Marilyn C Posted February 17 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 30 Topic Count: 267 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 13,205 Content Per Day: 3.49 Reputation: 8,497 Days Won: 12 Joined: 12/21/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/06/1947 Share Posted February 17 43 minutes ago, JoeCanada said: @Marilyn C.... @Shilohsfoal....@Guest StormyMonday Go back and read Rev 17:1-3 Come here, I will show you the judgment of the great harlot who sits on many waters, with whom the kings of the earth committed acts of immorality, and those who dwell on the earth were made drunk with the wine of her immorality.” And he carried me away in the Spirit into a wilderness; and I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast, full of blasphemous names, having seven heads and ten horns. The "many waters" on which the harlot sits (the woman) are gentile nations. The "scarlet beast" on which the woman sits is non other than Satan, who has, since time began, been sitting on the seven heads, ie kingdoms, with which he ruled and tried to wipe out the Jews to have the world for himself. The seven mountains or seven hills are NOT seven mountains or seven hills. They are kingdoms! Satan does NOT sit on seven mountains or hills. He has sat and is sitting on seven kingdoms. Hi Joe, I believe you` re getting close. The `woman` is sitting upon the many waters - the nations of the world. And the `beast` is the Global Government being formed by those nations. The 7 heads, are 7 leaders that rule consecutively over the global Government. `Heads` means leaders and `kings` means Political. There are not 7 kingdoms but one great Global Government. It is forming now and will be the Final Gentile Global Government that God will judge before He sets up His rulership through Israel over the nations. Looking at this GG forming today we see the G 20 is the foremost group that oversees much of the world. It has a leadership rotation of five (5) leaders. When that has finished then the 6th will come and then finally the A/C the 7th. By then East and West will have been deceived to work together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted February 17 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.47 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted February 17 (edited) 8 hours ago, JoeCanada said: @Marilyn C.... @Shilohsfoal....@Guest StormyMonday Let's break this down..... Rev 17:9..... Here is the mind which has wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits Rev 17:10.... and they are seven kings; five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; and when he comes, he must remain a little while. The seven heads are (seven mountains on which the woman sits) and they are seven kings The seven heads ...... and they are seven kings. So.... The seven heads are seven kings. Five have fallen.....one is..... the other has not yet come...... and when he comes, he must remain a little while. This is not speaking about physical mountains. A king must have a kingdom. The seven mountains are seven kingdoms on which the woman sits. Here is the mind which has wisdom. Go back and read Rev 17:1-3 Come here, I will show you the judgment of the great harlot who sits on many waters, with whom the kings of the earth committed acts of immorality, and those who dwell on the earth were made drunk with the wine of her immorality.” And he carried me away in the Spirit into a wilderness; and I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast, full of blasphemous names, having seven heads and ten horns. The "many waters" on which the harlot sits (the woman) are gentile nations. The "scarlet beast" on which the woman sits is non other than Satan, who has, since time began, been sitting on the seven heads, ie kingdoms, with which he ruled and tried to wipe out the Jews to have the world for himself. The seven mountains or seven hills are NOT seven mountains or seven hills. They are kingdoms! Satan does NOT sit on seven mountains or hills. He has sat and is sitting on seven kingdoms. Lets break this down a bit more.It depends on which translation you use to define the seven kings.I agree there are seven mountains on which Jerusalem sits.But to he following verse is not talking about mountains.Itbis talking about kings.Notice the KJV does not say they.Itvsays There and there are many more translations that say there Insted of they.This changes the meaning of the verse entirely. Revelation 17:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. now I understand these kings as being the kingdoms that have ruled over Israel.They are five which have fallen , Egypt Assyria Babylon Persia Greece One that was at the time John wrote revelation Rome One that came and continued a short space after the Jews returned. Great Britton And the beast which attacks Jerusalem and conquers the prostitute. Persia-aka Iran There will be ten other nations which give their strength to Iran to defeat the prostitute.There is more on Iran. Thats how I see it. Jerimiah 51:11 Sharpen the arrows, take up the shields! The LORD has stirred up the kings of the Medes, because his purpose is to destroy Babylon. The LORD will take vengeance, vengeance for his temple. God shall give the prostitute over to Iran after apostate Israel has persecuted and killed the saints in Israel (the temple). The Medes have one goal .Understanding their religion is a key to understanding the war of armegeddon.Their goal is to attack the armed forces in