God is love

[Guest shiloh357]

But in the example of Jacob and Esau, the term "hate" does not mean contempt. It means that God had more regard for Jocob for the sake of His covenant. It was a matter of simply stating that Jacob took precedence over Esau. It was not being used to say that God hated Esau in the absolute sense.

In the same way, are called to "hate" our parents in peference to Christ. Obviously, we are not being told to hold our parents in contempt, but to hold Christ in higher regard than our parents. He should take the number one spot ahead of even our most cherished loved ones, be they parents siblings or a spouse.

I agree. I was responding more to Doods assertion that the verb is never used with God as the Subject and people as the object. I agree it does not carry with it the connatations we assume it does

[yomotalking]

Well yes Yomo,

But you are getting more into complicated aspects of the Bible, but i'm guessing as you're interested there is no reason why you cannot study. Every number, Yomo, that you can think of is mentioned in the Bible, each number means a specific thing, am I making sense Yomo? I guess I would says that the Bible is a maths question with an absolute answer.

Your Sister in Christ Jesus

Anne

where am I going to get info?

[Anne]

There must be loads of books out there Yomo,

I got a book here called "numbers of the Bible", it is a most excellent teaching aid, i'll search it out tomorrow and let you know who the author is, hope it will be of help.

Your Sister in Christ Jesus

Anne

[Anne]

dood,

I've read through your posting again and i'm still not sure what you mean, sorry!

Anne

[Guest NHisMage]

Does God love everything He created? Well, during the creation account in Genesis, He considered everything He created as good or very good. However, God is not the author of sin. God cannot even look upon sin. That's is why He sent His Son Jesus as the propitiation (satisfaction) of our sin.

Yomo, don't look at God hating something the same way that we as humans can hate something. Just as we cannot love with the depth that God loves, we can't hate with the depth that He does, either. His hatred does not change who He is - righteous and holy (among other things). Our hatred can change who we are and cause us to do unrighteous and unholy acts.

I hope this makes sense.

NHisMage

[Anne]

I personally do not think God(Elohiym) is capable of hate. I think He can be angry, jealous, annoyed at at things we do, but hating us? No i do not think that His heart is capable of such a thing!

Yomo, God's heart so pure that He must love everything He has created, however, sin began when we first took our eyes off God and thought we could make it on our own. We must have hurt Him so much Yomo!

Your Sister in Christ Jesus

Anne

[yomotalking]

Well yes Yomo,

But you are getting more into complicated aspects of the Bible, but i'm guessing as you're interested there is no reason why you cannot study. Every number, Yomo, that you can think of is mentioned in the Bible, each number means a specific thing, am I making sense Yomo? I guess I would says that the Bible is a maths question with an absolute answer.

Your Sister in Christ Jesus

Anne

where am I going to get info?

Some books are so way off out there.

I don't have that much money.

[penfold]

I was hoping he did hate.

I suppose he loves the sinner but hates the sin but some people the sin is so entwined with who they are- e.g. paedophiles I dont know how he couldnt hate the whole person.

How about Haman in Esther- he hated the jews so God set things up to get Haman the punnishment he had set up for Jews.

I suppose in this setting God still didnt hate Haman, just punnished him and preserved his people.

Some creatures I think are certainly post fall though and I am hoping God hates them!

wasps, slugs, snails especially!

[ONE WHO WISHES TO LOVE GOD]

This made me think.

Does God hate the devil...

I would say of course.

But God is love.........

So.........I don't understand.......

I AM ONE WHO WISHES TO LOVE GOD and well my understanding as to Gods Love is a balanced one, that is to say Gods love is balanced. what i mean is that yes God is Love for there can be no greater exsample of what love is, infact in Him in dwells the fullness of what Love is and yet Love is not the fullness of what He is. For exsample God is also rightuess and so by these and all His other excelling qaulittys they balance each other so because of his rightuesness His Beloved Son had to die, but also because of His love for us He gave His Son. however as to the devil even Jesus said as regards to blaspheme of the Holy Spirit it would not be fogiven, no not in this system nor that which is to come and the devil certainly is guilty and further more when we sin He say indeed i do forgive but never will i let go with out punishment, because God is not one to be mocked. but as regauds to his punishment He dose say, He punishes those He loves. GOT IT ??? SORRY BUT IT JUST HAD TO PUT THAT LAST PART IN. Edited November 28, 2005 by ONE WHO WISHES TO LOVE GOD

[Anne]

Yomo,

if I can find the book I was speaking of on the internet, i'll e mail you the address, otherwise i'm gonna have to type it to you chapter by chapter,...........lol.

Your Sister in Christ Jesus

Anne