Core Essentials of Our One Faith (for fellowshipping with others)?

[farouk]

Maybe the thread is getting away from the theme of fellowship and into the theme of immigration?

[NConly]

7 minutes ago, farouk said:

@NConly I saw a talk given by an ex-CIA lady who had worked with migrants, and if migrants wanting to come to a Western country say they are refugees, then the host government from which they are trying to flee may claim that the officials of Western countries trying to help them are interfering with their internal affairs.

Hence the ex-CIA lady used to advise the would-be emigrants to describe themselves as 'displaced persons', and not 'refugees'.

We have laws on the books to get in legally anyone who bends or breaks the law to help others get in illegally should be in Jail.

[NConly]

4 minutes ago, Truswell said:

Maybe there could be another option?

What would that be?

[NConly]

7 minutes ago, farouk said:

Maybe the thread is getting away from the theme of fellowship and into the theme of immigration?

Yes it maybe. The most basic verse I see for this is Romans

12

8 If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.

[Sower]

3 hours ago, Truswell said:

How about the sixth commandment, though shall not kill (murder).

   I agree..

KJV Dictionary Definition: murder

murder

MUR'DER, n. L. mors.

1. The act of unlawfully killing a human being with premeditated malice, by a person of sound mind. To constitute murder in law, the person killing another must be of sound mind or in possession of his reason, and the act must be done with malice prepense, aforethought or premeditated; but malice may be implied, as well as express.

Romans 13:3
"For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval"

"For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer"

 

You said;

"Jesus told the disciples, two swords were sufficient for self-defence."                      

I don't have any swords.
But I do have other means to incapacitate the threat, though....

Thanks again..

 

 

 

 

[Truswell]

4 minutes ago, NConly said:

What would that be?

That is the question I was asking (grin)

In the UK everyone was fed up with King Richard II. So the parliamentarians locked him in the tower until he resigned the throne. Job done. 

[farouk]

4 minutes ago, NConly said:

Yes it maybe. The most basic verse I see for this is Romans

12

8 If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.

@NConly Wonderful verse there. Reminds me of the theme of peace in Philippians 4 also.

[farouk]

4 minutes ago, Truswell said:

That is the question I was asking (grin)

In the UK everyone was fed up with King Richard II. So the parliamentarians locked him in the tower until he resigned the throne. Job done. 

Something similar happened with Charles II. (Except that the Parliamentarian were a bit more drastic.)

[Truswell]

7 minutes ago, farouk said:

Something similar happened with Charles II. (Except that the Parliamentarian were a bit more drastic.)

I need to read up on Charles II. Memory problems, but at least it wasn't all out war. 

See here for Richard II. 

https://robinhood-loxley.weebly.com/the-death-of-richard-ii.html

 

[NConly]

15 minutes ago, Truswell said:

That is the question I was asking (grin)

In the UK everyone was fed up with King Richard II. So the parliamentarians locked him in the tower until he resigned the throne. Job done. 

build the wall