THREE FROGS.... "Ribbit"

[JoeCanada]

                                                                  THREE FROGS........... "Ribbit"

Rev 16:13-14:

                     " I saw coming out of the mouth of the dragon and out of the mouth of the beast

                        and out of the mouth of the false prophet, three unclean spirits like frogs;

                        for they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go out to the kings of

                  the whole world, to gather them together for the war of the great day of God, the Almighty"

Why does Satan (the dragon) need something extra to fight against Jesus? The Antichrist (the beast) is not enough. Apparent immortality is not enough. Satan and the Antichrist need demon spirits to deceive the kings of the world.

And what does the symbol of a frog mean?

They, frogs, come out of the "mouths" of the dragon, the antichrist and the false prophet. They issue forth from these three.

Might they have something to do with "words".... as they "come out of their mouths"? .... maybe.

Frogs are also amphibians. Might that have something to do with "fallen angels"?....... reptilian fallen angels....... maybe angels posing as reptilian aliens??? ..... again, maybe.

Frogs are a strange symbol in Scripture. The only other place in the bible where frogs are mentioned to any extent is in the Exodus Saga.

Frogs were one of the plagues.... they came out of the river and annoyed, aggravated, infuriated, and exasperated the Egyptians ...... in their houses, their beds, during their meals, etc. 

Are the frogs then a symbol of constant wearing on the nerves by persistent aggravation? ......Maybe.

Why do the dragon, beast and false prophet send out these frog demon entities?  Has their power somehow diminished? 

If the antichrist is in command of most of the nations of the earth, in charge of everyone whose names are not written in the Book of Life, and they worship him (AC), then why can't he order the kings of the earth to do what he wants them to? Why does he have to use deceptive spirits?

After Jesus appears in the sky at the 6th seal, it is at that point the antichrist's power is greatly diminished. 

There are two things that Jesus does to the antichrist, and they are mentioned in 2 Thes 2:8:

                                         "And then the lawless one will be revealed whom the Lord will slay with the breath of His                                     mouth and will bring to an end with the brightness of His coming"

                                   Jesus brings him, the antichrist, to nothing or to an end, and then afterwards He will slay him at Armageddon. 

That's why the antichrist has to send evil spirits..... to convince the kings of the world to come to Armageddon.

His power is mostly gone.... he can't order them anymore.... he has to deceive them. So deception be the three spirit-like-frogs is what finally gets the world to Armageddon.

Once the armies get there.........  their fate is sealed, as described in Zechariah 14:12:

                                             "Now this will be the plague with which the Lord will strike  all the peoples

                                     who have gone to war against Jerusalem:

                                     their flesh will rot while they stand on their feet, and their eyes will rot 

                                     in their sockets,

                                     and their tongue will rot in their mouth"

Deception got them to Armageddon.

But...... it's really their refusal to repent that ultimately causes them to experience the last and final plague.

Jesus speaks the Words....and pronounces His final judgment over them.... and they rot while still standing.

 

                                   " And they blasphemed the God of Heaven because of their pains and their sores,

                                                                   and they did not repent"

                                                                                                       Rev 16:11

 

 

 

[Michael37]

7 hours ago, JoeCanada said:

Why does Satan (the dragon) need something extra to fight against Jesus? The Antichrist (the beast) is not enough. Apparent immortality is not enough. Satan and the Antichrist need demon spirits to deceive the kings of the world.

One important aspect of this visual depiction is the obvious presence of three distinct entities who are in alliance but have distinct roles.

Whenever anyone tries to prove one of the beasts is Satan, this passage proves them wrong.

[Diaste]

In doing a little reading about the spiritual meaning of a frog in contemporary 'spiritual' culture, the frog is a symbol of transformation, purity and prosperity, among other ideas. 

It's possible the kings of the earth that are deceived are steeped in the esoteric new age occultism that sees frogs this way; spiritual signs of wealth, prosperity, transformation, purity, etc. 

It's said in Rev 16 these demons are 'like' frogs. The idea being a resemblance to a frog whether that's a marsh leaper or an actual frog. I would think they aren't 'frogs' but bear enough of a likeness that to the kings about to be deceived, it's a frog. 

