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This warning of the coming wrath upon the Jews was prophesied by both John the Baptist and Jesus.

But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
 
But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people. (The Jews)
 
Paul confirmed this first tribulation period was to the Jews….
 
Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;
 
After the times (fullness) of the Gentiles comes in, God shall make a new covenant with the house of Israel… Romans 11:27
 
“For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.”
As for me, this is my covenant with them, saith the Lord; My spirit that is upon thee, and my words which I have put in thy mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouthof thy seed, nor out of the mouth of thy seed's seed, saith the Lord, from henceforth and for ever.”
 
And God’s favor shall return to Israel, and God shall fight for them when God’s cup of wrath is taken from them, and it is handed over to the Nations.
 
In a little wrath I hid my face from thee for amoment; but with everlasting kindness will I have mercy on thee, saith the Lord thy Redeemer.”
 
 

Isaiah 51:22-23

King James Version

22 Thus saith thy Lord the Lord, and thy God that pleadeth the cause of his people, Behold, I have taken out of thine hand the cup of trembling, even the dregs of the cup of my fury; thou shalt no more drink it again:

23 But I will put it into the hand of them that afflict thee; which have said to thy soul, Bow down, that we may go over: and thou hast laid thy body as the ground, and as the street, to them that went over.”

And God shall defend His people…

No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord, and their righteousness is of me, saith the Lord.
 
 
 

 


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Yes Israel will have to accept the new covenant and Jesus as their Messiah 


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3 hours ago, NConly said:

Yes Israel will have to accept the new covenant and Jesus as their Messiah 

I certainly agree with you. In studying Daniel, I believe there is a solid interpretation that tells us there will be exactly 3.5 years where the Jews will go out into the world and preach the Word of God AND the Testimony of Jesus just as Paul had done after the cross. 
 

At the end of the time of the Gentiles God will remove the blindness from the eyes just as He did for Paul - He will repeat the Damascus experience with His people. 
 

This will then restart the counting of the final 4th Great Jubilee which MUST be completed BY THE JEWS before the Messiah can return. 
 

At the time of the Cross, there was exactly 3.5 years remaining to complete the final GJ… also, there was 3.5 years remaining for the last week in Daniel’s 70 weeks of years prophecy. 
 

Jesus fulfilled all 6 of His God given requirements found in 9:24, meaning there is nothing He had to do during or finish during the last week. However, the Jews still had to fulfill the final Jubilee cycle. 
 

This will also stop God’s period of “desolation” caused by their rejection and crucifixion of their Messiah. 
 

Hope this makes sense … Charlie 


 


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1 hour ago, Charlie744 said:

I certainly agree with you. In studying Daniel, I believe there is a solid interpretation that tells us there will be exactly 3.5 years where the Jews will go out into the world and preach the Word of God AND the Testimony of Jesus just as Paul had done after the cross. 
 

At the end of the time of the Gentiles God will remove the blindness from the eyes just as He did for Paul - He will repeat the Damascus experience with His people. 
 

This will then restart the counting of the final 4th Great Jubilee which MUST be completed BY THE JEWS before the Messiah can return. 
 

At the time of the Cross, there was exactly 3.5 years remaining to complete the final GJ… also, there was 3.5 years remaining for the last week in Daniel’s 70 weeks of years prophecy. 
 

Jesus fulfilled all 6 of His God given requirements found in 9:24, meaning there is nothing He had to do during or finish during the last week. However, the Jews still had to fulfill the final Jubilee cycle. 
 

This will also stop God’s period of “desolation” caused by their rejection and crucifixion of their Messiah. 
 

Hope this makes sense … Charlie 


 

I agree but there more than rejection and crucifixion imo

Ezk 36

16 Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,

17 Son of man, when the house of Israel dwelt in their own land, they defiled it by their own way and by their doings: their way was before me as the uncleanness of a removed woman.

18 Wherefore I poured my fury upon them for the blood that they had shed upon the land, and for their idols wherewith they had polluted it:

19 And I scattered them among the heathen, and they were dispersed through the countries: according to their way and according to their doings I judged them.

20 And when they entered unto the heathen, whither they went, they profaned my holy name, when they said to them, These are the people of the LORD, and are gone forth out of his land.

21 But I had pity for mine holy name, which the house of Israel had profaned among the heathen, whither they went.

22 Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.

23 And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, saith the Lord GOD, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes.

24 For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.

 


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When does the Deliverer come out of/ to Sion/Zion?

Romans 11:25-27

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25 “For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, UNTIL “the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.”

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, (((There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, )))and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

27 For this is “my covenant”unto them, when I shall take away their sins.”

Compare….

Isaiah 59:19-21

King James Version

19 So shall they fear the name of the Lord from the west, and his glory from the rising of the sun. When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the Lord shall lift up a standard against him.

20 And (((the Redeemer shall come to Zion,))) and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob, saith the Lord.

21 As for me, this is “my covenant”with them, saith the Lord; My spirit that is upon thee, and my words which I have put in thy mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed, nor out of the mouth of thy seed's seed, saith the Lord, from henceforth and for ever.”

Confirm the timing….

Joel 3:12-16

King James Version

12 Let the heathen be wakened, and come up to the valley of Jehoshaphat: for there will I sit to judge all the heathen round about.

13 Put ye in the sickle, for the harvest is ripe: come, get you down; for the press is full, the fats overflow; for their wickedness is great.

14 Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the Lord is near in the valley of decision.

15 The sun and the moon shall be darkened, and the stars shall withdraw their shining.(6th seal signs)

16 (((The Lord also shall roar out of Zion,)))and utter his voice from Jerusalem; and the heavens and the earth shall shake: but the Lord will be the hope of his people, and the strength of the children of Israel.”

So (((the Deliverer coming out of/to Sion)))to remove ungodliness from Jacob happens right AFTER the times of the Gentiles is fulfilled, and this time is confirmed by the 6th seal signs in heaven…

Again compare the timing….

Luke 21:24-25

King James Version

24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, UNTIL the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

25 And there shall be (((signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; )))(6th seal signs) and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;”

 

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God will restore end Times Israel by sealing 144000 Hebrew and send back the 2 OT prophets to lead them in the great tribulation.

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