When did the woman flee into the wilderness?

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13 hours ago, Stewardofthemystery said:

The problem with that theory is, there were no signs in the Sun, moon and stars in 1967.

This is true, but the signs that you are looking for are centered on the times before and after the 70 AD destruction.

 

13 hours ago, Stewardofthemystery said:

 Also the Gentiles (Islam) are still in Jerusalem and they still have a Mosque on the Mount.

This is true, but the armies of Israel control the mount and their are no foreign armies that control any part of Jerusalem. This fulfills the requirement of Lk 21:24 to restore Jerusalem.

 

13 hours ago, Stewardofthemystery said:

Also the Jewish in people in bulk have yet to believe that Jesus is their Messiah.

If you are looking for a mass conversion of the people in Israel for the future, it won't happen. This will be shown by Jerusalem falling in the near future.

There are presently 10's of thousands of Israel who have become Christian.

But as far as the nation is concerned, if they did have a majority become Christians, then the protection of God would be over them. As it stands now, there are not enough for that to happen, just like 70 AD.

 

13 hours ago, Stewardofthemystery said:

 All this proves to me that 1967 is not the time mark of “the fulness of the Gentiles.”

Again, it seems that you are confusing the "times of the gentiles" ruling over Jerusalem, with the fullness of the gentiles which is related to the conversion of the gentiles. They are related, but are separate entities.

 

13 hours ago, Stewardofthemystery said:

I believe it is coming soon, but it will be “marked by the events” I mentioned in scripture.

 

 

13 hours ago, Stewardofthemystery said:

 

Matthew 24:29

“Immediately after the tribulation of those days” shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

 

Mark 13:24

But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,

 

70 AD destruction of Jerusalem.

 

13 hours ago, Stewardofthemystery said:

Luke 21:24-25

King James Version

24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, UNTIL the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

70 AD destruction

 

13 hours ago, Stewardofthemystery said:

25 AND there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

What signs are you looking for? These are all fulfilled.

Continue reading the passage Lk 21:28, "When these things begin to happen, ....." that is the things leading up to the 70 AD destruction, "........ , for your redemption draweth nigh." Implying the day of Pentecost and the redemption of the soul.

 

 

 

 

[Dennis1209]

25 minutes ago, abcdef said:

I would like to discuss the parenthetical viewpoint further with you but not on this thread. If you are willing, then you or I should start another thread.

Please let me know.

If you are interested in my thoughts, not that they are correct, start a thread, and I will share my reasoning.

[Stewardofthemystery]

9 hours ago, abcdef said:

What signs are you looking for? These are all fulfilled.

 

I already posted them, the signs in the Sun, moon and stars confirms the END point of the “times of the Gentiles”as Jesus said.  The “signs” in the Sun, moon and stars happens Immediately AFTER the times of Gentiles is fulfilled. 

This time marker is also shown in the 6th seal signs…

Revelation 6:12-17

King James Version

12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and (((the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;

13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, )))even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.

15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;

16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?”

This has not happened yet.  If I am still around when this is fulfilled I’ll be sure to let you all know, just in case you miss it.😊

 

[Stewardofthemystery]

18 hours ago, abcdef said:

This is true, but the signs that you are looking for are centered on the times before and after the 70 AD destruction.

Wrong, they happen AFTER the “fulness of the Gentiles”, and right BEFORE the second coming of Christ.  I just made a thread on the topic, if you wish to understand the time line.

18 hours ago, abcdef said:

 

This is true, but the armies of Israel control the mount and their are no foreign armies that control any part of Jerusalem
This fulfills the requirement of Lk 21:24 to restore Jerusalem.

Islam has an agreement with Israel to manage the Temple Mount, the “fulness of the Gentiles”will be marked by many “signs” that have yet to be met.

18 hours ago, abcdef said:

If you are looking for a mass conversion of the people in Israel for the future, it won't happen.

Sure it will, as it is written The Deliverer shall come out of Sion and remove ungodliness from Jacob, ….all Israel shall be saved.

18 hours ago, abcdef said:

But as far as the nation is concerned, if they did have a majority become Christians, then the protection of God would be over them. As it stands now, there are not enough for that to happen, just like 70 AD.

You need to brush up on your end time prophecy events because it is written that God will once again defend Israel when the Nations comes against Jerusalem.

18 hours ago, abcdef said:

Again, it seems that you are confusing the "times of the gentiles" ruling over Jerusalem, with the fullness of the gentiles which is related to the conversion of the gentiles. They are related, but are separate entities.

The fulness of the Gentiles is not about the full number of conversions of the Gentiles, it is about “the fulness of the transgressors”

Daniel 8:23

And in the latter time of their kingdom, “when the transgressors are come to the full”

 

It is like when the grapes of wrath are “fully ripe.”

18 hours ago, abcdef said:

Continue reading the passage Lk 21:28, "When these things begin to happen, ....." that is the things leading up to the 70 AD destruction, "........ , for your redemption draweth nigh." Implying the day of Pentecost and the redemption of the soul.

 

That’s a good one!  Luke 21:28 is NOT about Pentecost or the leading up to the 70ad destruction, it is clearly about the second coming of Christ…Luke 21:27-28

²⁷ And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

²⁸ And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.”

So you are WAY off course with your timeline of events.