That semblance would have a message for the soon to be deceived kings that positive change is on the way and with it, wealth, health and prosperity, before the frog said a word, if they speak. I would think in order to complete the deception the frogs would speak, but who knows? 

The deception is the frog brings the message of transformation[of the good kind], wealth and prosperity, when in fact the joining together to battle at Armageddon is their doom. 

Maybe it isn't so much the beast has had his power diminished, as it is the need for messengers to preach their gospel, enticing the kings through the weakness of the flesh and the promise of the multitude of merchandise. 

But idk. I'm just speculating. :)

 

 

 

[Revelation Man]

On 4/25/2024 at 10:41 AM, JoeCanada said:

Are the frogs then a symbol of constant wearing on the nerves by persistent aggravation? ......Maybe.

Why do the dragon, beast and false prophet send out these frog demon entities?  Has their power somehow diminished? 

If the antichrist is in command of most of the nations of the earth, in charge of everyone whose names are not written in the Book of Life, and they worship him (AC), then why can't he order the kings of the earth to do what he wants them to? Why does he have to use deceptive spirits?

After Jesus appears in the sky at the 6th seal, it is at that point the antichrist's power is greatly diminished. 

Firstly, Jesus appears at the 7th Vial, not the 6th Seal, as a matter of fact the 6th Seal is merely a "Prophetic Utterance" only. The Wrath of God does not actually come until the Rev. 8 Asteroid Impact (first 4 Trumps are one event which starts God's wrath which continues with Woe's 1, 2 and 3 and the 3rd Woe is the 7 Vials, and Jesus shows up in Rev. 16:19, at the 7th Vial.

Now lets discuss why I think you are actually pointing towards a very, very important point in time, and why the A.C. needs to send out lying spirits. I will do this by asking you a question about the 6th Seal which FORETELLS what's going to happen when the wrath of God falls and the 7 Trumps contain all of Gods wrath, because the 7 vials emit from the 7th Trump. We know the 6th Seal says these men will hide in caves, too scared to come out, begging to be killed by the rocks. Lets take that info and ponder this.

QUESTION: If you were not of God, and had taken the Mark of the Beast, then this Asteroid strikes, burning a 1/3 of the worlds trees, houses etc. etc. and the 1st Woe of tormenting Demons tormented you for 5 months, then the 200 Million Angels (thats what they are, they DELIVER God's Plagues, Satan CAN NOT kill Satan, Jesus said so) killed 1/3 of those who had taken the Mark of the Beast. Finally the 7th Trump sounds and starts the 3rd Woe, which is the 7 Vials, and as they were poured out men got grievous sores and boils if they had the Mark of the Beast, and they were scorched by the sun, and so......... THE QUESTION IS.........

 

in this case, with all of these plagues pounding down, would you not be "HIDING IN A CAVE"? 

So, the answer is not why doesn't the Anti-Christ have power he does (but ONLY over the E.U. and Mediterranean Sea Region) but of course men are in hiding, he can not raise a standing army per se, BUT............alas, God needs the COWARDS to all gather at Armageddon, so he needs to STOP the plagues long enough to give the Anti-Christ, False Prophet and Satan (Red Dragon) time enough to convince the kings of the WHOLE WORLD and their armies to come against Israel. In so doing Jesus upon his return can then wipe them all out. But its Satan's last gasp desperation Hail Mary. He has to wipe out every Jew in order to prove God is a liar. So, he needs to lie to these cowards cowering in caves, basements etc. etc. 

So, God dries up his PLAGUES not the Euphrates River, which is just is a METAPHOR, long enough so those cowards in hiding can be persuaded to come out of hiding, go to Jerusalem and kill off all the Jews, which is their goal. So, what is the lie? They tell these cowards, kings, men, that those Two Jewish Witnesses wrought all this havoc, they have now been killed, yes they prayed down every plague in public, on national TV before they happened, you all saw it, one by one, they even prayed down the these grievous sores, the scorching sun plague et al., before they died, but now its all STOPPED with the Two-witnesses death, so lets go kill every last Jew so this can NEVER, EVER HAPPEN AGAIN !! And these cowards who have the Mark of the Beast are easily talked into this, but alas we know their fate.

