Starise Posted March 4 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 13 Topic Count: 279 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 13,079 Content Per Day: 9.76 Reputation: 13,555 Days Won: 149 Joined: 08/26/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted March 4 How are we alike to unbelievers? I'll list a few. - We all get sick - We all have family disputes - We all get tired - We all have emotions -We all have logic -We all have souls -We all sin -We all make mistakes How are we different? - We see God as God. - We follow the Lord. - We follow God's ideas for what fulfills and grows us a human beings. - We acknowledge sin in ourselves - We repent of said sin - We are willing to do what it takes to Let God better us, even if it means there is pain in the gain. -We realize there is nothing God sees as good in us because of sin, but we also know we are being perfected through HIm. - We talk with God through prayer - We worship 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior12 Posted March 4 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 54 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,428 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 1,516 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/05/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted March 4 We proclaim the Jesus Christ is Lord, and only through him can salvation be found . That name is above all names and is the king of kings and Lord of All. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueFollowerOfChrist Posted March 4 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,039 Content Per Day: 1.62 Reputation: 589 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/26/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted March 4 This may not be what you meant, but I didn't see much difference between believers and unbelievers. Almost every "believer" I know acts exactly the same as an unbeliever. The only difference I see is that believers go to church. But the believers that go to church are still worldly, selfish, idolaters, and in general sinners. Why don't believers in Christ show an epic difference from the world? Our lives should be 100% different and better than unbelievers. There should be no doubt that we belong to Jesus. If we have to tell people we are Christian, then we are failing. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor Posted March 4 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 952 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,573 Content Per Day: 5.03 Reputation: 9,054 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/03/1885 Share Posted March 4 12 minutes ago, TrueFollowerOfChrist said: This may not be what you meant, but I didn't see much difference between believers and unbelievers. Almost every "believer" I know acts exactly the same as an unbeliever. The only difference I see is that believers go to church. But the believers that go to church are still worldly, selfish, idolaters, and in general sinners. Why don't believers in Christ show an epic difference from the world? Our lives should be 100% different and better than unbelievers. There should be no doubt that we belong to Jesus. If we have to tell people we are Christian, then we are failing. Hi, I do see life through a very different lens; many if not most people whether Christian or not are extremely generous with their time, labor, finances, good wishes and prayerful thought. Just put a smile on going through a grocery store even on a busy day and see how many people gravitate to that smile and start conversation. People do need people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted March 4 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 597 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,117 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,851 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Online Share Posted March 4 1 hour ago, TrueFollowerOfChrist said: This may not be what you meant, but I didn't see much difference between believers and unbelievers. Almost every "believer" I know acts exactly the same as an unbeliever. The only difference I see is that believers go to church. But the believers that go to church are still worldly, selfish, idolaters, and in general sinners. Why don't believers in Christ show an epic difference from the world? Our lives should be 100% different and better than unbelievers. There should be no doubt that we belong to Jesus. If we have to tell people we are Christian, then we are failing. You need to attend a Nazarene Church for a while. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Marathoner Posted March 4 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 71 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 10,125 Content Per Day: 7.06 Reputation: 13,076 Days Won: 97 Joined: 05/24/2020 Status: Offline Popular Post Share Posted March 4 @TrueFollowerOfChrist raises points that shouldn't be ignored nor drowned out. They're valid. I steer clear of the fleshly trap of comparing one with the other, for at no time has the Lord declared that we are superior or better than anyone else. Indeed, that trap leads so many to turn a blind eye and deaf ear toward "unbelievers," accounting them as inferior or mistaken simply because they don't sport the trappings of earthly religion. That religion is the very form of godliness that the apostle Paul warned us about. It has the outward appearance of godliness but in truth, is like a hollow bell devoid of love. That religion is worthless in the sight of God the Father. I prefer to listen to the Lord and His word regarding the way in which we shall be known to others. Love is what my Lord Jesus Christ declared that we shall be known by; our love for one another is how the world shall know that we are His disciples (John 13:35). Lists of this and that are not only meaningless but are alien to the instruction which we receive from the Lord. Where did the Lord say, You will be known by your church attendance, or, You will be known by how much you detest the lost and the dying? There are some who proclaim the name of Christ whom, by their words and deeds, prove that they are far away from Him. Love, my friends. Love is the way in which others will know that we belong to Jesus Christ. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior12 Posted March 4 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 54 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,428 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 1,516 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/05/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted March 4 7 hours ago, Starise said: How are we different? - We see God as God. - We follow the Lord. - We follow God's ideas for what fulfills and grows us a human beings. - We acknowledge sin in ourselves - We repent of said sin - We are willing to do what it takes to Let God better us, even if it means there is pain in the gain. -We realize there is nothing God sees as good in us because of sin, but we also know we are being perfected through HIm. - We talk with God through prayer - We worship With a post like this and stating the difference, you have not mentioned the name of Jesus Christ once. You see, for the observer he can put place holders, e.g Lord for him can mean Shiva, and God can mean Allah. Without bringing into focus the name of Jesus Christ as the main difference in who we worship, the differences can be mistaken for others. Without Jesus and the Gospels as the main factor in this difference , then the speculation for the observer as to God and Lord can be open as to their. - we confess with the tongue and believe in our hearts , Jesus Christ is Lord. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starise Posted March 4 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 13 Topic Count: 279 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 13,079 Content Per Day: 9.76 Reputation: 13,555 Days Won: 149 Joined: 08/26/2020 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 4 That’s why you’re here. Can you be like Jesus so well that others won’t have a need to ask the question, or attempt to suggest a lack of something in me? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starise Posted March 4 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 13 Topic Count: 279 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 13,079 Content Per Day: 9.76 Reputation: 13,555 Days Won: 149 Joined: 08/26/2020 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 4 3 hours ago, Marathoner said: @TrueFollowerOfChrist raises points that shouldn't be ignored nor drowned out. They're valid. I steer clear of the fleshly trap of comparing one with the other, for at no time has the Lord declared that we are superior or better than anyone else. Indeed, that trap leads so many to turn a blind eye and deaf ear toward "unbelievers," accounting them as inferior or mistaken simply because they don't sport the trappings of earthly religion. That religion is the very form of godliness that the apostle Paul warned us about. It has the outward appearance of godliness but in truth, is like a hollow bell devoid of love. That religion is worthless in the sight of God the Father. I prefer to listen to the Lord and His word regarding the way in which we shall be known to others. Love is what my Lord Jesus Christ declared that we shall be known by; our love for one another is how the world shall know that we are His disciples (John 13:35). Lists of this and that are not only meaningless but are alien to the instruction which we receive from the Lord. Where did the Lord say, You will be known by your church attendance, or, You will be known by how much you detest the lost and the dying? There are some who proclaim the name of Christ whom, by their words and deeds, prove that they are far away from Him. Love, my friends. Love is the way in which others will know that we belong to Jesus Christ. That’s it! Love. Real love! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vine Abider Posted March 4 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 6 Topic Count: 201 Topics Per Day: 0.37 Content Count: 3,427 Content Per Day: 6.24 Reputation: 2,283 Days Won: 3 Joined: 10/25/2022 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/01/2024 Share Posted March 4 8 hours ago, Starise said: How are we alike to unbelievers? I'll list a few. - We all get sick - We all have family disputes - We all get tired - We all have emotions -We all have logic -We all have souls -We all sin -We all make mistakes How are we different? - We see God as God. - We follow the Lord. - We follow God's ideas for what fulfills and grows us a human beings. - We acknowledge sin in ourselves - We repent of said sin - We are willing to do what it takes to Let God better us, even if it means there is pain in the gain. -We realize there is nothing God sees as good in us because of sin, but we also know we are being perfected through HIm. - We talk with God through prayer - We worship 7 hours ago, TrueFollowerOfChrist said: This may not be what you meant, but I didn't see much difference between believers and unbelievers. Almost every "believer" I know acts exactly the same as an unbeliever. The only difference I see is that believers go to church. But the believers that go to church are still worldly, selfish, idolaters, and in general sinners. Why don't believers in Christ show an epic difference from the world? Our lives should be 100% different and better than unbelievers. There should be no doubt that we belong to Jesus. If we have to tell people we are Christian, then we are failing. The only difference is we have a new life in us - our spirit has been joined to His Spirit. The new life in us is meant as our source, but we can still choose to live by the old life of Adam/flesh as our source (which flesh has actually already been crucified in Christ as per Galatians 5:24, by making the choice to be in Christ). This is the revelation of the new covenant - His divine life in us --> transforming us into His image. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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