"We accept Christ - then get a bunch of rules to follow"

Starise · February 2

In just taking the statement at face value, I think it might possiblty reflect a man who realizes there is some requirement and responsibilities as a believer, but I don't see any of it as burdensome really. We should be willing to sacrifice for Him. So far as rules are concerned, there are only two. Love Him with all your heart and love your neighbor as yourself. That's probably why you may want to move next to some extra nice neighbors.

Many new believers think it's a quick decision and off they go, but that decision involves giving the Lord all of us, that is if we want to be successful believers.

AnOrangeCat · February 2

12 hours ago, Vine Abider said:

In my Tuesday men's fellowship, a brother said this. So is this what the Christian life is about?

A bit hard to see where he's coming from. Jesus pointed out that in upholding just two commandments we're operating in the spirit of the law. In Acts we see an acknowledgement that the Gentiles aren't under Jewish law, and they point at a pretty simple and short list of restrictions. I also feel like reducing Christianity to a set of rules is missing the point. Yes, there are some rules, but WHY we follow them (or should follow them) is deeply important as well. Without that there's some very important context missing.

D. Adrien · February 2

Where there is no law sin is not counted. Romans 4:15

...because the law brings about wrath; for where there is no law there is no transgression.

Is sin being committed today around the world?

Romans 7:14

For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am carnal, sold under sin.

The law was not nailed to the cross, it was the penalty of sin that was eliminated by all who accept the free gift of eternal life. If the law had been nailed to the cross as many claim, sin would not exist to be held against mankind.

Rom. 5:10

For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, now that we are reconciled, shall we be saved by his life.

Rom 8:3-4

For God has done what the law, weakened by the flesh, could not do. By sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh, 4in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.

FJK · February 2

10 hours ago, NConly said:

Gal 2

16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

That's what the verse says, but what does it mean to YOU as a person, how do you apply it in your life on a daily basis and teach others to apply it to theirs?

When faced with a moral dilemma in you life, a critical one, do you turn to understanding the law as a source of guidance or just pass it off as irrelevant since the law no longer mens anything?

Edited February 2 by FJK

Neighbor · February 2

"We accept Christ - then get a bunch of rules to follow"

And praise the Holy Spirit for entering and enabling those born again so that each may come to see the wisdom of and the need for learning and joyously adhering to those rules.

"The Lord has promised good to me,
His Word my hope secures;
He will my Shield and Portion be,
As long as life endures.

Yea, when this flesh and heart shall fail,
And mortal life shall cease,
I shall possess, within the veil,
A life of joy and peace." From Amazing Grace

NConly · February 2

1 hour ago, FJK said:

That's what the verse says, but what does it mean to YOU as a person, how do you apply it in your life on a daily basis and teach others to apply it to theirs?

When faced with a moral dilemma in you life, a critical one, do you turn to understanding the law as a source of guidance or just pass it off as irrelevant since the law no longer mens anything?

The old law was only given to Israel the other 90 to 98 % of the world had no law from God the father.

In Deu 18

15 The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken;

So I follow only Jesus no old law written on stone. In Jere 31

31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:

33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

If one looks at what Jesus spoke about the commandments they are pretty close to the same the key is to follow them because one has Faith in Jesus and what he spoke, Not what was written on stone and only given to Israel.

Matt 18

18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,

19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.