This is the ONLY REASON that the Two-witnesses are even allowed to "die" and be raised, they have Glorious bodies, they do not need to "DIE" to be taken to Heaven right? God allows them to die so those men in caves can be fooled into thinking victory might be possible. We all know modern armies can cross rivers, so why do we not understand this Metaphor? The Euphrates DRYING UP is merely God DRYING UP His Plagues just long enough for these lying demons to entice these cowards into going forth unto the Armageddon Battle where the "SPECTACLE" of Jesus slaying them all by the presence of his coming, will forever be understood as good conquering evil once and for all.

The Anti-Christ is not in control of men per se, he is for a bit. Here is why? The First Four Trumps IMHO, come against the New World (the 1/3) so that will not affect the A.C. he is killing and maiming at will in the E.U. and the Mediterranean Sea Region ONLY, he never conquers the whole world, he conquers the WHOLE EARTH or land being spoken about in the 7 Headed (Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Greece, Rome and the A.C.) 10 Horned (E.U.) Region. The First Woe is merely Demons torturing men for 5 months..........BUT WHO and WHY? I think its like when Moses drew the line and said stand ye this day on God's side or stand ye on their side as he came down with the 10 Commandments. These Demons are allowed by God (1st Woe, its a Plague from God) to torture those who are in limbo via making a decision on God or the Mark of the Beast, imho, not to kill them, but they must choose God or Satan (Mark of the Beast) one way or another, those who chose God will probably be killed after the 5 month period, or instantly by humans, but not by the Demons who can only torture. Then the 2nd Woe is 200 Million Angels whose orders kick in after every person has made a CHOICE, they start killing 1/3 of all men  who have taken the Mark of the Beast these ARE NOT Demons, only Angels will kill Satan's allies, Satan can not kill Satan. Then finally the 3rd Woe comes, like I stated above, at the 6th Vial, God DRIES UP His Plagues (Euphrates River is a Metaphor) in order to ENTICE the cowards to show up at Armageddon.

Edited April 27 by Revelation Man

[JoeCanada]

11 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

Firstly, Jesus appears at the 7th Vial, not the 6th Seal, as a matter of fact the 6th Seal is merely a "Prophetic Utterance" only. The Wrath of God does not actually come unto the Rev. 8 Asteroid Impact (first 4 Trumps are one event which starts God's wrath which continues with Woe's 1, 2 and 3 and the 3rd Woe is the 7 Vials, and Jesus shows up in Rev. 16:19, at the 7th Vial.

Now lets discuss why you are actually pointing towards a very, very important point in time, and why the A.C. needs to send out lying spirits. I will do this by asking you a question about the 6th Seal who FORETELLS what's going to happen when the wrath of God falls and the 7 Trumps contain all of Gods wrath, because the 7 vials emit from the 7th Trump. We know the 6th Seal says these men will hide in caves, too scared to come out, begging to be killed by the rocks. Lets take that info and ponder thus

QUESTION: If you were not of God, and had taken the Mark of the Beast, then this Asteroid strikes, burning a 1/3 of the worlds trees, houses etc. etc. and the 1st Woe of tormenting Demons tormented you for 5 months, then the 200 Million Angels (thats what they are, they DELIVER God's Plagues, Satan CAN NOT kill Satan, Jesus said so) killed 1/3 of those who had taken the Mark of the Beast. Finally the 7th Trump sounds and starts the 3rd Woe, which is the 7 Vials, and as they were poured out men got grievous sores and boils if they had the Mark of the Beast, and they were scorched by the sun, and so......... THE QUESTION IS.........

 

in this case, with all of these plagues pounding down, would you not be "HIDING IN A CAVE"? 

So, the answer is not why doesn't the Anti-Christ have power he does (but ONLY over the E.U. and Mediterranean Sea Region) but of course men are in hiding, he can not raise a standing army per se, BUT............alas, God needs the COWARDS to all gather at Armageddon, so he needs to STOP the plagues long enough to give the Anti-Christ, False Prophet and Satan the Dragon time enough to convince the kings of the WHOLE WORLD and their armies to come against Israel. In so doing Jesus upon his return can then wipe them all out. But its Satan's last gasp desperation Hail Mary. He has to wipe out every Jews in order to prove God i a liar. So, he needs to lie to these cowards cowering in caves, basements etc. etc. 

