Rev 16:18 suggests the earth is much older than Adam/Eve

[RV_Wizard]

1 hour ago, FreeGrace said:

You need to accept the FACT that Ex 20:11 isn't about creation, but the restoration.

Why would I accept a lie?  God never said He restored anything.  He said He created it.

1 hour ago, FreeGrace said:

Gen 1:1 is original creation

Genesis 1:1 is a summary statement about the entire creation.  You DO have a problem with language.

1 hour ago, FreeGrace said:

I wasn't referring to the tablets that God literally wrote on.

You said that Moses wrote Exodus 20:11, when in fact is part of the commandments God personally inscribed on stone tablets.

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9 hours ago, RV_Wizard said:

FreeGrace said: 

You need to accept the FACT that Ex 20:11 isn't about creation, but the restoration.

Why would I accept a lie?

I never asked you to accept a lie.  That's what Satan wants Christians to do.  To look stupid.

9 hours ago, RV_Wizard said:

  God never said He restored anything.  He said He created it.

God said that in Gen 1:1 - "In the beginning, God CREATED (BARA) the heavens and earth".  That's WHERE He said it.

In Ex 20:11 Moses wrote that "in 6 days God MADE (ASAH) the heavens and earth".

But you are purposely ignoring the FACT that 'asah' and 'bara' are NOT the same word and don't mean the same thing.

And God DID tell man that He restored the planet before He put man on it, by the words "tohu wabohu".  

I imagine that you are really hating the Hebrew by now, since it refutes your theory.

9 hours ago, RV_Wizard said:

Genesis 1:1 is a summary statement about the entire creation.  You DO have a problem with language.

No, you do.  I have shown how tohu wabohu is used throughout the OT and it is NEVER about construction but ALWAYS about destruction.  And you just purposely ignore that FACT.

Oh, and speaking of ignoring FACTS, Isa 45:18 says that God did NOT create (bara) the earth TOHU. 

But your fav KJV translation says, in the beginning, God created (bara) the heavens and earth and the earth was TOHU.

That is a direct contradiction.  So your theory contains a glaring contradiction and you seem totally ok with that.

But there is nothing ok with that.

9 hours ago, RV_Wizard said:

You said that Moses wrote Exodus 20:11, when in fact is part of the commandments God personally inscribed on stone tablets.

Are you serious?  Moses wrote in Exodus what God wrote on stone tablets.  

And here you are trying to insinuate that God wrote Exodus.

Yes, the Holy Spirit has inspired ALL of the writers of Scripture to write what they did.

But you just keep missing the point every time.

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6 hours ago, FreeGrace said:

I never asked you to accept a lie.

You're trying to get everyone to accept a lie.  You're inventing new theology because Jeremiah quoted Genesis.  Again:

God’s judgment burns up his people like a scorching desert wind (11-12). As Jeremiah pictures the enemy’s horses and chariots sweeping across the northern frontier, he makes a last desperate plea to the Jerusalemites to repent (13-14). He sees the invasion forces moving down from Dan, crossing Ephraim’s mountains, spreading over the country and besieging cities as they head for their main prize, Jerusalem. The people of Judah have brought this disaster upon themselves because of the way they have lived. They are about to reap the fruits of their ungodliness and idolatry (15-18).
Jeremiah can scarcely bear to look at the scene of destruction, and cries out in his distress (19-21). God assures him that the judgment is just. In their stupidity the people have rejected God and devoted themselves to wrongdoing. Now they are suffering the consequences (22).
To the prophet it seems that, with the fall of Judah, the earth has become barren, waste, dark and silent (23-26). God’s judgment is so devastating that, were it not for his mercy, the people would be wiped out (27-28). In country towns people flee before the enemy and look for hiding places in forests and caves (29). Jerusalem tries to win favour with the enemy, as a prostitute tries to win the favour of lovers, but the enemy is not fooled. Jerusalem’s end is as horrible as that of a brutally murdered prostitute; her screams are as piercing as those of a woman in agonizing childbirth (30-31).  source

There is no mention of an existence prior to Genesis 1, nor of any restoration, nor of anything you post.  The only thing that agrees with you is your own tortured misinterpretation of the Bible, which NOBODY here believes but you.

6 hours ago, FreeGrace said:

And God DID tell man that He restored the planet before He put man on it, by the words "tohu wabohu".

