Fleeing from Jesus

[Tristen]

4 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

The warning I posted is a valid warning to people who do not study

That admonition to study scripture could be made without making negative insinuations against the motives of those who disagree with you.

 

4 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

This probably happens far more than you believe.

Now you insinuate my naiveté - Based on nothing more than the fact that I dared challenge the framing of your argument.

 

[douggg]

5 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

Show me where the unbelieving  Jews come to Jesus during the wrath of God.

Revelation 12:10, the Jews turn to Jesus.   Also you titled the thread fleeing from Jesus, but the Jews in Zechariah 14 flee toward Jesus.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

4 hours ago, Tristen said:

That admonition to study scripture could be made without making negative insinuations against the motives of those who disagree with you.

 

Now you insinuate my naiveté - Based on nothing more than the fact that I dared challenge the framing of your argument.

 

You assume people who try their best deceiving and being decieved actually believe they are deceiving .Well they are not .They believe they are doing good in Jesus name.

 

Mathew 24:5

For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

Don't assume ,learn what's going on.The people in the above verse are deceivng people into receiving the mark of the beast,but they don't know they are deceiving others. They believe they are doing the right thing.Dont just assume the people in this verse are trying to be decieved just because they are.They allowed themselves to be but they will decieve others as much as they can .

 

2 Timothy 3:13

while evildoers and impostors will go from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived.

 

 

 

Edited January 3, 2024 by Shilohsfoal

[Shilohsfoal]

2 hours ago, douggg said:

Revelation 12:10, the Jews turn to Jesus.   Also you titled the thread fleeing from Jesus, but the Jews in Zechariah 14 flee toward Jesus.

 

The Jews who worship the beast and take theark of the beast are not fleeing to Jesus.They are fleeing from Jesus to hide.

 

Word: QEP

Pronounce: noos

Strong: H5127

Orig: a primitive root; to flit, i.e. vanish away (subside, escape; causatively, chase, impel, deliver):--X abate, away, be displayed, (make to) flee (away, -ing), put to flight, X hide, lift up a standard.

Use: TWOT-1327 Verb

Grk Strong: G1309 G1377 G1628 G2703 G2795 G3334 G4863 G5343 G5351 G5437

1. 1) to flee, escape
   1a) (Qal)
   1a1) to flee
   1a2) to escape
   1a3) to take flight, m depart, disappear
   1a4) to fly (to the attack) on horseback
   1b) (Polel) to drive at
   1c) (Hithpolel) to take flight
   1d) (Hiphil)
   1d1) to put to flight
   1d2) to drive hastily
   1d3) to cause to disappear, hide

[douggg]

26 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

The Jews who worship the beast and take theark of the beast are not fleeing to Jesus.They are fleeing from Jesus to hide.

The Jews in Zechariah 14 escaping through the valley are fleeing toward Jesus.

(please edit your post typo to the mark of the beast, not theark of the beast).

The bible doesn't specify that Jews will worship the beast or take the mark of the beast.

 

 

[Shilohsfoal]

41 minutes ago, douggg said:

The Jews in Zechariah 14 escaping through the valley are fleeing toward Jesus.

(please edit your post typo to the mark of the beast, not theark of the beast).

The bible doesn't specify that Jews will worship the beast or take the mark of the beast.

 

 

Yes ,the bible specifies the Jews worship the beast.The beast is who they have chosen for their king. Thats why God sends them into exile on the day of the he Lord.

 

Amos 5

You have lifted up the shrine of your king,
    the pedestal of your idols,
    the star of your god^[b]—
    which you made for yourselves.
²⁷ Therefore I will send you into exile beyond Damascus,”
    says the Lord, whose name is God Almighty.

 

These Jews who worship the beast are not going into exile to be with Jesus.They are being kicked out of he kingdom.as zech 14 and Mathew 8 says.

 

Do you deny the Jews will go into exile on the day of the Lord as Amos 5:36-27 says?Do you also dispute the word of God in those verses as well?

Edited January 3, 2024 by Shilohsfoal

[douggg]

21 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

Do you deny the Jews will go into exile on the day of the Lord as Amos 5:36-27 says?Do you also dispute the word of God in those verses as well?

Amos 5 was prophecy against the northern kingdom, Israel.   Amos himself was from the southern kingdom of Judah.    The prophecy was for ancient times when Israel got into worshipping Molech and Chiun.

25 Have ye offered unto me sacrifices and offerings in the wilderness forty years, O house of Israel?

26 But ye have borne the tabernacle of your Moloch and Chiun your images, the star of your god, which ye made to yourselves.

27 Therefore will I cause you to go into captivity beyond Damascus, saith the LORD, whose name is The God of hosts.

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Go here to learn more about Amos...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amos_(prophet)

Edited January 3, 2024 by douggg

[Shilohsfoal]

2 hours ago, douggg said:

Amos 5 was prophecy against the northern kingdom, Israel.   Amos himself was from the southern kingdom of Judah.    The prophecy was for ancient times when Israel got into worshipping Molech and Chiun.

25 Have ye offered unto me sacrifices and offerings in the wilderness forty years, O house of Israel?

26 But ye have borne the tabernacle of your Moloch and Chiun your images, the star of your god, which ye made to yourselves.

27 Therefore will I cause you to go into captivity beyond Damascus, saith the LORD, whose name is The God of hosts.

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Go here to learn more about Amos...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amos_(prophet)

 

Day of the Lord

 

So you claim the Day of the Lord was what date in ancient times?

 

 

 

[douggg]

2 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

 

Day of the Lord

So you claim the Day of the Lord was what date in ancient times?

 

It says that the ones in the northern kingdom of Israel were looking for the Day of the Lord, not that it took place back then.

Edited January 3, 2024 by douggg

[Know Jah]

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