So, he dries up his PLAGUES not the Euphrates River, which is just is a METAPHOR, long enough so those cowards in hiding can be persuaded to come out of hiding, go to Jerusalem and kill off al the Jews. So, what is the lie? The tell them, those Two Jewish Witnesses wrought all this havoc, they have now been killed, yes they prayed down every plague in public, on national TV before they happened, you all saw it, one by one, they even prayed down the these grievous sores, the scorching sun plague etc. before they died, but now its al STOPPED, so lets go kill every last Jew and this can NEVER, EVER HAPPEN AGAIN !! And these cowards who have the Mark of the Beast are easily talked into this, but alas we know their fate.

This is the ONLY REASON that the Two-witnesses are even allowed to "die" and be raised, they have Glorious bodies, they do not need to "DIE" to be taken to Heaven right? God allows them to die so those men in caves can be fooled into thinking victory might be possible. We all know modern armies can cross rivers, so why do we not understand this Metaphor? The Euphrates DRYING UP is merely God DRYING UP His Plagues just long enough for these lying demons to entice these coward unto the Armageddon Battle where the "SPECTACLE" of Jesus slaying them all by the presence of his coming, will forever be understood as good conquering evil once and for all. The Anti-Christ is not in control of men per se, he is for a bit. Here is why? The First Four Trumps IMHO, come against the New World (the 1/3) so that will not affect the A.C. he is killing and maiming at will in the E.U. and the Mediterranean Sea Region ONLY, he never conquers the whole world, he conquers the WHOLE EARTH or land being spoken about in the 7 Headed (Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Greece, Rome and the A.C.) 10 Horned (E.U.) Region. The First Woe is merely Demons torturing men for 5 months..........BUT WHO and WHY? I think its like when Moses drew the line and said stand ye this day on God's side or stand ye on their side as he came down with the 10 Commandments. These Demons are allowed by God (1st Woe, its a Plague from God) to torture those who are in limbo imho, not to kill them, but they must choose God or Satan (Mark of the Beast) one way or another, those who chose God will probably be killed after the 5 month period, or instantly by humans, but not by the Demons who can only torture. Then the 2nd Woe is 200 Million Angels who orders kick in after every person has made a CHOICE, they start killing 1/3 of all men  who have taken the Mark of the Beast these ARE NOT Demons, only Angels will kill Satan's allies, Satan can not kill Satan. Then finally the 3rd Woe comes, like I stated above, at the 6th Vial, God DRIES UP His Plagues (Euphrates River is a Metaphor) in order to ENTICE the cowards to show up at Armageddon.

Rev man.... thanks for your response.

Once again we are going to butt heads.

Now, with all due respect..... I find myself in total disagreement with pretty much everything you have shared.

As you have many, many times declared.... "I have been called to prophecy.... I now more than anyone else about Revelation, and prophecy"..... 

Please correct me if I am wrong..... and that you didn't say those things.

Because you are pre-trib.... I have a really hard time believing anything you say/interpret about Revelation, Daniel, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Joel, Isaiah... Matthew, Thes 1&2, Corinthians, Luke.... etc.

You say that you will be out of here BEFORE the 70th week of Daniel starts... before the Great Tribulation.... and then you go about trying to interpret the Book of Rev, the Book of Daniel....etc

Why should anyone believe you?

And please.... don't tell us that you are leaving information for those who are "left behind"

Anything that doesn't line up with the pre-trib dogma falls into the category of... metaphor, analogy, its prose...it doesn't really mean that.... its anything but what is actually written. 

Its like you are saying that God the Holy Spirit has Alzheimer's or something..... like He can't say what He means. 

Euphrates River is a metaphor for "plagues"?

ROFL.... you're killing me brother. 

[Revelation Man]

On 4/26/2024 at 9:34 PM, JoeCanada said:

Rev man.... thanks for your response.

Once again we are going to butt heads.

Now, with all due respect..... I find myself in total disagreement with pretty much everything you have shared.

As you have many, many times declared.... "I have been called to prophecy.... I now more than anyone else about Revelation, and prophecy"..... 

Please correct me if I am wrong..... and that you didn't say those things.