Genesis 1:1 says, “In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.”  It's the same word used when my wife created for me a banana split.  Therefore, according to the Bible, the earth was a banana split.  

6 hours ago, FreeGrace said:

Are you serious?  Moses wrote in Exodus what God wrote on stone tablets.  

If I copy something that you wrote, does that mean that I wrote it?  If so, I'm going to copy the Star Wars script and become a millionaire.  Exodus 20:11 reveals the words of God, not Moses.  It was God that said He created the heavens, the earth and all of life in six days.  You can call Him a liar when you meet Him.

 

 

Edited March 17, 2024 by RV_Wizard

[FreeGrace]

3 hours ago, RV_Wizard said:

You're trying to get everyone to accept a lie.  You're inventing new theology because Jeremiah quoted Genesis.

Well, now, you are lying.  A lie is saying something that you KNOW is not true.  I am more than convinced that God restored the earth.  

I am more than convinced that Gen 1:2 isn't about original creation.

3 hours ago, RV_Wizard said:

  Again:

God’s judgment burns up his people like a scorching desert wind (11-12). As Jeremiah pictures the enemy’s horses and chariots sweeping across the northern frontier, he makes a last desperate plea to the Jerusalemites to repent (13-14). He sees the invasion forces moving down from Dan, crossing Ephraim’s mountains, spreading over the country and besieging cities as they head for their main prize, Jerusalem. The people of Judah have brought this disaster upon themselves because of the way they have lived. They are about to reap the fruits of their ungodliness and idolatry (15-18).
Jeremiah can scarcely bear to look at the scene of destruction, and cries out in his distress (19-21). God assures him that the judgment is just. In their stupidity the people have rejected God and devoted themselves to wrongdoing. Now they are suffering the consequences (22).
To the prophet it seems that, with the fall of Judah, the earth has become barren, waste, dark and silent (23-26). God’s judgment is so devastating that, were it not for his mercy, the people would be wiped out (27-28). In country towns people flee before the enemy and look for hiding places in forests and caves (29). Jerusalem tries to win favour with the enemy, as a prostitute tries to win the favour of lovers, but the enemy is not fooled. Jerusalem’s end is as horrible as that of a brutally murdered prostitute; her screams are as piercing as those of a woman in agonizing childbirth (30-31).  source

Great, your "source" again.  Just trying to distance tohu wabohu from what it really  means.  How can any kind of destruction be used to describe God's creation.  

That is the very essence of insanity and nonsense.

3 hours ago, RV_Wizard said:

There is no mention of an existence prior to Genesis 1, nor of any restoration, nor of anything you post.

You've got to open your eyes to see what is in front of your face.  I never said anything about "an existence PRIOR to Genesis 1".  Why do you insist on making up such junk?

Gen 1:1 IS original creation.  And tohu wabohu PROVES that the earth became an uninhabitable wasteland, whether you agree or not.

3 hours ago, RV_Wizard said:

  The only thing that agrees with you is your own tortured misinterpretation of the Bible, which NOBODY here believes but you.

But you can't show ANY example of any kind of misinterpretation.  

3 hours ago, RV_Wizard said:

Genesis 1:1 says, “In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.”  It's the dame word used when my wife created for me a banana split.  Therefore, according to the Bible, the earth was a banana split.

Now you're just babbling nonsense.  I'm not sure what you are referring to here.

What, exactly, is the dame (same) word your wife uses?  "created"??  Get real.  In the Hebrew, bara means to create out of nothing.  So, if your wife has such godly traits so as to create out of nothing a banana split, please send her my way, because I love banana splits.  You're trying to make the English word "create" to equal the Hebrew word 'bara' and it DOESN'T WORK.  But, you are desperate, obviously.

3 hours ago, RV_Wizard said:

  If I copy something that you wrote, does that mean that I wrote it?

If you claim that you wrote it, you'd be plagiarizing, which will get you into trouble, unless your name is Biden.

3 hours ago, RV_Wizard said:

  If so, I'm going to copy the Star Wars script and become a millionaire.

Sorry, but the money has already been made.  And the authors of SW gonna sue the suit off you.  You'd better have a back up wardrobe.

3 hours ago, RV_Wizard said:

  Exodus 20:11 reveals the words of God, not Moses.

