Why many Christian Denominations doubt the divinity of Jesus

[RealReligionofPeace]

They're not Christian. They are Arian.

[farouk]

On 7/20/2024 at 11:25 PM, Your closest friendnt said:

Jesus said to the disciples on the road to Emmaus on the day of his resurrection that in the volume of the book and the Psalms is written about me. And he proceeded to tell them and explain everything. 

 

What a conversational Bible study this would have been! :)

[Your closest friendnt]

24 minutes ago, farouk said:

What a conversational Bible study this would have been! :)

But we still have the scriptures and we can still try to connect and hopefully the Holy Spirit can help us. 

By reading the story of Abraham and Isaac the Lord left a lot of clues for us and after the fact it is easier to understand. 

First is that God will choose the Lamb and its not going to be young as Issac was who was trickled to carry the wood up the mountain without knowing what will happen. 

God provided to Abraham a ram a make sheep up to three years old. Alone as it was. As this the choice of God alone.

God said to Abraham not this Lamb looking to Issac. Indicating that the Lamb of God it is a man also from Abraham.  

A ram is to an adult in contrast to Issac and who willingly will carry up to the mountain the wood knowingly that he is the Lamb to be slain. 

And that not Abraham but his descendants will slain the Lanb of God who is also the offspring of God and brought forth by the miracle of God in due time like a late birth just like Issac that could only come forth with the intervention of God. He had to be a special child and only one of its kind. Like

Issac who was figuratively the Son of God. Bringing to life both Abraham and Sarah to make that happen. 

The leader Abraham was supposed to put Abraham to death. This time the elders of the people, those in authority will put him to death. On top of a hill. 

Later the animal sacrifices would not do for many reasons because they are not the offspring of Abraham. The Lamb of God had to be a Man like Issac a make an adult a Ram. 

The conjecture from the sacrifices in the Law could be made that he would be offered for the forgiveness of sins and to provide the blood of the Covenant. To Abraham it was more to provide the blood of a Covenant. Because that what he had at that time. And there are others. 

[farouk]

2 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

But we still have the scriptures and we can still try to connect and hopefully the Holy Spirit can help us. 

By reading the story of Abraham and Isaac the Lord left a lot of clues for us and after the fact it is easier to understand. 

First is that God will choose the Lamb and its not going to be young as Issac was who was trickled to carry the wood up the mountain without knowing what will happen. 

God provided to Abraham a ram a make sheep up to three years old. Alone as it was. As this the choice of God alone.

God said to Abraham not this Lamb looking to Issac. Indicating that the Lamb of God it is a man also from Abraham.  

A ram is to an adult in contrast to Issac and who willingly will carry up to the mountain the wood knowingly that he is the Lamb to be slain. 

And that not Abraham but his descendants will slain the Lanb of God who is also the offspring of God and brought forth by the miracle of God in due time like a late birth just like Issac that could only come forth with the intervention of God. He had to be a special child and only one of its kind. Like

Issac who was figuratively the Son of God. Bringing to life both Abraham and Sarah to make that happen. 

The leader Abraham was supposed to put Abraham to death. This time the elders of the people, those in authority will put him to death. On top of a hill. 

Later the animal sacrifices would not do for many reasons because they are not the offspring of Abraham. The Lamb of God had to be a Man like Issac a make an adult a Ram. 

The conjecture from the sacrifices in the Law could be made that he would be offered for the forgiveness of sins and to provide the blood of the Covenant. To Abraham it was more to provide the blood of a Covenant. Because that what he had at that time. And there are others. 

It all points forward indeed in the OT to the Person and Work of Christ. Wonderful studies indeed........

[Your closest friendnt]

1 minute ago, farouk said:

It all points forward indeed in the OT to the Person and Work of Christ. Wonderful studies indeed........

Jesus read the book of Exodus and when he read Exodus 12 about the Passover lamb he knew that he will be slain on the Passover day.

The scripture says that on the 10th of the first month the month of Nissan you must set aside a Lamb (it denotes male)  and you must kill it on the 14th and eat it.

This why Jesus was saying that you must eat my flesh and drink my blood because he knew that he was the Passover lamb. 

Jesus was set apart at the baptism of John in the Jordan River at about 30 years old ( the age the preists began their service in the Temple)  and in three years he knew  that he will die. This is sad, he not only knew that he will die but he knew when. 

