The End Of The Age And The Angel Reapers

[Mr. M]

I have been following the thread "What is Dispensationalism?"

Rather than pose this question there, I am opening a new thread here

to ask "where do these passages fit into that framework".

Revelation 14 adds more details to the Matthew 13 explanation of

the parable of tares and wheat by the Lord, but overall they seem

to align.

The Parable of the Tares Explained

Matthew 13:

36 Then Jesus sent the multitude away and went into the house.

And His disciples came to Him, saying,

“Explain to us the parable of the tares of the field.”

37 He answered and said to them: 

“He who sows the good seed is the Son of Man. 

38 The field is the world, the good seeds are the sons of the kingdom,

but the tares are the sons of the wicked one. 

39 The enemy who sowed them is the devil, the harvest is the end of the age,

and the reapers are the angels. 

40 Therefore as the tares are gathered and burned in the fire,

so it will be at the end of this age. 

41 The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will gather

out of His kingdom all things that offend,

and those who practice lawlessness, 

42 and will cast them into the furnace of fire. 

There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth. 

43 Then the righteous will shine forth as the sun

in the kingdom of their Father. 

He who has ears to hear, let him hear!

 

Reaping the Earth’s Harvest

Revelation 14:

14 Then I looked, and behold, a white cloud,

and on the cloud sat One like the Son of Man, having on His head

a golden crown, and in His hand a sharp sickle. 

15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to Him

who sat on the cloud, “Thrust in Your sickle and reap, for the time has come for You to reap,

for the harvest of the earth is ripe.” 

16 So He who sat on the cloud thrust in His sickle on the earth, and the earth was reaped.

Reaping the Grapes of Wrath

17 Then another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.

18 And another angel came out from the altar, who had power over fire, and he cried with a loud cry

to him who had the sharp sickle, saying, “Thrust in your sharp sickle and gather

the clusters of the vine of the earth, for her grapes are fully ripe.” 

19 So the angel thrust his sickle into the earth and gathered the vine of the earth,

and threw it into the great wine press of the wrath of God. 

20 And the wine press was trampled outside the city, and blood came out of the wine press, 

up to the horses’ bridles, for one thousand six hundred furlongs.

[Keras]

Both of your Bible quotes refer to the great Day of the Lords fiery wrath, the Sixth Seal world changer. 

This terrible event is graphically described in over 100 Prophesies. Which everyone alive will experience; Luke 21:35

[Stewardofthemystery]

1 hour ago, Mr. M said:

I have been following the thread "What is Dispensationalism?"

Rather than pose this question there, I am opening a new thread here

to ask "where do these passages fit into that framework".

Revelation 14 adds more details to the Matthew 13 explanation of

the parable of tares and wheat by the Lord, but overall they seem

to align.

The Parable of the Tares Explained

Matthew 13:

36 Then Jesus sent the multitude away and went into the house.

And His disciples came to Him, saying,

“Explain to us the parable of the tares of the field.”

37 He answered and said to them: 

“He who sows the good seed is the Son of Man. 

38 The field is the world, the good seeds are the sons of the kingdom,

but the tares are the sons of the wicked one. 

39 The enemy who sowed them is the devil, the harvest is the end of the age,

and the reapers are the angels. 

40 Therefore as the tares are gathered and burned in the fire,

so it will be at the end of this age. 

41 The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will gather

out of His kingdom all things that offend,

and those who practice lawlessness, 

42 and will cast them into the furnace of fire. 

There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth. 

43 Then the righteous will shine forth as the sun

in the kingdom of their Father. 

He who has ears to hear, let him hear!

 

Reaping the Earth’s Harvest

Revelation 14:

14 Then I looked, and behold, a white cloud,

and on the cloud sat One like the Son of Man, having on His head

a golden crown, and in His hand a sharp sickle. 

15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to Him

who sat on the cloud, “Thrust in Your sickle and reap, for the time has come for You to reap,

for the harvest of the earth is ripe.” 

16 So He who sat on the cloud thrust in His sickle on the earth, and the earth was reaped.

Reaping the Grapes of Wrath

17 Then another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.

18 And another angel came out from the altar, who had power over fire, and he cried with a loud cry

to him who had the sharp sickle, saying, “Thrust in your sharp sickle and gather

the clusters of the vine of the earth, for her grapes are fully ripe.” 

19 So the angel thrust his sickle into the earth and gathered the vine of the earth,

and threw it into the great wine press of the wrath of God. 

20 And the wine press was trampled outside the city, and blood came out of the wine press, 

up to the horses’ bridles, for one thousand six hundred furlongs.

The timing of the harvest has to with the Lords coming with all His angels.  The separating of the good seed from the tares is also symbolized in the separating of the sheep from the goats.

Compare…

Matthew 25:31-46

King James Version

31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:

32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:

36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?

38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?

39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:

43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.

44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?

45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.

46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.”

[Mr. M]

3 hours ago, Keras said:

Which everyone alive will experience; Luke 21:35

Did some research in response to your post.

The verse does not say 'everyone alive will experience'.