Didn't you see where I SAID that all of the Bible was inspired by the Holy Spirit, including what Moses wrote?  Why are you being so difficult and apparently dense?

3 hours ago, RV_Wizard said:

  It was God that said He created the heavens, the earth and all of life in six days.  You can call Him a liar when you meet Him.

Yes, Gen 1:1 does say that.  And Moses wrote that beause of the inspiration by the Holy Spirit.  

So why are you STILL rejecting the meaning of "bara" in favor of "asah" which ISN'T in v.1?

As Jesse Watters says, "get it together".  I concur.

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26 minutes ago, FreeGrace said:

 A lie is saying something that you KNOW is not true.  I am more than convinced that God restored the earth.  

Then you are repeating a lie.  Most major lies come from Satan, not from man.  That includes evolution and the gap theory.

27 minutes ago, FreeGrace said:

Just trying to distance tohu wabohu from what it really  means.

How DARE experts in the language contradict what you wish to believe!

28 minutes ago, FreeGrace said:

I never said anything about "an existence PRIOR to Genesis 1"

Pray tell, how is there a re-creation of a failed creation without a prior creation?

29 minutes ago, FreeGrace said:

 But, you are desperate, obviously.

Now, I'm poking fun at foolishness.

29 minutes ago, FreeGrace said:

If you claim that you wrote it, you'd be plagiarizing, which will get you into trouble, unless your name is Biden.

Fortunately, Moses said they were written by God.  It's easily documented if you use Al Gore's internet.  of course, you don't HAVE to be a liar to be a Democrat.  You just support those who are.

31 minutes ago, FreeGrace said:

Sorry, but the money has already been made.  And the authors of SW gonna sue the suit off you.

The Force be with me.

32 minutes ago, FreeGrace said:

Why are you being so difficult

Moses didn't write Exodus 20:11.  He copied down what God wrote.  The Commandments weren't written by men inspired by God, they were written by God.

33 minutes ago, FreeGrace said:

And Moses wrote that beause of the inspiration by the Holy Spirit.  

He copied it down because God wrote it.  Scrolls transport easier than stone tablets.  The tablets are in the Ark of the Covenant.

 

[FreeGrace]

38 minutes ago, RV_Wizard said:

Then you are repeating a lie. 

Still wrong.  I have proved what I believe, from the Bible.  What have you proved?  Nothing from God's actual word, but only from a poorly translated KJV.

38 minutes ago, RV_Wizard said:

Most major lies come from Satan, not from man.  That includes evolution and the gap theory.

Actually, the real time gap is not theory, as I've proven.  I fully agree that evolution is a lie from Satan.  

38 minutes ago, RV_Wizard said:

How DARE experts in the language contradict what you wish to believe!

Actually, they are the ones who convinced me!  I merely saw how the translators rendered "tohu" in all the other verses, and that is why I am convinced that God restored a wasteland.

38 minutes ago, RV_Wizard said:

Pray tell, how is there a re-creation of a failed creation without a prior creation?

Your sentences make no sense at all.  There is NO "re-creation", so please quit making up stuff I've never said.  All that shows is your dishonesty.

And there was NO "failed creation".  What garbage!  

I've never said anything like what you make up.  What is your problem?  Other than failing to read properly.  But that's what dishonest people do;  twist what others say to make them look bad.

But anyone who has followed this thread knows better than the junk you make up.

38 minutes ago, RV_Wizard said:

Now, I'm poking fun at foolishness.

That would be yourself.  Find a mirror.

38 minutes ago, RV_Wizard said:

Fortunately, Moses said they were written by God.  It's easily documented if you use Al Gore's internet.  of course, you don't HAVE to be a liar to be a Democrat.  You just support those who are.

You're getting very tired.

38 minutes ago, RV_Wizard said:

The Force be with me.

I didn't know you bought all that garbage from SW.

38 minutes ago, RV_Wizard said:

Moses didn't write Exodus 20:11.  He copied down what God wrote.  The Commandments weren't written by men inspired by God, they were written by God.

You still have no point.  And since you seem totally unable to understand the difference between asah and bara, there's no use to even try to explain it over and over to you.  You're not listening, nor do you want to learn anything.

