְשֵׁ֥י הַשֵּֽׁם׃ פ This is transliterated as ... 4 Hannfiliym haayuw baa'aarets bayyaamiym haaheem vgam 'achareey-keen 'asher yaaVo'uw bneey haa'elohiym 'el-bnowt haa'aadaam vyaalduw laahem heemmaah haggiboriym 'asher mee`owlaam 'ansheey hashsheem: P This is translated word-for-word into English as ... 4 The-fellers were in/on-the-earth in-the-days those and-also after-that when came-in sons of-the-God to-daughters of-the-red-[man] and-bear-children to-them those-[were] the-mighty-ones who from-vanishing-point men those-of-name/of-renown: [end of thought] Strong gives us this definition for the first word in the verse: 5303 nfiyliym (Nephilim) [plural of] נְפִיל (nef-eel'). Or nphil {nef-eel'}; from naphal; properly, a feller, i.e. A bully or tyrant: -- giant. A "feller" is one who "fells" trees for a living. It is an ACTIVE word, not PASSIVE! Why wud Bible mention Woodcutter as if something important before the flood that must be written ? Everybody can cut Wood. @AFlameOfFire @FJK Edited December 7, 2023 by R. Hartono 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted December 7, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 771 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,937 Content Per Day: 3.07 Reputation: 1,979 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted December 7, 2023 13 hours ago, Who me said: Where in the bible are we taught that spirits of the dead roam the earth? The bible teaches that the spirits of the dead are in an afterlife awaiting the day of judgement. So stop reading the book of Enoch and concentrate on the bible. There are many haunted places that took many victims on earth, i saw that but you wont believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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