Fleeing from Jesus

[douggg]

1 minute ago, Shilohsfoal said:

Perhaps you are just ignoring the context of what the Lord is saying.He is kicking them out because they worshiped their beast which they made for themselves.

 

You have lifted up the shrine of your king,
    the pedestal of your idols,
    the star of your god^[b]—
    which you made for yourselves.
²⁷ Therefore I will send you into exile beyond Damascus,”
    says the Lord, whose name is God Almighty.

 

 

The gentiles are not the only ones who have beats.Israel males they own beast to worship 

No, the Jews will become believers in Jesus in the middle of the 7 years.    Revelation 12:10.

[Shilohsfoal]

1 minute ago, douggg said:

No, the Jews will become believers in Jesus in the middle of the 7 years.    Revelation 12:10.

Then why is Jesus kicking them out of his kingdom when he comes?

 

¹¹ And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven.

¹² But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

 

 

He said they will be kicked out because of their disbelief.

[Shilohsfoal]

It's good to know scripture when there are people trying their very best to mislead you.You should always study the word of God and pay very close attention to detail,otherwise someone might come along and try to mislead you.It happens all the time.Study and compare scripture.Many of the things written in one book can be found in others as well.All of them together will give you a solid understanding of the events soon to come.

[Michael37]

7 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

So why are they fleeing from Jesus?If they belonged to Jesus,they should be gathered unto him at his coming. Insted they are fleeing from him like they are scared to death of him.They turn their backs to Jesus and run.

Exodus 23:27

²⁷ I will send my fear before thee, and will destroy all the people to whom thou shalt come, and I will make all thine enemies turn their backs unto thee.

Elect and non-elect. God chooses whom He delivers from His wrath. His criteria is just and His timing is perfect. Not a problem to me.

[douggg]

16 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

Then why is Jesus kicking them out of his kingdom when he comes?

 

¹¹ And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven.

¹² But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

 

 

He said they will be kicked out because of their disbelief.

Please reference what specific passage you are copying and pasting in the future.  

In Matthew 8:11-12, Jesus was in those verses was referencing them of Israel in His day that were rejecting Him and the gospel of the kingdom, not all Jews.    Jews who down through history who have embraced Jesus as the messiah and savior are a new creation in Christ, just as any Gentile who has done the same.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

25 minutes ago, Michael37 said:

21 minutes ago, douggg said:

Please reference what specific passage you are copying and pasting in the future.  

In Matthew 8:11-12, Jesus was in those verses was referencing them of Israel in His day that were rejecting Him and the gospel of the kingdom, not all Jews.    Jews who down through history who have embraced Jesus as the messiah and savior are a new creation in Christ, just as any Gentile who has done the same.

 

 

False.

Jesus is referencing the time of his coming when Abraham ,Issac and Jacob will receive the kingdom promised to them.Many will be gathered into the millinial kingdom.but the subjects of the kingdom will be cast out.

 

 And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven.

¹² But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

 

 

[Admin edit: Insulting rhetoric removed] the disciples of Jesus are sent to Israel to testify to Israel before the coming day of the Lord and they are thoroughly rejected,imprisoned and murdered.

That's why they reign with Christ over the nations.They do exactly what he tells them to do in the gospel without any thought for themselves.

Edited January 2, 2024 by Michael37
Insulting Rhetoric Removed

[Shilohsfoal]

1 hour ago, Michael37 said:

Elect and non-elect. God chooses whom He delivers from His wrath. His criteria is just and His timing is perfect. Not a problem to me.

Exactly.

 

Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

[farouk]

12 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

Exactly.

 

Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

@Shilohsfoal I am reminded of the hymn 'Have Thine own way, Lord'...............

[Michael37]

31 minutes ago, farouk said:

@Shilohsfoal I am reminded of the hymn 'Have Thine own way, Lord'...............

Yes, it suited God to put a prohibition on one tree in the Garden of Eden and allow Satan to manifest through a serpent to tempt disregard for that prohibition.

[douggg]

3 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

False.

Jesus is referencing the time of his coming when Abraham ,Issac and Jacob will receive the kingdom promised to them.Many will be gathered into the millinial kingdom.but the subjects of the kingdom will be cast out.

Jesus in Matthew 24:15-21 instructed them in Judaea to flee to mountains when they see the abomination of desolation standing in the holy place spoken of by Daniel the prophet.

The abomination of desolation is in Daniel 12:11-12.       Daniel 12, speaking about the time of the end, opens with...

1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

Michael in Revelation 12 stands up and with his angels casts Satan down to earth.   At that time, in the middle of the seven years - the Jews turn to Jesus in Revelation 12:10... delivered, saved.

Satan, having great wrath having but a time/times/half time left, will persecute the Jews for the time, times, half time of Daniel 7:25.    But God's judgment shall come down on Satan, the beast-king, and the false prophet and...

Daniel 7:27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

The Jews and Gentiles who believe in Jesus will be given the kingdom.    The Jews en masse turn to Jesus in the middle of the 7 years, in Revelation 12:10.

Romans 11:

25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

Edited January 2, 2024 by douggg