38 minutes ago, RV_Wizard said:

He copied it down because God wrote it.  Scrolls transport easier than stone tablets.  The tablets are in the Ark of the Covenant.

When a person is copying something down, that means they are WRITING down something.  Everyone knows that.

So you still have no point.

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4 hours ago, FreeGrace said:

 I have proved what I believe, from the Bible.  What have you proved?  Nothing from God's actual word, but only from a poorly translated KJV.

The Bible IS God's word.  You believe nonsense based on an improper understanding of a reference to Genesis that Jeremiah made in describing a desolate world.  You pretend that it means the world existed prior to genesis 1:2, and fell into chaos.  Despite the fact that there is absolutely no Biblical validation for that, you pretend it is the true word of God.  Nobody's buying it.

4 hours ago, FreeGrace said:

I merely saw how the translators rendered "tohu" in all the other verses, and that is why I am convinced that God restored a wasteland.

It didn't take much to make you a teacher of false heresies.  Here is what the experts told me.  For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten son, that whosoever believeth on Him shall not perish, but have everlasting life.  SO  take this truth and win souls for Jesus.  Become a champion For God's word, not a false teacher against it.

4 hours ago, FreeGrace said:

 There is NO "re-creation",

Exactly.  so stop spreading the heresy and let's get back to praising Jesus.

4 hours ago, FreeGrace said:

You're getting very tired.

I am VERY tired of liberals, the "woke" people, and of those who push false doctrine that the Scriptures do not support.  

4 hours ago, FreeGrace said:

When a person is copying something down, that means they are WRITING down something.

When a person copies something someone else has written he doesn't get credit as the author.  Moses is the author of most of the first four chapters of the Bible.  God is the author of the Ten Commandments.  Therefore, there can be no error in them.

[FreeGrace]

11 hours ago, RV_Wizard said:

FreeGrace said:

 I have proved what I believe, from the Bible.  What have you proved?  Nothing from God's actual word, but only from a poorly translated KJV.

The Bible IS God's word. 

And some translations FAIL to get words right.  Which are NOT God's Word.

11 hours ago, RV_Wizard said:

You believe nonsense based on an improper understanding of a reference to Genesis that Jeremiah made in describing a desolate world.

You just keep showcasing your inability to grasp simple truths. You haven't shown that my understanding is improper, but you HAVE shown that yours is.

11 hours ago, RV_Wizard said:

  You pretend that it means the world existed prior to genesis 1:2, and fell into chaos. 

There is nothing to pretend.  It's all in the original Hebrew, which you reject in favor of the KJV and most other English translations.

However, there are 5 among the one on biblehub.com that got Gen 1:2 correct.

Genesis 1:2  tohu wabohu is translated in red

American Standard Version

And the earth was waste and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep: and the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

Darby Bible Translation

And the earth was waste and empty, and darkness was on the face of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.

English Revised Version

And the earth was waste and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep: and the spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

Young's Literal Translation

the earth hath existed waste and void, and darkness is on the face of the deep, and the Spirit of God fluttering on the face of the waters,

Brenton Septuagint Version

But the earth was unsightly and unfurnished, and darkness was over the deep, and the Spirit of God moved over the water.

These 5 translation render “tohu” as “waste (4)/unsightly.  This cannot be applied to original creation.

And there's nothing you can do about it.  No one knows what happened.  But it is clear that something DID happen that required God to restore the earth before He created man.  That is not a difficult concept to understand.

11 hours ago, RV_Wizard said:

Despite the fact that there is absolutely no Biblical validation for that, you pretend it is the true word of God.

The original Hebrew itself validates it because it SAYS it.

11 hours ago, RV_Wizard said:

  Nobody's buying it.

What an absurd comment, since many many people DO understand what the original Hebrew means.  And the 5 English translations that DO understand what "tohu" means.

11 hours ago, RV_Wizard said:

It didn't take much to make you a teacher of false heresies.

Does anyone care about your opinions?  Might as well keep them to yourself.  All you make it weird and absurd comments.  And you haven't proven any of them.

11 hours ago, RV_Wizard said:

  Here is what the experts told me.  For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten son, that whosoever believeth on Him shall not perish, but have everlasting life.  SO  take this truth and win souls for Jesus.  Become a champion For God's word, not a false teacher against it.

