Sin though pleasurable is still deadly.

[D. Adrien]

The following is gleaned from a sermon I heard a number of years ago which elaborated upon the damage and destruction that sin produces in the lives of sinners. I neglected to note who the Preacher was and cannot recall, anonymous, he shall remain. How sin effects the affected and the falling back into bondage;

Separates the sinner from God. Isaiah 59: 1,2

Behold, the LORD’s hand is not shortened, that it cannot save,
or his ear dull, that it cannot hear;
but your iniquities have made a separation
between you and your God,

Blocks prayer. Isaiah 1:15, Proverbs 28:9

When you spread out your hands,               
I will hide my eyes from you;
even though you make many prayers,
I will not listen;
your hands are full of blood.

If one turns away his ear from hearing the law,
even his prayer is an abomination.

 

Is disobedience. Acts 5:32, Psalm 51:11

And we are witnesses to these things, and so is the Holy Spirit, whom God has given to those who obey him.

Cast me not away from your presence,
and take not your Holy Spirit from me.

Takes away peace. Isaiah 51:20

Your sons have fainted;
they lie at the head of every street
like an antelope in a net;
they are full of the wrath of the LORD,
the rebuke of your God.

 

Leads to ignorance of God's truth. Proverbs 4:19

The way of the wicked is like deep darkness;
they do not know over what they stumble.

 

Produces madness. (Observe the current times). Ecclesiastes 9:3

This is an evil in all that is done under the sun, that the same event happens to all. Also, the hearts of the children of man are full of evil, and madness is in their hearts while they live, and after that they go to the dead.

 

Shortens life. Proverbs 10:27, Romans 6:23

The fear of the LORD prolongs life,
but the years of the wicked will be short.

For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

 

Produces death. Ezekiel 18:4,20

Behold, all souls are mine; the soul of the father as well as the soul of the son is mine: the soul who sins shall die.

The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not suffer for the iniquity of the father, nor the father suffer for the iniquity of the son.

 

[Michael37]

25 minutes ago, D. Adrien said:

The following is gleaned from a sermon I heard a number of years ago which elaborated upon the damage and destruction that sin produces in the lives of sinners. I neglected to note who the Preacher was and cannot recall, anonymous, he shall remain. How sin effects the affected and the falling back into bondage;

Separates the sinner from God. Isaiah 59: 1,2

Behold, the LORD’s hand is not shortened, that it cannot save,
or his ear dull, that it cannot hear;
but your iniquities have made a separation
between you and your God,

Blocks prayer. Isaiah 1:15, Proverbs 28:9

When you spread out your hands,               
I will hide my eyes from you;
even though you make many prayers,
I will not listen;
your hands are full of blood.

If one turns away his ear from hearing the law,
even his prayer is an abomination.

 

Is disobedience. Acts 5:32, Psalm 51:11

And we are witnesses to these things, and so is the Holy Spirit, whom God has given to those who obey him.

Cast me not away from your presence,
and take not your Holy Spirit from me.

Takes away peace. Isaiah 51:20

Your sons have fainted;
they lie at the head of every street
like an antelope in a net;
they are full of the wrath of the LORD,
the rebuke of your God.

 

Leads to ignorance of God's truth. Proverbs 4:19

The way of the wicked is like deep darkness;
they do not know over what they stumble.

 

Produces madness. (Observe the current times). Ecclesiastes 9:3

This is an evil in all that is done under the sun, that the same event happens to all. Also, the hearts of the children of man are full of evil, and madness is in their hearts while they live, and after that they go to the dead.

 

Shortens life. Proverbs 10:27, Romans 6:23

The fear of the LORD prolongs life,
but the years of the wicked will be short.

For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

 

Produces death. Ezekiel 18:4,20

Behold, all souls are mine; the soul of the father as well as the soul of the son is mine: the soul who sins shall die.

The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not suffer for the iniquity of the father, nor the father suffer for the iniquity of the son.

 

FYI @D. Adrien Some threads are better suited to the Bible Study subforum. If there is no discussion being raised I move threads there and ask members who repeatedly post what are essentially studies in the General Discussion Forum to desist.

Not a sin, but a discrepancy. 

[Neighbor]

53 minutes ago, D. Adrien said:

The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not suffer for the iniquity of the father, nor the father suffer for the iniquity of the son.

 

And yet; 

The Lord...visits the iniquity of the fathers on the children and the children’s children, to the third and the fourth generation. (Exodus 34:6-7  Deuteronomy 5:8-10)

“Because of their iniquity, and also because of the iniquities of their fathers they shall rot away like them.” (Leviticus 26:39)

Seems the statement might require  some qualifiers, some context in order to hold true. 

A household often suffers the sins of the head of that household does it not?( A household of three and even four generations living under it.) So; could be a timeline  of generations  or a common physical location at one time that are affected.

 

[D. Adrien]

49 minutes ago, Michael37 said:

FYI @D. Adrien Some threads are better suited to the Bible Study subforum. If there is no discussion being raised I move threads there and ask members who repeatedly post what are essentially studies in the General Discussion Forum to desist.

Not a sin, but a discrepancy. 

I was under the impression that one had to be a Preacher to post new threads in the bible study page.

[D. Adrien]

22 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

And yet; 

The Lord...visits the iniquity of the fathers on the children and the children’s children, to the third and the fourth generation. (Exodus 34:6-7  Deuteronomy 5:8-10)

“Because of their iniquity, and also because of the iniquities of their fathers they shall rot away like them.” (Leviticus 26:39)

Seems the statement might require  some qualifiers, some context in order to hold true. 

A household often suffers the sins of the head of that household does it not?( A household of three and even four generations living under it.) So; could be a timeline  of generations  or a common physical location at one time that are affected.

 

Perhaps the difference deals with a person's understanding of the law?

I try to stick to the written word and let those more qualified parse the meaning.

[Neighbor]

6 minutes ago, D. Adrien said:

Perhaps the difference deals with a person's understanding of the law?

I try to stick to the written word and let those more qualified parse the meaning.

Oh I think it is a matter of context for each isolated verse and passage. That is one reason I dislike even having division of God's word into verses, for it hinders seeing the flow of the fuller context. 

[Michael37]

18 minutes ago, D. Adrien said:

I was under the impression that one had to be a Preacher to post new threads in the bible study page.

That would be the Study Group subforum you are thinking of, which only those on the Oversight Team can start threads in. Anyone with access to the main site can then post in such threads.

However, see the highlighted subforum in the snip below which all unrestricted members can post their study threads in.

 

[D. Adrien]

4 minutes ago, Michael37 said:

That would be the Study Group subforum you are thinking of, which only those on the Oversight Team can start threads in. Anyone with access to the main site can then post in such threads.

However, see the highlighted subforum in the snip below which all unrestricted members can post their study threads in.

 

Thank you Michael!

[D. Adrien]

6 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

Oh I think it is a matter of context for each isolated verse and passage. That is one reason I dislike even having division of God's word into verses, for it hinders seeing the flow of the fuller context. 

 Hello Neighbor, I have found for myself  that practicing Christianity and leaving the doctrinal stuff to others provides me with the most peace. Context is nearly everything though, as to not get drawn into obscure and wrongheaded thinking.

[Michael37]

10 minutes ago, D. Adrien said:

Thank you Michael!

You're welcome. The Oversight Team are for guidance in the first instance, then correction, and lastly disciplining when necessary.

Your thread here has raised discussion on sin so no need to move it, and actual Bible Studies do attract replies without leading to lengthy debates and speculations.