The harlot church system is in bed with the Kings of the earth, and with the ways of the world.

[Marilyn C]

21 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said:

Well, I was thinking about a harlot system that goes back to Babel. That took that system around the globe with the Table of Nations. A form passed down through the centuries with different names in native languages until the fourth century A.D., converting it to a Roman church-state to this day.

A system wealthier than many nations, sitting on many waters, a system having success with ecumenicalism, getting the Protestors back under the umbrella of the universal church. Success with letters of agreement with Muslim sects.  

A leader of this religion that is holy and infallible never preaches Jesus, and the only way to Salvation but works and bizarre statements. You will enter heaven if you are a good person and do good works.

A system that works closely with the global agenda, such as socialism, open borders to eliminate national sovereignty, Mother Earth, and climate change initiatives (a political religion). A system new national leaders cannot wait to have a personal audience and talk with—the most prominent religious system in the world, with about 1.4 billion adherents and rapidly growing.

I do not think it will be Scientology. Maybe Monks or Wuism?

We need to remember that there are many religions as well as the RCC. Now they ALL, yes ALL come under the world religion of the United Nations. And that is of `Mother Earth.` `Save the Planet` `Climate Change` and all that comes with that religion.

The moral values that the world must adhere to are - respect, inclusive, tolerance, common good etc (of all sexual activity and made-up genders). You will be fined or put in jail if you don`t adhere to that world religion. People don`t seem to see it as a religion so that it goes undetected. However, the leaders of the nations love it for it is the means to control their population. It also looks like it will bring `peace, `(lamb-like) but we know that if a Christian speaks out against it, they will be vilified, cast out of their work, etc and become a social outcast.

[Dennis1209]

1 hour ago, Marilyn C said:

We need to remember that there are many religions as well as the RCC. Now they ALL, yes ALL come under the world religion of the United Nations. And that is of `Mother Earth.` `Save the Planet` `Climate Change` and all that comes with that religion.

The moral values that the world must adhere to are - respect, inclusive, tolerance, common good etc (of all sexual activity and made-up genders). You will be fined or put in jail if you don`t adhere to that world religion. People don`t seem to see it as a religion so that it goes undetected. However, the leaders of the nations love it for it is the means to control their population. It also looks like it will bring `peace, `(lamb-like) but we know that if a Christian speaks out against it, they will be vilified, cast out of their work, etc and become a social outcast.

I did my best not to disclose the domination I was thinking about; I guess it didn’t work, huh?

Of course, I thought it obvious and did not mention the United Nations; the Vatican has a non-voting seat, the Vatican, and the UN. Are working hand in glove.

Who was it that said, when asked about his position on homosexuality, “Who am I to judge?”

I agree you’re preaching to the choir, Marilyn, and it is rapidly shaping up. Now, by the week, things are getting very interesting. The sediment in that glass half-darkly settles to the bottom.

[Marilyn C]

8 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said:

I did my best not to disclose the domination I was thinking about; I guess it didn’t work, huh?

Of course, I thought it obvious and did not mention the United Nations; the Vatican has a non-voting seat, the Vatican, and the UN. Are working hand in glove.

Who was it that said, when asked about his position on homosexuality, “Who am I to judge?”

I agree you’re preaching to the choir, Marilyn, and it is rapidly shaping up. Now, by the week, things are getting very interesting. The sediment in that glass half-darkly settles to the bottom.

Great Dennis, it seems we are singing to the same hymnal. 

Another thought is that people are looking for a religious leader whereas we know that the 10 kings get rid of the world religion. Thus, the `false Prophet` I believe is a `Prophet` to the world. Say like the leader of the WEF, (World Economic Forum).

You see that has the two offices that God`s word tells us that the False Prophet presides over - Economic and religion. Thus, we can look for someone who is high up in the economic area and also in the `save the planet, & climate change ` and all that wokeness. 

[Starise]

I see that system as having been around for a very long time, but intensifying and blending with other ideas and entities. Consolidation is the way of control.

The players are all too obvious. We see the game developing. I see the world as having a conglomerate of religions all agreeing to bow to the head religion. This is already happening now.Christian churches mixed in there too. All apostate.

This has not been a blind effort as these sub systems have been working to bring this about for many years.

[Dennis1209]

13 minutes ago, Starise said:

I see that system as having been around for a very long time, but intensifying and blending with other ideas and entities. Consolidation is the way of control.