The "false teacher" is the one who holds onto a dogmatic idea IN SPITE of what the original Hebrew means, even after being shown ALL the evidence.

11 hours ago, RV_Wizard said:

Exactly.  so stop spreading the heresy and let's get back to praising Jesus.

I am defending the truth of God's word, unlike yourself.

11 hours ago, RV_Wizard said:

I am VERY tired of liberals, the "woke" people, and of those who push false doctrine that the Scriptures do not support.

Once again you make absurd opinions.  Are you so thick that you think that liberals and the idiotic woke people claim that God spoke the universe and earth into existence in a single breath (Gen 1:1)?  That liberals even acknowledge that God created the earth and mankind?

Trying to put me in that group only showcases your own inadequacies about comprehension.

11 hours ago, RV_Wizard said:

  When a person copies something someone else has written he doesn't get credit as the author.

Your comprehension problems are massive.  I've already acknowledged that the Holy Spirit (God) inspired ALL of the human writers.  Why don't you just move on?

11 hours ago, RV_Wizard said:

  Moses is the author of most of the first four chapters of the Bible.  God is the author of the Ten Commandments.  Therefore, there can be no error in them.

You seem beyond help.

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57 minutes ago, FreeGrace said:

some translations FAIL to get words right

Yes, yours.  They introduce new theology, which is the definition of hetresy.

57 minutes ago, FreeGrace said:

You haven't shown that my understanding is improper

We all have.  You simply refuse to listen.

58 minutes ago, FreeGrace said:

 It's all in the original Hebrew, which you reject in favor of the KJV and most other English translations.

You can't quite seem to figure out that all the translations were from original Hebrew; Aramaic and Greek.

1 hour ago, FreeGrace said:

it is clear that something DID happen that required God to restore the earth before He created man.

NOT A SINGLE ONE OF YOUR TRANSLATIONS MENTIONS A PRIOR EXISTENCE.  IT'S ALL IN YOUR HEAD!!!

1 hour ago, FreeGrace said:

many people DO understand what the original Hebrew means.

Unfortunately, you do not.  As you recall, I posted a long list of translations that disagree with you, as do the ones you posted.  NOTHING you posted indicates an old earth that became a wasteland.  You are not accepting reality.  God made a planet ready to support life.  It contained elements that scientists claim took billions of years to form.  God did it all in six days.  

1 hour ago, FreeGrace said:

All you make it weird and absurd comments

When addressing a weird and absurd claim, it seems appropriate.

1 hour ago, FreeGrace said:

The "false teacher" is the one who holds onto a dogmatic idea IN SPITE of what the original Hebrew means

NO!  The false teacher is one who teaches doctrine contrary to the Scriptures.  This includes evolution, Gap theory, ancient earth, Islam, Buddhism, Mormonism, Scientology, Jehovah's Witness, Wiccan, Naturalism, the spontaneous auto-creation of the universe from nothingness, and the woke teachings of the churches displaying rainbow flags.

1 hour ago, FreeGrace said:

Are you so thick that you think that liberals and the idiotic woke people claim that God spoke the universe and earth into existence in a single breath

No, liberals have their own doctrine.  You notice there were three groups listed, not one.  Again, read first, then comment.  You're in the last group.  You, like others here, push false doctrine.

1 hour ago, FreeGrace said:

I've already acknowledged that the Holy Spirit (God) inspired ALL of the human writers.  

The problem is, you won't acknowledge that GOD is the author of the Ten Commandments; not Moses.  You see error in God's word because it doesn't conform to your own disbelief.

You cannot be educated by man.  Spend some time in God's Word.  He may reveal it to you.

 

[FreeGrace]

5 minutes ago, RV_Wizard said:

  FreeGrace said:

some translations FAIL to get words right

Yes, yours.

You fail to understand anything, even though I've thoroughly explained everything even with evidence.  The 5 translations I just shared DID get "tohu" right, even though they didn't know what happened.  And that doesn't matter.

We are supposed to BELIEVE what God writes, even when we aren't given details.
You "talk" about God's Word, but you only believe a flawed English translation.

5 minutes ago, RV_Wizard said:

  They introduce new theology, which is the definition of hetresy.

OK, what's the "theology" here?  Earth age isn't a theology.  It's simply a fact.