Israel,destroy that army and kill all the Jews.They are told to do this after a severe three year drought in the Hadith which is exactly when the beast from the abyss attacks Jerusalem in revelation 11.That beast does not attack the entire world nor does it attack seven countries .It attacks Jerusalem 3.5 days before Christ comes and raises the dead. It's right there in revelation 11. Revelation 11 7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them. The beast from.the bottomless pit attacks Jerusalem killing its occupants.Not the world. Edited February 17 by Shilohsfoal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted February 17 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.47 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted February 17 8 hours ago, JoeCanada said: @Marilyn C.... @Shilohsfoal....@Guest StormyMonday Let's break this down..... Rev 17:9..... Here is the mind which has wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits Rev 17:10.... and they are seven kings; five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; and when he comes, he must remain a little while. The seven heads are (seven mountains on which the woman sits) and they are seven kings The seven heads ...... and they are seven kings. So.... The seven heads are seven kings. Five have fallen.....one is..... the other has not yet come...... and when he comes, he must remain a little while. This is not speaking about physical mountains. A king must have a kingdom. The seven mountains are seven kingdoms on which the woman sits. Here is the mind which has wisdom. Go back and read Rev 17:1-3 Come here, I will show you the judgment of the great harlot who sits on many waters, with whom the kings of the earth committed acts of immorality, and those who dwell on the earth were made drunk with the wine of her immorality.” And he carried me away in the Spirit into a wilderness; and I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast, full of blasphemous names, having seven heads and ten horns. The "many waters" on which the harlot sits (the woman) are gentile nations. The "scarlet beast" on which the woman sits is non other than Satan, who has, since time began, been sitting on the seven heads, ie kingdoms, with which he ruled and tried to wipe out the Jews to have the world for himself. The seven mountains or seven hills are NOT seven mountains or seven hills. They are kingdoms! Satan does NOT sit on seven mountains or hills. He has sat and is sitting on seven kingdoms. PS Israel is a nation of immigrants from all nations and tongues and peoples . The waters where the prostitute sits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeCanada Posted February 17 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 76 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,251 Content Per Day: 0.55 Reputation: 673 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/26/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted February 17 11 hours ago, Marilyn C said: Hi Joe, I believe you` re getting close. The `woman` is sitting upon the many waters - the nations of the world. And the `beast` is the Global Government being formed by those nations. The 7 heads, are 7 leaders that rule consecutively over the global Government. `Heads` means leaders and `kings` means Political. There are not 7 kingdoms but one great Global Government. It is forming now and will be the Final Gentile Global Government that God will judge before He sets up His rulership through Israel over the nations. Looking at this GG forming today we see the G 20 is the foremost group that oversees much of the world. It has a leadership rotation of five (5) leaders. When that has finished then the 6th will come and then finally the A/C the 7th. By then East and West will have been deceived to work together. Hi Marilyn, In Rev 17:10, John tells ... "and they are seven kings; five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; and when he comes, he must remain a little while. So five have already fallen...... past tense One is...... present tense One is to come..... future tense 11 hours ago, Marilyn C said: There are not 7 kingdoms but one great Global Government. And yet scripture tells us that: "The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits" Mountains are kingdoms (and a person could say governments) but there are seven, not one as you say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeCanada Posted February 17 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 76 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,251 Content Per Day: 0.55 Reputation: 673 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/26/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted February 17 4 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said: PS Israel is a nation of immigrants from all nations and tongues and peoples . The waters where the prostitute sits. So is the USA So is Canada So is Europe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeCanada Posted February 17 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 76 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,251 Content Per Day: 0.55 Reputation: 673 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/26/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted February 17 4 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said: I agree there are seven mountains on which Jerusalem sits. With whom are you agreeing? I never said that it is Jerusalem which sits on seven mountains. Which it does not! Jerusalem is surrounded by some 69 mounts (or mountains), some of the more famous ones are : Temple Mount......... Mount of Olives.......... Mount Scopus......... Mount Zion Har Nof...... Mount Herzl....... Mount of Rest......... Mount Hotzvim Most sites that a person searches will say that the above Mounts are the most well known. So..... eight Not.... seven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Daze Posted February 17 Group: Royal Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 84 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 4,011 Content Per Day: 1.12 Reputation: 2,519 Days Won: 4 Joined: 07/17/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted February 17 (edited) 14 hours ago, JoeCanada said: @Marilyn C.... @Shilohsfoal....