Core Essentials of Our One Faith (for fellowshipping with others)?

[Mr. M]

4 hours ago, Tristen said:

I hope I don't come across as disrespectful - I honestly don't understand what this definition of "fellowship" means.

Another way that fellowship is expressed is

to be a partaker.

Spiritual blessings that overflow into the natural.

Romans 15:27 It pleased them indeed, and they are their debtors. For if the Gentiles have been partakers of their spiritual things, their duty is also to minister to them in material things.

Galatians 6:6 Let him who is taught the word share in all good things with him who teaches.

Ephesians 3:6 That the Gentiles should be fellow heirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:

Philippians 1:7 Even as it is meet for me to think this of you all, because I have you in my heart; inasmuch as both in my bonds, and in the defense and confirmation of the gospel, ye all are partakers of my grace.

Colossians 1:12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:

1 Timothy 6:2 And they that have believing masters, let them not despise them, because they are brethren; but rather do them service, because they are faithful and beloved, partakers of the benefit. These things teach and exhort.

Hebrews 3:14 For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence steadfast unto the end;

2 Peter 1:4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

[Peelo]

Fellowship implies relationships. In the case of TRUE Christian fellowship it would require everyone  being on the same page but as we all know there a many Christian doctrines. There has been bloodshed, bigotry, exclusion and oppression. In America the savage Whites in the slave states used the Bible to justify slavery. The “fellow” among them permitted them to disregard their fellowship with their  White and Black brothers in the non slave states.

IMO fellowship is a loaded word. Believers claim to have a relationship with God. Fellowship religious organizations in practice often take on the characteristics of a  club or a cult. All hell often breaks loose in bible study groups. The enemy infiltrates. Don’t be fooled.

[Michael37]

3 minutes ago, Peelo said:

All hell often breaks loose in bible study groups. 

It does when there is rivalry and self-aggrandisement.

[Vine Abider]

13 hours ago, Peelo said:

Fellowship implies relationships. In the case of TRUE Christian fellowship it would require everyone  being on the same page but as we all know there a many Christian doctrines.

To clarify - I've been meeting with a group for 25 years that has people who believe a variety of different nonessential doctrines.  But we are all one in Christ and focus on Him, so oneness is a natural outflow (therefore, we are actually all on the same page . . .).

[Neighbor]

12 hours ago, Peelo said:

In the case of TRUE Christian fellowship it would require everyone  being on the same page but as we all know there a many Christian doctrines.

Hi, Fellowship amongst Christians does not require  all be on the same page. It does require that all be kind  to one another regardless of the page one is on.

The more important commonality of the saints in Christ Jesus  is that all be in the same book, and under the guidance of the Holy Spirit for it's reveal of Jesus to  each individual, so  that each  saint in Christ  Jesus  may be enabled to honor God in all that is taken in, shared of and done to Jesus' glory.

[steve morrow]

FELLOWSHIP ?? 

2 CORINTHIANS 6:14  be you not unequally yoked together with unbelievers for what  --fellowship--  hath righteousness with unrighteousness and what communion hath light with darkness

 

MATTHEW 5:20  for I say unto you that except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and pharisees --- you shall  --IN  NO  CASE--  enter into the kingdom of heaven ---

 

PSALM 15:1  LORD  who shall abide in thy tabernacle who shall dwell in thy holy hill 

--15:2--  he that walketh uprightly and worketh righteousness and speaketh truth in his heart 

 

 

DOCTRINE ??

2 JOHN 1:9   ---WHOSOEVER---  TRANSGRESSETH  and abideth not in the doctrine of  CHRIST  hath not  GOD  he that abideth in the doctrine of  CHRIST  he hath both  THE  FATHER  and  THE  SON

--1:10-- IF THERE COME ANY UNTO YOU  and bring not this doctrine --- receive him not into your house neither bid him  GOD. speed  

1 TIMOTHY 6:3  IF  ANY  MAN  teach otherwise and consent not to wholesome words even  --THE  WORDS  OF  OUR  LORD  JESUS. CHRIST  AND  TO. THE. DOCTRINE  WHICH  IS. ACCORDING TO  GODLINESS

--6:4--  HE  IS  PROUD  ---  knowing nothing  ---  but doting about questions and strifes whereof cometh envy strife railings evil surmising 

 

JOHN 6:63  it is the spirit that quickeneth the flesh profiteth nothing the words ---THAT  I  SPEAK--- unto you they are spirit and they are life 

 

HEBREWS 6:4  for it is impossible for those who were once enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and were made partakers of the holy spirit

--6:5-- and have tasted the good word of  GOD  and the powers of the world to come 

--6:6--  if they shall fall away to renew them again unto repentance seeing they crucify to themselves  THE  SON  OF  GOD  afresh ---AND  PUT  HIM  TO  AN  OPEN  SHAME---

 

 

LOVING  THE  LORD  JESUS  CHRIST 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[NConly]

14 hours ago, Peelo said:

In America the savage Whites in the slave states

search for black slave owners like William Ellison and his son were they savage too?

[Peelo]

5 hours ago, NConly said:

search for black slave owners like William Ellison and his son were they savage too?

Anyone who would justify or accept the institution of slavery is a savage. Anyone who would oppose slavery such as the abolitionist and preacher John Brown is a hero and very likely a member of the elect.
 

Mainstream religion doesn’t like to talk about the elect and predestination. I’m not saying all whites are savages. I’m white I’m not savage and most my friends are white and they are not savages because I don’t tolerate savages. Anyone who a justify slavery is a savage in my opinion.

