THREE FROGS.... "Ribbit"

[Revelation Man]

2 hours ago, JoeCanada said:

I should have been more specific.

Can you provide any supporting scripture for this...."as a matter of fact the 6th Seal is merely a "Prophetic Utterance" only.

I got you....thought you was referring to the 2nd coming point as seen at the 7th vial and asking where I got that understanding.

For starters Jesus can not appear at the 6th Seal and the 7th Trump at the same time unless one tries to comingle the timelines of all the Seals, Trumps and Vials. But lets put that off for now and deal with your push-back question above.

We know the Anti-Christ can not come forth until the Wrath of God falls, that's what 2 Thess. 2 says as well many other passages in the bible even if people do not quite get this in full. 

Revelation has a flow to it, we see in Rev. 1 Jesus in all his Glory, our Eternal God (the Redeemer). In Rev. 2 & 3 we see the Church Age (7 = Divine Completion) via the 7 Churches. In Rev. 4 & 5 we see the Church in Heaven with Jesus as Jesus is shown as worthy to open the Seals, every qualifier that Rev. 2 & 3  says must be met to gain heaven as a believer is met in  Rev. 4:4.  In  Rev. 6 we see the Seals opened.....BUT, the 7 Seal is put off until Rev. 8 WHY? Then in Rev. 7, once we understand everything we can see this is nothing more that the 1/3 Jews who repented fleeing Judea. God says hold up the four winds (His Wrath) until we can seal or protect these Jews (144,000 is a CODE its 1/3 and we know 1/3 NOW is 5 million or so Jews) which means "get them saved" and "Harbor them in the Petra/Bozrah area" THEN and "only then" can God's Wrath fall at the Rev. 8 Trumpet Judgments, which is what the 7 Sealed Scroll contains, its only opened via the 7th Seal which binds it.

Now the Wrath of God can  come forth at the middle of the week (1260) event. The Jews who repented or listened to Moses and Elijah (the 1335 blessing) flee at the 1290, not the 1260 after they are conquered, they get a 30 day notice to flee Judea, the False Prophet is the one who places the image, Rev. 13 says so right? The 2nd Beast gets the people to make an image of the first beast and thus the Anti-Christ only becomes the "Beast" over Israel 30 days later. Then we can see the Wrath in chapters 8, 9 and 16. However, we do not see anything about the Anti-Christ in Rev. 8, 9 nor 16, we can see that in Chapters 12, 13 and 17. They have the exact same timelines in those three chapters as Rev. 8, 9 and 16 in total, 1260 days in each case.

Now, no one can grasp the points I am about to make without understanding the TIMELINES above, its impossible. The Chronological Order of the Book of Revelation has to be laid out first.

Now THE QUESTION at hand ? as a matter of fact the 6th Seal is merely a "Prophetic Utterance" only.

Notice this, its very important, we see the Anti-Christ in verses 1-5, and the Wrath of God in Seal #6, but they both cover the exact same 42 months or 1260 days as each chapter (12, 13 and 17&18) shows we see mentioned 1260 days in each one. In Rev. 17 it says the 10 kings (E.U.) rule ONE HOUR with the Beast (42 months has to = ONE HOUR then) and in Rev. 18 we see Babylon is Judged in ONE HOUR (42 months).  We get they keys in all things via the 1260 days. 

So, how can we see God's Wrath until the 7th Seal is taken off? How can we see God's Wrath before His instrument of wrath, and asteroid, hits in Rev. 8? Its not possible, how can God hold up the wrath and protect protect the 144,000 (1/3 or 5 million) in Rev. 7 if the wrath has already fallen in Rev. 6? That is counter intuitive. Now lets look at each set introspectively by using the verses in each chapter to guide us.

Rev. 8 and 16 sees the 7 Trumps and 7 Vials brought forth by Angels ACTIONS, Rev. 6 sees no such thing

Rev. 8:1 And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour. 2 And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given seven trumpets..........

6 And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound.  7 The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up. 8 And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood;.............

10 And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters; (Wormwood)

12 And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise.

Rev. 16:1 And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth. 2 And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image.

Now lets look at Rev. chapter 6

Rev. 6:1 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see. (It is a VISION not an ACTION that brings a plague) 2 And I saw, and behold a white horse(A.C.): and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer(1260 days ONLY).

3 And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see. 4 And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another:(War) and there was given unto him a great sword.

So, in each case we see a theme, in the Seals the covering Angels in Heaven as Jesus opens the Seals say COME AND SEE, which is them showing John what is soon to come, but only once the 7th seal is off. However, in Rev. 8 and Rev. 16 we see in each chapter, in each Trump or Vial, an ACTION brings God's Wrath or a a Plague in each case. We se no such thing in Rev. 6. But what we do see is the Coming Anti-Christs 42 month rule described to a tee in Seals 1-5 and the coming Wrath of God also described to a tee, but both can only start once God's Wrath falls in Rev. 8, because the Anti-Christ can not go forth conquering until the Wrath of God falls (Rev. 8) and the coming Wrath is described at the 6th Seal, and it MATCHES to a tee the First Four Trumps as seen in Rev. 8, the Fires bring smoke, the Impact in the Sea, the Fallout that poisons the fresh waters and lastly at the Fourth Trump the sun and moon dims because of all the smoke that dims the sun by 1/3. 

The 7th Seal is the key, its over in Rev. 8 for a reason. As per expecting scriptures that explicitly says this or that, do not expect it, God gives us these scriptures and expects those who seek the answers to dig deep and get them. No one knew Jesus was coming (basically) because God does not give us date and time, He gives us inferences. Jesus was to be born in Bethlehem AND he was to also come out of Egypt, but HOW? By fleeing to Egypt as a baby !! The Seals all need to be off before the Trumps can be brought forth. 

Lets say you have 7 locks on a closet door, you have a bunch of old movie posters in there worth lots of money. As you open each lock you describe a different poster to friends who are at your house, as you get to the 6th lock you describe an authentic Gone with the Wind poster. Yet, as you start to take off the 7th lock, not one of your friends have yet to see any of the posters right? however there is now no need to say anything, you just stay silent and open the 7th lock, knowing your friends will soon see it all in just a few moments. The Seals are the exact same thing, not one Trumpet Judgment can be brought forth until the Scroll is opened up and read aloud. 

Add in the facts that in Rev. 8 God is like HOLD UP the Four Winds (Judgments) that HURT the Earth, Sea and Trees, until we seal up the 144,000 (5 million fleeing Jews) and protect them. Thus we KNOW the Wrath only hits in Rev. 8.