Well, for starters you are in error, I stated I know more bout End Time Eschatology than anyone I have ever met, seen, read et al. That is not all prophecy, that is not my calling per se. All this has been given unto me in the last 8 or so years since I had my heart attack. I see things others do not see, and as a guy who never has been one to say things I do not know, for 30 years I did not know these things, God has chosen to reveal them now, too many people have their own agenda. But I have always been able to hear the voice of the Lord, I can tell if something is of God or not in 5 minutes, but God was not ready to unlock everything until the very end, so I did not speak on that which I did not know for 30 years, thats not my style. 

Here is what gets me, you expect me to pretend I do not know what I do know I guess and say I do not understand what I do understand, that is so very amusing. All because you can not understand the things I put forth, well maybe that is on you brother, because when you get to heaven and find out everything I put forth was factual, then you will understand my calling is my calling, not your calling. I wonder why God told me in a 1986 Vision "The Man of Sin is Here" or am I just a loud talking fibber type? 

I put out things not everyone can grasp because many are not willing to step back from things they learned previously. Well, I learned things for 30 years, and when I prayed unto God and asked why we as a church are not all in one accord and getting the end time blessings and UNDERSTANDINGS God promised in Daniel, that's when I got this......"Ron, you guys already know it all" 

So, unlike others, I understood I had to do one thing, throw all my 100 percent beliefs in the trash unless they were concrete pillars imbedded in Gods truths. The 144,000 Super Preachers came from men, not God. So, do I know more about end time Eschatology than anyone I have ever read, met, heard or talked unto? Yes, I can not fib and tell you differently. 

So, I know what country the A.C. is born in (Dan. 8:9) I know where he arises to power (E.U. Dan . 7:7-8) I know he has to have Assyrian Blood (Isaiah 10) I know ALL THREE have to mesh and he's an old Turk/Iraqi, born in Greece which qualifies him to be the Anti-Christ running the E.U. 

I know that the False Prophet has to be a Jewish High Priest, because I studied Dan. 11 & 12 via an Exegesis. I discovered a man named Jason (Its HARD WORK and I get REWARDED !! With knowledge, yes) who bribed Antiochus to become the High Priest, his real name was Yeshua, his brother was a pious high priest named Onias III hes the one spoken of in Dan. 11:22-23 who gets killed. So, Antiochus was the archetype A.C. and he has a Jewish SIDEKICK archetype False Prophet who welcomed Antiochus into the temple of God to sacrifice a pig unto Zeus (which caused Hanukkah, the cleansing of the temple) Jason then mandated that all Jews become Hellenized, leading unto the Maccabean Revolt. So, we know the End Time Anti-Christ will be a Greek born President of the E.U. and he will have a Jewish High Priest SIDEKICK whom he pressures from afar to stop Jesus Worship not to take away some PROFANE MEAT SACRIFICE. How do I know? Because Israel repents BEFORE the DOTL arrives, as both Malachi 4:5 where Elijah is sent back before the DOTL says and Zech. 13:8-9 agrees, which says the 1/3 repent, and then in Zech. 14:1 the DOTL arrives, in the very next verse. 

So, if Israel repents before God's Wrath falls (it does) then those Jews who repented are not sacrificing a profane MEAT SACRIICE, they are worshiping Jesus their Messiah in the temple. Of course when one doesn't grasp the obvious, that the 1335 comes 1335 days before the 2nd coming of Jesus and that it is the coming Two-witnesses, or doesn't understand that the 1290 CAN NOT BE......the Anti-Christ, it can only be the False Prophet, the A.C. only Conquers Israel 30 days later at the 1260, then they get all bound up in their own false notions. So, when people refuse to heed these deep truths, of course they are not going to grasp other things which align themselves either. But I am correct on Eschatology, the scriptures bear this out. Everything I say about the 1335, 1290 and 1260 is confirmed, and gets dodged by others who can not even begin to comprehend this it seems. You see, only what I just stated above makes any sense at all as per unto the 1290 not being the A.C. because the Beast would not allow the Jews to flee Judea if he had already conquered them AND............why would God give them a sign AFTER they had been conquered? That makes no sense at all.  BUT...........the 1290 being the False Prophet makes perfect sense, the Jews have 30 days to flee Judea........BUT............Like me for 30 years people 'just know the 1290 has to be the A.C." like most others think also, so they get tunnel vision which they can not get past. Also, is the 1335 Blessing really the Two-witnesses, does it fit? Lets test it.