Who justifies slavery today? One person is a guy named Tim Cook who is a CEO of Apple. Apple corporation uses slave labor in communist China to manufacture components for their iPhones and other products. 
 

White southerners used the Bible to justify slavery and there’s no denying that. 
 

You might want to listen to the words of the battle hymn of the Republic which is a very godly song. Here’s the first verse:

Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord

as he trampled out the vintage where the grapes of wrath were stored.

He hath loosed the faithful lightning of his terrible swift sword.

His truth is marching on.

if you wanna understand things from my perspective listen to the battle hymn of the Republic. It is a heart and soul of every patriotic American.

To understand where I’m coming from know this. my father was a war hero. His division liberated some of the extermination camps in Nazi Germany. My half brother lost his father in World War II. This makes me the child of a war hero and a war widow. I also had three ancestors who fought in the Civil War. All three of them were snipers and officers.
 

Slavery is a crime against humanity and there was a time in America when we thought slavery was a bad thing but now we enable it all over the world. There was a time when America stood up for basic values but now we have abandoned that to satisfy the insatiable greed of the insatiably greedy corporations.

My father killed Nazis and he didn’t lose one wink of sleep over it. What messed him up was seeing the heaps of bodies. What messed him up was seeing the emaciated Jews who did nothing wrong to deserve what happened to them.

if you think we need the Bible to tell us what is right or wrong, you need to think again. Humans have always known the difference between white and wrong most of the time. Parts of the Bible just seemed to clarify it a bit more but so do other writings.

slavery in America was a holocaust. The people in the south are a bunch of liars for the most part. They are rewriting history by claiming that the Civil War was caused by northern aggression in spite of the fact that those hypocrites who invoke the name Jesus all the time were the ones who fired the first shots. Not all of them are savages but a large percentage of people living in the Bible belt and the United States are savages. I lived in the Bible belt for 20 years and while there were a lot of good people there there were a lot of people who were evil and definitely predestined for hell  as they pretended to be Christians. in America today, there are a lot more fake Christians than there are Christians. I have found based on my friends that some of the most Christian people I know are Jews and atheists. Go figure.

 

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[Mr. M]

10 minutes ago, Peelo said:

Anyone who would justify or accept the institution of slavery is a savage. Anyone who would oppose slavery such as the abolitionist and preacher John Brown is a hero and very likely a member of the elect.
 

Mainstream religion doesn’t like to talk about the elect and predestination. I’m not saying all whites are savages. I’m white I’m not savage and most my friends are white and they are not savages because I don’t tolerate savages. Anyone who a justify slavery is a savage in my opinion.

Who justifies slavery today? One person is a guy named Tim Cook who is a CEO of Apple. Apple corporation uses slave labor in communist China to manufacture components for their iPhones and other products. 
 

White southerners used the Bible to justify slavery and there’s no denying that. 
 

You might want to listen to the words of the battle hymn of the Republic which is a very godly song. Here’s the first verse:

Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord

as he trampled out the vintage where the grapes of wrath were stored.

He hath loosed the faithful lightning of his terrible swift sword.

His truth is marching on.

if you wanna understand things from my perspective listen to the battle hymn of the Republic. It is a heart and soul of every patriotic American.

To understand where I’m coming from know this. my father was a war hero. His division liberated some of the extermination camps in Nazi Germany. My half brother lost his father in World War II. This makes me the child of a war hero and a war widow. I also had three ancestors who fought in the Civil War. All three of them were snipers and officers.
 

Slavery is a crime against humanity and there was a time in America when we thought slavery was a bad thing but now we enable it all over the world. There was a time when America stood up for basic values but now we have abandoned that to satisfy the insatiable greed of the insatiably greedy corporations.

My father killed Nazis and he didn’t lose one wink of sleep over it. What messed him up was seeing the heaps of bodies. What messed him up was seeing the emaciated Jews who did nothing wrong to deserve what happened to them.

if you think we need the Bible to tell us what is right or wrong, you need to think again. Humans have always known the difference between white and wrong most of the time. Parts of the Bible just seemed to clarify it a bit more but so do other writings.

slavery in America was a holocaust. The people in the south are a bunch of liars for the most part. They are rewriting history by claiming that the Civil War was caused by northern aggression in spite of the fact that those hypocrites who invoke the name Jesus all the time were the ones who fired the first shots. Not all of them are savages but a large percentage of people living in the Bible belt and the United States are savages. I lived in the Bible belt for 20 years and while there were a lot of good people there there were a lot of people who were evil and definitely predestined for hell  as they pretended to be Christians. in America today, there are a lot more fake Christians than there are Christians. I have found based on my friends that some of the most Christian people I know are Jews and atheists. Go figure.

 

Slavery persists in an institutionalized way at

the core of Western Society and civilization.

Proverbs 22:7 The rich rule over the poor,

and the borrower is slave to the lender.

Grad students will eventually earn a ph.D

and make top dollar. While they work towards

that goal they earn pennies on the dollar

at sophisticated employment. Brilliant!

[NConly]

24 minutes ago, Peelo said:

I lived in the Bible belt for 20 years and while there were a lot of good people there there were a lot of people who were evil and definitely predestined for hell

Th same can be said about the North. I spent quite a bit of time up there and have stories as bad as you describe.

Slavery was around before America was and before Christ lived on earth.

Who is speaking in these verses

Lev 25

42 For they are my servants, which I brought forth out of the land of Egypt: they shall not be sold as bondmen.

43 Thou shalt not rule over him with rigour; but shalt fear thy God.

44 Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids.

45 Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession.

46 And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour.