IS THE UNPARDONABLE SIN - SINGULAR?

[FreeGrace]

2 hours ago, Dennis1209 said:

When this COVID-19 fiasco broke out, they interrupted all previous protocols and had it developed and distributed in less than a year. In my little town, we had traffic jams for several days and a line of cars a mile long to get the jab. Seeing all that reminded me of the mark of the beast.

Whatever this mark turns out to be, the distribution appears to be completed in about the same amount of time, given the context of the time following the abomination that makes desolate.

I will not detail or speculate my thoughts, but there has to be a great incentive and benefit (other than buying and selling or dying) for people to butt lines to get it, as it appears.

These RFID implant chips for animals (what they now contain and could contain), wealthy people, and officials subjected to kidnapping, conditions of employment, etc., are becoming very interesting in light of prophetic scripture.

It now does not leap into imagination anymore to see how all this is coming together with advanced technology, robotics, artificial intelligence, nanotechnology, 5G, the global constellation of satellites via Space X and Elon Musk, etc.

Interesting times!

Indeed!  btw, I love your quote of Acts 17:11 in your posts.  That verse has been my verification method for years!  

[FreeGrace]

2 hours ago, Marathoner said:

I understand that not coming to Christ places one with dead who are resurrected to be judged (ref. Revelation 20), but bear in mind that not all of the dead are cast into the lake of fire. Only those whose names are not written in the book of life are cast into the lake of fire.

That's not ALL of the dead. 

The Bible teaches that there will be 2 distinct resurrections;  one for the saved and one for the unsaved.  Dan 12:2, John 5:29, Acts 24:15.

1 Cor 15:23 is clear that all believers from all time (Adam forward) will be resurrection "when He comes".

Rev 20 clearly indicates that the FIRST resurrection (of believers) is 1,000 years before the second one.  So the 2 resurrections are bookends for the Millennial reign of the King.

King Jesus returns to earth at the Second Advent, holds the Bema, and rules the mortal nations for 1,000 years.  Then ends the battle of Gog and Magog by frying everyone on earth.  Of course, all believers will be in resurrection bodies that are imperishable and cannot die.

Then we read about the GWT judgment in Rev 20:11-15.  All unbelievers will appear in their resurrected but mortal bodies, and judged and then cast into the lake of fire, only to die physically AGAIN.

That is why the lake of fire is also called the "second death" several times in Rev.

[Logostician]

John 3:18

He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

[Your closest friendnt]

4 hours ago, FreeGrace said:

The Bible teaches that there will be 2 distinct resurrections;  one for the saved and one for the unsaved.  Dan 12:2, John 5:29, Acts 24:15.

1 Cor 15:23 is clear that all believers from all time (Adam forward) will be resurrection "when He comes".

Rev 20 clearly indicates that the FIRST resurrection (of believers) is 1,000 years before the second one.  So the 2 resurrections are bookends for the Millennial reign of the King.

King Jesus returns to earth at the Second Advent, holds the Bema, and rules the mortal nations for 1,000 years.  Then ends the battle of Gog and Magog by frying everyone on earth.  Of course, all believers will be in resurrection bodies that are imperishable and cannot die.

Then we read about the GWT judgment in Rev 20:11-15.  All unbelievers will appear in their resurrected but mortal bodies, and judged and then cast into the lake of fire, only to die physically AGAIN.

That is why the lake of fire is also called the "second death" several times in Rev.

I do not see these things written in the scriptures. None of the disciples preached those things. Definitely not Peter to whom Jesus said that you will come to me not now but after you die. After your earthly body cannot sustain life in it and your heart stops beating. You have to live your earthly tabernacle behind. 

New International Version
I think it is right to refresh your memory as long as I live in the tent of this body,

New Living Translation
And it is only right that I should keep on reminding you as long as I live.

English Standard Version
I think it right, as long as I am in this body, to stir you up by way of reminder,

Berean Standard Bible
I think it is right to refresh your memory as long as I live in the tent of my body,

2 Peter 1:14 Berean Literal Bible
knowing that the putting off of my tabernacle is impending, as also our Lord Jesus Christ has made clear to me.

King James Bible
Knowing that shortly I must put off this my tabernacle, even as our Lord Jesus Christ hath shewed me. 

Edited May 9 by Your closest friendnt

[other one]

6 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said:

In the first sentence of your post the word Hell is not a word from the scriptures before the sirculation of some

It is the common word used today for the fiery place where Satan and the False prophets are thrown.  You are just playing with words, you know what I was meaning.

[Your closest friendnt]

19 minutes ago, other one said:

It is the common word used today for the fiery place where Satan and the False prophets are thrown.  You are just playing with words, you know what I was meaning.

I understand what you meant to say it was about the place where those who died refusing to believe in Jesus Christ are destined to go. I was not playing with words and I did not say for any other reason but to inform that some of the translator had decided to used this word instead of the original who conects to a different context as when Jesus said in Revelation one "I have the keys of Death and Hades and in Revelation twenty the Death and Hades gave up their dead. Which has a context and the word Hell cannot be used as the reference it is of the place of the dead before the Cross and Hell is the reference to the Place where Jesus judges the final place of Jesus Christ judgment for those who refused to believe in him till the time of their death.  Hell is synonymous with the final destination of the unbelievers who had the chance for Heaven by believing in Jesus Christ. Before the Cross the people were held their waiting for things to come as the things about Jesus Christ triumph over Death and Hades as he took the keys from both of them...I looked into that and this is why I wanted to make the distinction. You are one of the people really respect since the time when you volunteer to let me know how to used the words "I choose to defer, when I had used the word different in some way. 

[FreeGrace]

11 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said:

 

FreeGrace said:

The Bible teaches that there will be 2 distinct resurrections;  one for the saved and one for the unsaved.  Dan 12:2, John 5:29, Acts 24:15.

1 Cor 15:23 is clear that all believers from all time (Adam forward) will be resurrection "when He comes".

Rev 20 clearly indicates that the FIRST resurrection (of believers) is 1,000 years before the second one.  So the 2 resurrections are bookends for the Millennial reign of the King.

I do not see these things written in the scriptures.

Please look up the verses I gave.  Then correct me if I am wrong.

11 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said:

None of the disciples preached those things. Definitely not Peter to whom Jesus said that you will come to me not now but after you die.

John did.  John 5:19 and Rev 20:1-6.  And whoever finished the book of Daniel.  12:2

And Paul wrote 1 Cor 15:23 which says ALL believers will be resurrected "when He comes".  

11 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said:

After your earthly body cannot sustain life in it and your heart stops beating. You have to live your earthly tabernacle behind.

What does this have to do with how many resurrections there are.

11 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said:

 

New International Version
I think it is right to refresh your memory as long as I live in the tent of this body,

New Living Translation
And it is only right that I should keep on reminding you as long as I live.

English Standard Version
I think it right, as long as I am in this body, to stir you up by way of reminder,

Berean Standard Bible
I think it is right to refresh your memory as long as I live in the tent of my body,

2 Peter 1:14 Berean Literal Bible
knowing that the putting off of my tabernacle is impending, as also our Lord Jesus Christ has made clear to me.

King James Bible
Knowing that shortly I must put off this my tabernacle, even as our Lord Jesus Christ hath shewed me. 

I don't see a point in these verses that are about how many resurrections there will be.

[Neighbor]

16 hours ago, Dennis1209 said:

When this COVID-19 fiasco broke out, they interrupted all previous protocols and had it developed and distributed in less than a year. In my little town, we had traffic jams for several days and a line of cars a mile long to get the jab. Seeing all that reminded me of the mark of the beast.

Over a half century ago "we" were all lined up at the town fire station to receive the cup, three times we were lined up to receive a cup with a vaccine loaded sugar cube in it. Then  a year or so later we were lined up again to receive a "shot" an air gun delivery of the Salk vaccine against polio yet again. Guess we all took "the mark"  back then eh?

Prior to even that I took the mark three times with a broken glass vial into my left arm that was used to administer evidence of being "vaccinated" and being safe to be with others.

Yet another time I was exposed deliberately to German measles so that all of us kids were exposed and "herd immunized" against having it later in life.

Oh oh "Here's your sign." Well then again maybe not, eh?

Maybe it is all just medical treatment some good some excellent and some perhaps not actually needed. But then there are all those massive graves that were dug during covid 19, seems some had a serious problem, and died from it, that was NOT related to a vaccine.

Vaccines and illnesses, doesn't seem to be  anything to do with the mark of the beast to me.

[Dennis1209]

2 hours ago, Neighbor said:

Over a half century ago "we" were all lined up at the town fire station to receive the cup, three times we were lined up to receive a cup with a vaccine loaded sugar cube in it. Then  a year or so later we were lined up again to receive a "shot" an air gun delivery of the Salk vaccine against polio yet again. Guess we all took "the mark"  back then eh?

Prior to even that I took the mark three times with a broken glass vial into my left arm that was used to administer evidence of being "vaccinated" and being safe to be with others.

Yet another time I was exposed deliberately to German measles so that all of us kids were exposed and "herd immunized" against having it later in life.

Oh oh "Here's your sign." Well then again maybe not, eh?

Maybe it is all just medical treatment some good some excellent and some perhaps not actually needed. But then there are all those massive graves that were dug during covid 19, seems some had a serious problem, and died from it, that was NOT related to a vaccine.

Vaccines and illnesses, doesn't seem to be  anything to do with the mark of the beast to me.

You misconstrued the intent of my example. I am not arguing for the good, bad, or otherwise of the COVID vaccination, to each their own. It was a voluntary decision that governments tried to make mandatory, resulting in penalties, harassment, and social isolation. I emphasized how quickly something can be implemented globally and compared it to the MOB.

I am not so ignorant to think a vaccination could be the M.O.B., nor imply it. 

To define the meaning of fiasco, I used. There was no official clarification or consensus on where and how it occurred. Mosques, synagogues, etc., were not harassed, fined, or jailed, only churches, to my knowledge. Liquor stores and porn shops were deemed essential services and remained open, not to mention the Congressional hearings with Anthony Fauci with what was discovered.

[Neighbor]

Hi,

If church bodies were not being targeted I think I would be more concerned.

The abrasions inflicted make us stronger than otherwise we all might have been without having received them.

As to the unforgivable sin, seems to me if God is God he need not be a trickster, and is not one. He is God and an unforgivable sin or even sins if that were possible need not be my concern.  Really I don't see a Christian being worried about it nor do I see a non Christian being aware of it either for they deny God in the first place.

In fact the unforgivable sin may have been  attributed only to the Scribes  that  claimed  the Holy Spirit to be Satan, or Satan led spirit, empowering Jesus.