@Guest StormyMonday Let's break this down..... Rev 17:9..... Here is the mind which has wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits Rev 17:10.... and they are seven kings; five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; and when he comes, he must remain a little while. The seven heads are (seven mountains on which the woman sits) and they are seven kings The seven heads ...... and they are seven kings. So.... The seven heads are seven kings. Five have fallen.....one is..... the other has not yet come...... and when he comes, he must remain a little while. This is not speaking about physical mountains. A king must have a kingdom. The seven mountains are seven kingdoms on which the woman sits. Here is the mind which has wisdom. Go back and read Rev 17:1-3 Come here, I will show you the judgment of the great harlot who sits on many waters, with whom the kings of the earth committed acts of immorality, and those who dwell on the earth were made drunk with the wine of her immorality.” And he carried me away in the Spirit into a wilderness; and I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast, full of blasphemous names, having seven heads and ten horns. The "many waters" on which the harlot sits (the woman) are gentile nations. The "scarlet beast" on which the woman sits is non other than Satan, who has, since time began, been sitting on the seven heads, ie kingdoms, with which he ruled and tried to wipe out the Jews to have the world for himself. The seven mountains or seven hills are NOT seven mountains or seven hills. They are kingdoms! Satan does NOT sit on seven mountains or hills. He has sat and is sitting on seven kingdoms. That passage from Revelation 17 jibes with Daniel 10 and shows the dual nature of earthly kingdoms, spiritual and natural. The mountains speak to the supernatural aspect, or as Daniel puts it, the princes of those kingdoms. They result in the office of king that exercises earthly dominion. The heads of the dragon represent the power, throne, and great authority Satan exercised through these kingdoms, spiritually and naturally. Edited February 17 by Last Daze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyn C Posted February 17 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 30 Topic Count: 267 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 13,205 Content Per Day: 3.49 Reputation: 8,497 Days Won: 12 Joined: 12/21/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/06/1947 Share Posted February 17 5 hours ago, Last Daze said: That passage from Revelation 17 jibes with Daniel 10 and shows the dual nature of earthly kingdoms, spiritual and natural. The mountains speak to the supernatural aspect, or as Daniel puts it, the princes of those kingdoms. They result in the office of king that exercises earthly dominion. The heads of the dragon represent the power, throne, and great authority Satan exercised through these kingdoms, spiritually and naturally. I agree that Satan influences the kingdoms of the world. Then we need to see that the `heads are consecutive,` while the 10 crowned horns, Political leaders, are a group and give their power and authority to the A/C the 7th `head.` Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyn C Posted February 17 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 30 Topic Count: 267 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 13,205 Content Per Day: 3.49 Reputation: 8,497 Days Won: 12 Joined: 12/21/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/06/1947 Share Posted February 17 6 hours ago, JoeCanada said: Hi Marilyn, In Rev 17:10, John tells ... "and they are seven kings; five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; and when he comes, he must remain a little while. So five have already fallen...... past tense One is...... present tense One is to come..... future tense And yet scripture tells us that: "The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits" Mountains are kingdoms (and a person could say governments) but there are seven, not one as you say. The `present tense` is in the time just before the 10 kings give their power and authority to the A/C. (Rev. 17: 12) The `7 Heads` are consecutive and are one at a time over the one Global Government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted February 18 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.47 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted February 18 11 hours ago, JoeCanada said: So is the USA So is Canada So is Europe The beast which hates the prostitute attacks Jerusalem. That being the capital of Israel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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