 

 

[Keras]

45 minutes ago, Mr. M said:

The verse does not say 'everyone alive will experience'.

Isn't - all those who dwell upon the face of the earth...... the same as everyone alive? 

Thinking it doesn't because of a rapture removal just before that terrible Day, is serious error and pure speculation.  Many scriptures say we must endure trials; 1 Peter 4:12, +

[Mr. M]

7 minutes ago, Keras said:

Isn't - all those who dwell upon the face of the earth...... the same as everyone alive? 

Thinking it doesn't because of a rapture removal just before that terrible Day, is serious error and pure speculation.  Many scriptures say we must endure trials; 1 Peter 4:12, +

Assuming that is what I meant is a serious error. 

I elaborated on the study I did in another thread.

Link provided. Repeating, 

it does not say "dwell" either. 

[WilliamL]

On 6/27/2024 at 1:10 PM, Mr. M said:

I have been following the thread "What is Dispensationalism?"

Rather than pose this question there, I am opening a new thread here

to ask "where do these passages fit into that framework".

Revelation 14 adds more details to the Matthew 13 explanation of

the parable of tares and wheat by the Lord, but overall they seem

to align.

The Parable of the Tares Explained

Matthew 13:

36 Then Jesus sent the multitude away and went into the house.

And His disciples came to Him, saying,

“Explain to us the parable of the tares of the field.”

37 He answered and said to them: 

“He who sows the good seed is the Son of Man. 

38 The field is the world, the good seeds are the sons of the kingdom,

but the tares are the sons of the wicked one. 

39 The enemy who sowed them is the devil, the harvest is the end of the age,

and the reapers are the angels. 

40 Therefore as the tares are gathered and burned in the fire,

so it will be at the end of this age. 

41 The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will gather

out of His kingdom all things that offend,

and those who practice lawlessness, 

42 and will cast them into the furnace of fire. 

There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth. 

43 Then the righteous will shine forth as the sun

in the kingdom of their Father. 

He who has ears to hear, let him hear!

 

Reaping the Earth’s Harvest

Revelation 14:

14 Then I looked, and behold, a white cloud,

and on the cloud sat One like the Son of Man, having on His head

a golden crown, and in His hand a sharp sickle. 

15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to Him

who sat on the cloud, “Thrust in Your sickle and reap, for the time has come for You to reap,

for the harvest of the earth is ripe.” 

16 So He who sat on the cloud thrust in His sickle on the earth, and the earth was reaped.

Reaping the Grapes of Wrath

17 Then another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.

18 And another angel came out from the altar, who had power over fire, and he cried with a loud cry

to him who had the sharp sickle, saying, “Thrust in your sharp sickle and gather

the clusters of the vine of the earth, for her grapes are fully ripe.” 

19 So the angel thrust his sickle into the earth and gathered the vine of the earth,

and threw it into the great wine press of the wrath of God. 

20 And the wine press was trampled outside the city, and blood came out of the wine press, 

up to the horses’ bridles, for one thousand six hundred furlongs.

This is a very difficult subject to understand unless you know well the Mosaic Law, wherein the laws related to the harvest are laid out. The following is a sketch of how those laws prophetically relate to the End Times:

... Under the typology of the Mosaic Law, only the best of the harvest, the firstfruits, were/are to be taken up to God’s Tabernacle. In the End Times, the Tabernacle of God is “the true Tabernacle which the Lord erected…in heaven.” Heb. 8:1-2; Rev. 11:19; 15:5

... Firstfruits are but a small portion of any harvest. The greater parts of both Israel and the Gentile Church will remain on Earth, because they will not have been “ready” at Christ’s return. Matt. 24:44; 25:10 ...

During the 1260 days/42 months/3½ times (Rev. 11:3; 12:6, 14; 13:5; Dan. 7:25; 12:7), the first six Trumpets will carry out God’s earthly judgment upon soul/nephesh/psuchē-level men. The 144,000 will be on earth at that time, along with the Two Witnesses of Revelation 11, having been sanctified for the Lord’s earthly ministry. After this 1260-day period of judgment is fulfilled, the full harvest of Earth will commence, as foretold in Revelation 14:

Revelation 14:15 “…for the hour has come to reap, for the harvest of the earth is ripe.”

Matthew 13:30 “…and at the time of the harvest I will say…gather the wheat into my storehouse.”

God’s harvest refers only to his own peoples, even though “tares” – phony believers – will also be reaped among them, which the angels will separate out from the believers. Matt. 13:37-43 At this time, being that of the 7th Trumpet, the Kingdom of Heaven will become established upon Earth, as foretold in Revelation 11:

Revelation 11:15 Then the seventh angel sounded: And there were loud voices in heaven, saying, “The kingdom of this world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of His Christ, and He shall reign forever and ever!”

Again, this is the full harvest, as contrasted with the harvest of the firstfruits, which comes near the beginning of the 1260 days.

Excerpts from: https://www.worthychristianforums.com/blogs/entry/2686-the-firstfruits-and-the-harvest-20-part-1/

and: https://www.worthychristianforums.com/blogs/entry/2687-the-firstfruits-and-the-harvest-20-part-2/