5 minutes ago, RV_Wizard said:

We all have.  You simply refuse to listen.

Oh, good grief.  What an absurd comment coming from the king of deaf.

5 minutes ago, RV_Wizard said:

You can't quite seem to figure out that all the translations were from original Hebrew; Aramaic and Greek.

Another hilariously absurd comment.  Of course I know that.  But it is you who rejects what the Hebrew actually means in Gen 1:2, and I proved what tohu means by showing YOU all the other places in the OT, and those translations cannot refer to creation.  waste/chaos/desolation/etc.

5 minutes ago, RV_Wizard said:

NOT A SINGLE ONE OF YOUR TRANSLATIONS MENTIONS A PRIOR EXISTENCE.  IT'S ALL IN YOUR HEAD!!!

I've never said a "prior existence" either.  So what is your absurd point?

5 minutes ago, RV_Wizard said:

As you recall, I posted a long list of translations that disagree with you, as do the ones you posted.

I've already pointed out that 5 of the 32 translations on biblehub.com got tohu right in Gen 1:2.  And I've already pointed out that most translations were lazy and just copied what the KJV wrote.

I've shown you over and over how "tohu" is translated throughout the OT.  The meaning describes destruction, not construction.

5 minutes ago, RV_Wizard said:

  NOTHING you posted indicates an old earth that became a wasteland.

That, unfortunately, is a stupid comment.  Of course I did.  Many times.

5 minutes ago, RV_Wizard said:

  You are not accepting reality.

Says Mr unreality, who thinks "formless" is a state of being.  lol

5 minutes ago, RV_Wizard said:

  God made a planet ready to support life.

I have no doubt of that as well.

5 minutes ago, RV_Wizard said:

  It contained elements that scientists claim took billions of years to form.  God did it all in six days.

I really don't understand the denseness here.  Gen 1:1 is a point in time statement.  And Psa 33:6,9 tell us HOW God created the universe.  By speaking it into existence in a moment.  One breath is obvious from the Psalms.  Your 6 day 'creation' is idiotic.

5 minutes ago, RV_Wizard said:

  When addressing a weird and absurd claim, it seems appropriate.

Your comments about your weird and absurd claims are always inappropriate, esp since I've given loads of evidence from Scripture and you have zero evidence.  Just opinions.

5 minutes ago, RV_Wizard said:

NO!  The false teacher is one who teaches doctrine contrary to the Scriptures.

You are that false teacher.  You've accepted a flawed translation and you have made it a dogma.  We aren't talking doctrine anyway.  Simply noting what the Hebrew means, which I've proved from the rest of the OT.

5 minutes ago, RV_Wizard said:

  This includes evolution, Gap theory, ancient earth, Islam, Buddhism, Mormonism, Scientology, Jehovah's Witness, Wiccan, Naturalism, the spontaneous auto-creation of the universe from nothingness, and the woke teachings of the churches displaying rainbow flags.

All you do is bring up irrelevant junk.  I reject all of this idiocy.  And there is no theory involving a time gap, as I've already explained thoroughly, but you either aren't able to comprehend it or you are too deep in your own dogma to hear.

5 minutes ago, RV_Wizard said:

No, liberals have their own doctrine.  You notice there were three groups listed, not one.  Again, read first, then comment.  You're in the last group.  You, like others here, push false doctrine.

I believe what the literal Hebrew of tohu is.  You don't.  You are dismissed.

5 minutes ago, RV_Wizard said:

The problem is, you won't acknowledge that GOD is the author of the Ten Commandments; not Moses.

Are you still on your seesaw?  Get off.  I've explained what I believe, and you just blowing smoke.

5 minutes ago, RV_Wizard said:

  You see error in God's word because it doesn't conform to your own disbelief.

Another wildly absurd comment.  The error is in English translations that ignore what tohu means and insert a very absurd word, "formless" which doesn't even exist.

5 minutes ago, RV_Wizard said:

You cannot be educated by man. 

And I don't want to be.  I want to be educated by God's Word, which you just keep rejecting, over the false dogma you have been taught.

5 minutes ago, RV_Wizard said:

Spend some time in God's Word.  He may reveal it to you.

I'll bet I spend more time in God's word than you do.  But it doesn't matter who spends more time.

You're a sucker for English translations that fail to translate properly.