Of course it does, I don't just tell, people something is of God without knowing, without testing the spirits my man. BOTH the A.C. and Two-witnesses have 1260 day Ordained Offices by God, and the Two-witnesses DIE FIRST, I have told you this before, and or others here, of course its not what we learned as youths so it can not be correct right?  But, it is correct, they die at the end of the 2nd Woe, the A.C. dies at the 7th Vial, the Two-witnesses show up BEFORE the DOTL (1260) they are the 1335 Blessing. There is basically NO WAY of understanding all the end time Eschatological goings on until one grasps the 1335, 1290 and 1260 are in that order, the Two-witnesses show, the False Prophet then stops Jesus worship an d places the European Union Presidents Image up in the Temple, then LASTLY comes the Anti-Christ onto the scene as The Beast who Conquers Israel. Until anyone can fully grasp this understanding they CAN NOT understand end time eschatology in full. PERIOD. But, people cling to things we all "KNEW" before God was ready to "REVEAL" His deep truths, and thus it blocks us from  hearing those deep truths. How can God tell the Church who the 144,000 are when the Church insists its 144,000 Jewish Mega Preachers?

I can see who they are because I understand the Seals are not real events, they are Jesus pointing unto Gods coming Wrath via the 7 Trumps. Then we can understand they are a code, just like the 10 Virgins, it amuses me people admit the 10 Virgins can stand for the COMPETE Church, but God can not then use 12 x 12 (Fulness x Fulness) x 10 x 10 x 10 (Completeness) and see that is God saying the 144,000 is ALL Israel (Fulness x Completeness) who repent and then  flee Judea, but alas, many will never give in to the obvious. These are the Jews who repent and Flee Judea...........It FITS THE NARRATIVE..........the Seals are Jesus saying what is about to hit,  when the 7th Seal (WHY is it over in Rev. 8 ? WHY) is finally taken off the Scroll. So, in Rev. 7 God is like HOLD UP the four winds (Judgments) and HURT NOT the Trees, Seas and Earth until these (Jews who repent) have been SEALED (Saved) and PROTECTED !! Well, what Hurts the Earth, Seas and Trees? The Rev. 8 Trumps.........Its obvious that the 144.000 are about 5 Million Jews who are fleeing Judea. How can you HOLD UP Gods Wrath in Rev. 7 if it begins in Rev. 6? 

Only if one can see ALL THIS........Does the Covenant in Dan. 9:27 become very, very clear as per unto what it is. The False Prophet is the Anti-Christs right hand man, and from FROM AFAR he follows the dictates of the E.U. President, BUT WHY? Well, that makes no sense unless Israel joins the E.U. after the Gog and Magog scare, Satan is intelligent, he's going to feint one way, and the E.U. will help, but Satan knows the word of God, He knows God is going to wipe out the armies of Russia, Turkey and Iran, leaving a void in the region, so he's going to BUDDY UP to Israel to get her to join the E.U. and convince them to give up their Nukes. Read the European Neighborhood Policy(EPN), Israel and every nation in North Africa and Lebanon, Syria & Jordan have signed onto the ENP. 

When Israel joins the E.U. that sets off God's ANGER and the 70th week, the Time of the Gentiles [SERVICE to God] is come full, the Rapture happens at the same point in time. 

 

On 4/26/2024 at 9:34 PM, JoeCanada said:

Because you are pre-trib.... I have a really hard time believing anything you say/interpret about Revelation, Daniel, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Joel, Isaiah... Matthew, Thes 1&2, Corinthians, Luke.... etc.

 

Which is you repeating my points towards anyone who is not Pre Trib. via Eschatology. This is not even hard tbh. I can poke holes in everything but pre 70th week easily. 

 

On 4/26/2024 at 9:34 PM, JoeCanada said:

You say that you will be out of here BEFORE the 70th week of Daniel starts... before the Great Tribulation.... and then you go about trying to interpret the Book of Rev, the Book of Daniel....etc

 

All this is true, anyone who can't understand the pre 70th week rapture, I do not buy into much they say about Prophecy, its my creed.