The players are all too obvious. We see the game developing. I see the world as having a conglomerate of religions all agreeing to bow to the head religion. This is already happening now.Christian churches mixed in there too. All apostate.

This has not been a blind effort as these sub systems have been working to bring this about for many years.

I have discussed it before, and it is too long of a discussion. We are seeing businesses, corporations, news media, social media, and global finance merge. I like the word oligarchies.

Today, we are constantly bombarded with TOS changes, everything from our banks to social media, Microsoft to Amazon. I took a lot of time reading a few of these; if I had read them all, I would not have had time for anything else.

Their changes all have the same theme: we work for them now if we want their services. If you want any privacy, you have to jump through hoops and opt out of this and that.

[Starise]

3 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said:

I have discussed it before, and it is too long of a discussion. We are seeing businesses, corporations, news media, social media, and global finance merge. I like the word oligarchies.

Today, we are constantly bombarded with TOS changes, everything from our banks to social media, Microsoft to Amazon. I took a lot of time reading a few of these; if I had read them all, I would not have had time for anything else.

Their changes all have the same theme: we work for them now if we want their services. If you want any privacy, you have to jump through hoops and opt out of this and that.

The screws are tightening as you say. We are in for some radical changes in the very near future. 

I will be in this as far as the Lord allows it, but not a second after.

[Guest AFlameOfFire]

27 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said:

I have discussed it before, and it is too long of a discussion. We are seeing businesses, corporations, news media, social media, and global finance merge. I like the word oligarchies.

Today, we are constantly bombarded with TOS changes, everything from our banks to social media, Microsoft to Amazon. I took a lot of time reading a few of these; if I had read them all, I would not have had time for anything else.

Their changes all have the same theme: we work for them now if we want their services. If you want any privacy, you have to jump through hoops and opt out of this and that.

Which ones were the worst Dennis1209? I have just pulled all my stuff offline, whereas my husbands stuff (banking credit etc) has never been uploaded online because he does nothing online (no shopping, or banking, or surfing online). I will shop at Amazon (only) now but that's basically what I have been squeezed down to. I decided to delete all credit card info online (and cancel any card that was online also) and now if I need to use Amazon I upload Amazon gift cards.

Although I am trying to find a way around buying a computer that needs a Microsoft account (rather than a local account). There are supposedly ways around it but they patch them as soon as they are found. When I had found 4 updated ways and none of them worked I had to send the computer back, I don't want it. What do you do? After that I began to clean everything off the internet (Ebay, Etsy, etc etc) so I wouldn't have any loose ends that need to be tied after I lose this (working) computer. I heard now you cannot even use a computer offline any more until you first link to a Microsoft account. Who would you  hire for a work around so you do not need to deal with Microsoft would you know? Or to build me a computer system that's not bloated with all the things they stuff it with (at their own will) at the manufacturer? 

[Stewardofthemystery]

8 hours ago, Dennis1209 said:

Well, I was thinking about a harlot system that goes back to Babel. That took that system around the globe with the Table of Nations. A form passed down through the centuries with different names in native languages until the fourth century A.D., converting it to a Roman church-state to this day.

A system wealthier than many nations, sitting on many waters, a system having success with ecumenicalism, getting the Protestors back under the umbrella of the universal church. Success with letters of agreement with Muslim sects.  

A leader of this religion that is holy and infallible never preaches Jesus, and the only way to Salvation but works and bizarre statements. You will enter heaven if you are a good person and do good works.

A system that works closely with the global agenda, such as socialism, open borders to eliminate national sovereignty, Mother Earth, and climate change initiatives (a political religion). A system new national leaders cannot wait to have a personal audience and talk with—the most prominent religious system in the world, with about 1.4 billion adherents and rapidly growing.

I do not think it will be Scientology. Maybe Monks or Wuism?

No doubt the Harlot system has been around before the RCC because she has sat on the heads of the 7 Kings/Kingdoms; 5 of which had already fallen at the time John received the Revelation.

Revelation 17:9-10

King James Version

9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.”

But I think the harlot religious system is much bigger than just the RCC, but it is working in both Judaism and Christianity among those who have left their first in the Lord and have played the harlot with the ways of the world.

 

Edited December 13, 2023 by Stewardofthemystery

[Stewardofthemystery]

This is why those who play the harlot with the ways of the world are to be burned with fire, per the prophetic law of God…

Leviticus 21:9

And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire.