When he went to be baptized he knew that he will have only three years to live.

The lamb was set apart on the 10th of Nissan and it was killed on the 14th of Nissan after three days. Jesus knew that in three years he will die. This is why he said to his disciples stay with me awake in the Garden of Gethsemane he knew that it was the last hour to spent with them before the Cross and he cried. But they did not know that must have bothered them a lot at that time.  

[farouk]

1 minute ago, Your closest friendnt said:

Jesus read the book of Exodus and when he read Exodus 12 about the Passover lamb he knew that he will be slain on the Passover day.

The scripture says that on the 10th of the first month the month of Nissan you must set aside a Lamb (it denotes male)  and you must kill it on the 14th and eat it.

This why Jesus was saying that you must eat my flesh and drink my blood because he knew that he was the Passover lamb. 

Jesus was set apart at the baptism of John in the Jordan River at about 30 years old ( the age the preists began their service in the Temple)  and in three years he knew  that he will die. This is sad, he not only knew that he will die but he knew when. 

When he went to be baptized he knew that he will have only three years to live.

The lamb was set apart on the 10th of Nissan and it was killed on the 14th of Nissan after three days. Jesus knew that in three years he will die. This is why he said to his disciples stay with me awake in the Garden of Gethsemane he knew that it was the last hour to spent with them before the Cross and he cried. But they did not know that must have bothered them a lot at that time.  

@Your closest friendnt The Luke account of the institution of the Lord's Supper gives the strongest among all the accounts of the indication how the Passover was changed into something different indeed: a remembrance of the finished work of Christ in the Lord's Supper.

[Your closest friendnt]

On 7/21/2024 at 2:53 AM, Michael37 said:

More importantly Christ was in Abraham:

Abraham, also known as Avraham in Hebrew, holds a significant place in both the Old Testament and religious traditions. Let’s explore why his life is so important:

1. The Abrahamic Covenant:

   • The central promise made by God to Abraham is known as the Abrahamic Covenant. It represents a foundational divine pledge.
   • God called Abraham to leave his homeland (Ur of the Chaldeans) and journey to an unknown land. In return, God promised to make him into a great nation and bless all nations through him.
   • Abraham’s obedience and trust in God are evident when he departs with his wife, Sarai (later named Sarah), and his nephew, Lot.
   • God renews the covenant with Abraham, promising descendants as numerous as the stars and reaffirming it through a formal ceremony.
   • Abraham’s humility is seen when he allows Lot to choose the land first¹.

2. Father of Many Nations:

   • Abraham’s faith and obedience set the stage for the redemptive plan of God.
   • He is considered the father of many nations, making him foundational in Judaism, Islam, and Christianity.
   • His journey from Ur to Canaan, the birth of his son Isaac, and the test of faith at Mount Moriah shape the foundation of true faith².

3. Righteousness by Faith:

   • Abraham’s story contains the first mention in the Bible of God’s righteousness assigned to man as the sole means of salvation (Genesis 15:6).
   • His unwavering trust in God exemplifies the concept of righteousness by faith.

In summary, apart from Jesus, no person might be more important to the understanding of the gospel than Abraham. His life teaches us about faith, obedience, and God’s covenant promises³. If you have any more questions or want to explore further, feel free to ask! 😊[Copilot]

@Michael37 there is no scripture to show that the commentary is from scripture in Genesis in the chapters about Abraham.

Some comments are truth but that doesn't make the commentary truth in it's entirety. No scripture reference from Genesis as foundations. 

And definitely Abraham was not in the Heavenly Father. 

[Michael37]

2 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

And definitely Abraham was not in the Heavenly Father. 

A strange belief. Where did you get it from?

[Michael37]

5 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

No scripture reference from Genesis as foundations. 

How about this one:

Gen 12:1-3  Now the LORD had said to Abram: "Get out of your country, From your family And from your father's house, To a land that I will show you.  (2)  I will make you a great nation; I will bless you And make your name great; And you shall be a blessing.  (3)  I will bless those who bless you, And I will curse him who curses you; And in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed."

[Your closest friendnt]

31 minutes ago, Michael37 said:

A strange belief. Where did you get it from?

Jesus said so.