On 4/26/2024 at 9:34 PM, JoeCanada said:

Why should anyone believe you?

And please.... don't tell us that you are leaving information for those who are "left behind"

Anything that doesn't line up with the pre-trib dogma falls into the category of... metaphor, analogy, its prose...it doesn't really mean that.... its anything but what is actually written. 

No, you are in error. NOTICE what you always do, you DODGE every point I make because 1.) You don't read or 2.) You can not overcome my points. So, have you tried to debate any point I made above? No, and its the same way every time. Any point you make I do not agree with I can show in scriptures why I disagree, you just dodge every time. Anyone who dodges admits defeat on a debate brother. 

Revelation is ENCODED with the Old Testament, Daniel is a set of riddles, not codes so much. 

 

On 4/26/2024 at 9:34 PM, JoeCanada said:

Euphrates River is a metaphor for "plagues"?

ROFL.... you're killing me brother. 

But that leaves you not understanding Modern Armies can CROSS RIVERS. That leaves your opening questions still in the lurch when its pretty easy stuff to me. How is God going to get the cowards to come unto Jerusalem? By STOPPING HIS PLAGUES. Whether you can  grasp the obvious or not is on you. You asked the question, and seemingly have no answer, I have had this answer for a while now. You think like men brother. A man thinking like men can not see the riddles of God via Eschatology, then again its been my calling for 40 years. It will all come unto you soon in heaven my friend. 

Edited April 28 by Revelation Man

[JoeCanada]

On 4/26/2024 at 7:27 AM, Revelation Man said:

Firstly, Jesus appears at the 7th Vial, not the 6th Seal, as a matter of fact the 6th Seal is merely a "Prophetic Utterance" only.

supporting scripture please

[Revelation Man]

On 4/27/2024 at 6:01 PM, JoeCanada said:

supporting scripture please

Rev. 16:15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done. 18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.

19 And the great city was divided into three parts(Jesus splits the Mt. of Olives), and the cities of the nations fell(Jesus defeats all the Nations who GATHERED at Armageddon...COME ON man): and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath. (Babylon = the Whole World under Satan's DECEPTIONS)

Pstt, Rev. 11 the 7th Trump does not give the DETAILS of the coming 3rd Woe, JUST LIKE the 2nd Woe is mentioned in Rev. 11 but we also only get the DETAILS of the 2nd Woe in Rev. 9 !! Likewise we get the DETAILS of the 3rd Woe, which we know emits from the 7th Trump as (Rev. 8:13 MANDATES),only in Rev. 16, which is the real timeline, every other chapter after Rev. 9 (except 16) is a Parenthetical Citation. Rev. 11 is speaking only about the Two-witnesses 1260 day timeline, but they pray down all of the plagues, so 1335 days have to be covered by saying it ends in VICTORY, the details however are in Rev. 16. In Rev. 14 we see the End Time Harvesting of the wicked Grapes being placed in God's Wine-press just like we see in Rev. 16:19 it is the SAME EVENT. Lastly, in Rev. 19:17-20 that is also the exact same event as Rev. 16:19. Until one grasps the Chronological Order of the book of Revelation, its easy to get turned around in, like a maze, but the verses I quoted show the 7th Vial is Armageddon. 

It matches Joel chapter 2 and Zechariah 14. 

Edited April 29 by Revelation Man

[Retrobyter]

On 4/25/2024 at 11:41 AM, JoeCanada said:

                                                                  THREE FROGS........... "Ribbit"

Rev 16:13-14:

                     " I saw coming out of the mouth of the dragon and out of the mouth of the beast

                        and out of the mouth of the false prophet, three unclean spirits like frogs;

                        for they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go out to the kings of

                  the whole world, to gather them together for the war of the great day of God, the Almighty"

Why does Satan (the dragon) need something extra to fight against Jesus? The Antichrist (the beast) is not enough. Apparent immortality is not enough. Satan and the Antichrist need demon spirits to deceive the kings of the world.

And what does the symbol of a frog mean?

They, frogs, come out of the "mouths" of the dragon, the antichrist and the false prophet. They issue forth from these three.

Might they have something to do with "words".... as they "come out of their mouths"? .... maybe.

Frogs are also amphibians. Might that have something to do with "fallen angels"?....... reptilian fallen angels....... maybe angels posing as reptilian aliens??? ..... again, maybe.