[tatwo]

Greetings AFlameOfFire…

I feel compelled to interject here…because you look to be moving in a direction concerning the “beast & harlot” that is similar to what I have found…maybe there is a connection.

On 12/11/2023 at 10:25 AM, AFlameOfFire said:

So if some of the churches (apostate ones of course) be in bed with the kings of the earth, it would be like the same harlot system in the Revelation and that would start to become more and more evident?

I would say “yes” as my answer to your question. However if one were to look at this scenario just a bit differently…perhaps a deeper Truth is revealed?

Since the “harlot system” as you put it…”false religion” is another way of saying it…has been in play since about the time the Lord Yahshua brought His kingdom to earth…it is safe to say that these two “systems” have been at war in a juxtaposed fashion since the days of the Lord. One system being the harlot and one being Christ…maybe it is better said that one is a “bride” committed and pure to her husband and the other is a “whore” who is falsely acting like a bride with “many” husbands.

If we change the word “systems” to “kingdoms” we see that the harlot is a part of the kingdom of the beast…and that the bride is in the kingdom of God. Anyone in the “harlot system of false religion” which is in the kingdom of the beast…is apostate because they worship the beast…and as such they are marked by the beast. Those that constitute the “bride” are in the kingdom of God and are marked of God.

Over the ages past and into now and then moving forward from today…yes the false religion of the harlot has been using the churches as her platform and pulpit for nearly 2000 years. Hence the Lords call “Come out of her, my people, so that you will not participate in her sins.”

However very few of those who participate in her harlotries with her…are realizing what they are doing. She is the “false bride” who portrays to all that she is married to the “false Christ”…but to the deceived she appears as the bride of Christ…who claims loyalty to the Lord Yahshua Christ…and neither are true. Thus making her doctrines and teaching false…but they bring pleasure to the unsuspecting and immature souls of men.

On 12/11/2023 at 10:25 AM, AFlameOfFire said:

What do you think that would look like  in the beginnings of it in having a "an agreement" with such powers that be?

In keeping with what I have already stated…the best way for me to attempt to answer your question may be seen in considering what Constantine did in his conflation of pagan idolatry and Christianity in the early parts of the 4^th century. Without a doubt the harlot was in bed with him because we see that Constantine conferred the power of the “state” upon her and she then began to hold a high office if you will…a position of authority in the kingdom of the beast.

On 12/11/2023 at 10:25 AM, AFlameOfFire said:

Would it include things such as internet and media, big pharma, science, medicine, schools and/or colleges which could be possibly used to assist in colluding in their efforts through all the same to control a particular narrative maybe?

In that sort of way?

This question as I view it…shows a lot of insight and contemplation AFlameOfFire…and it is a necessary question that few ever ask. I do not think it is easy to answer either…but here is a simple attempt none the less.

It would seem that in “her sleeping with the kings of the earth”…she has convinced them that she possesses either “divine authority or access to divine authority” which is something every king seems to require. Through the ages the men…the kings of the earth have always wanted or needed some connection to “divinity” and she in her false religious garment fools them into thinking she is what they need…there is so much there AFlameOfFire we do not need to go into that any further at this time.

Since her false religion is a powerful force in the kingdom of the beast…as stated earlier…Satan has used her services (gratification of the kings) as he feels necessary…and in the process he has increasingly took control of all you have mentioned above here. Indeed it is the kings of the earth who possess control of “things such as internet and media, big pharma, science, medicine, schools and/or colleges which could be possibly used to assist in colluding in their efforts through all the same to control a particular narrative”  as you put it.

This harlot has something the kings want…so her “partner” and master…Satan…“pimps” her continuously…and this is presently…perhaps the primary method of how he is feeding and growing his beast…ultimately by gaining control of all that human life on this earth depends upon.

There is much more to this discussion as you can imagine…but with this I have given you an idea of what I believe is going on in regards to your questions here.

On 12/11/2023 at 10:25 AM, AFlameOfFire said:

And so that these would be considered all a part of this global beast system that is empowered by the spirit of Satan?

Bingo…

May I add that I am sensing that the seven heads of the fourth beast are seven systems that all of humanity on the earth depends upon…and that in part…this “harlot and her favors” plays a key role for a time in consolidating the control of all the earth under the beast of Satan the dragon.

Tatwo...:)