Shalom, JoeCanada.

One might also consider this truth: Bullfrogs NEVER SLEEP! They have short periods of inactivity in which they are merely waiting for the next victim, but they are ALWAYS AWARE! During mating seasons, they can croak all night and often in the daytime, too, as long as they are not discovered by predators.

(Amphibians are NOT the same as reptiles. Amphibians have no scales or teeth; they have smoothe skin, and they spend half of their lives in water. Reptiles have scales, often have teeth, and they are NOT "slimy" but dry and rough to the touch, and they are most at home on land, although some are adapted to bodies of water, such as aligators, crocodiles, and some snakes).

On 4/25/2024 at 11:41 AM, JoeCanada said:

Frogs are a strange symbol in Scripture. The only other place in the bible where frogs are mentioned to any extent is in the Exodus Saga.

Frogs were one of the plagues.... they came out of the river and annoyed, aggravated, infuriated, and exasperated the Egyptians ...... in their houses, their beds, during their meals, etc. 

Are the frogs then a symbol of constant wearing on the nerves by persistent aggravation? ......Maybe.

Why do the dragon, beast and false prophet send out these frog demon entities?  Has their power somehow diminished? 

If the antichrist is in command of most of the nations of the earth, in charge of everyone whose names are not written in the Book of Life, and they worship him (AC), then why can't he order the kings of the earth to do what he wants them to? Why does he have to use deceptive spirits?

Actually, I don't think their "power has somehow diminished." I believe it's more a symbol of their URGENCY to make an impact on the earth and its inhabitants before their power is over!

On 4/25/2024 at 11:41 AM, JoeCanada said:

After Jesus appears in the sky at the 6th seal, it is at that point the antichrist's power is greatly diminished. 

There are two things that Jesus does to the antichrist, and they are mentioned in 2 Thes 2:8:

                                         "And then the lawless one will be revealed whom the Lord will slay with the breath of His                                     mouth and will bring to an end with the brightness of His coming"

                                   Jesus brings him, the antichrist, to nothing or to an end, and then afterwards He will slay him at Armageddon. 

That's why the antichrist has to send evil spirits..... to convince the kings of the world to come to Armageddon.

His power is mostly gone.... he can't order them anymore.... he has to deceive them. So deception be the three spirit-like-frogs is what finally gets the world to Armageddon.

Once the armies get there.........  their fate is sealed, as described in Zechariah 14:12:

                                             "Now this will be the plague with which the Lord will strike  all the peoples

                                     who have gone to war against Jerusalem:

                                     their flesh will rot while they stand on their feet, and their eyes will rot 

                                     in their sockets,

                                     and their tongue will rot in their mouth"

Deception got them to Armageddon.

But...... it's really their refusal to repent that ultimately causes them to experience the last and final plague.

Jesus speaks the Words....and pronounces His final judgment over them.... and they rot while still standing.

 

                                   " And they blasphemed the God of Heaven because of their pains and their sores,

                                                                   and they did not repent"

                                                                                                       Rev 16:11

 

 

 

That may be so. But, to make this more real to people, one should know that "Armageddon" is a REAL PLACE that still exists to this day! The Greek word is a transliteration of the Hebrew phrase, "Har Megiddown," which means "Mountain of Megiddow." It is called "Tel-Megiddo" today (See Tel-Megiddo-Armageddon-national-park.) As you look at the arial shots of the mount, the farmlands below it to the north are called the "Plain of Jezre'el" (יִזְרְעֶאל or Yizr`e'l) is a 380-square-kilometer plot of ground that was often used by armies as a staging area before attacks. The "tel" or "mountain" was a look-out point for the battles fought below, it was also the "guard-tower" at the cross roads between mountains, where the Israeli roads, like today's Highways 66 and 65, now exist.

[JoeCanada]

On 4/27/2024 at 10:41 PM, Revelation Man said:

Firstly, Jesus appears at the 7th Vial, not the 6th Seal, as a matter of fact the 6th Seal is merely a "Prophetic Utterance" only.

I should have been more specific.

Can you provide any supporting scripture for this...."as a matter of fact the 6th Seal is merely a "Prophetic Utterance" only.