The false Christians with the Jesus tattoos and cross necklaces

[farouk]

On 7/22/2024 at 10:16 AM, Jayne said:

Lukewarmness is a matter of the heart, not the skin.  I could give testimony of Christians with no tattoos who are pitiful.

 

@Jayne My wife and I talked to a young lady with the wording of John 3.16 tattooed on her wrist; she seemed to radiate a quiet confidence and joy.

(It just wouldn't make sense to say that the moment the tattoo machine made her a tattooed lady she thus supposedly became lukewarm.)

cc @Grace j @Coruscating

Edited July 24, 2024 by farouk

[farouk]

1 hour ago, Your closest friendnt said:

The Gospel includes not to be ashamed to declare my name and confess my name to others.  

And this is what these people do. They tell others about Jesus Christ who accepts the faith of every one and without any prejudice.

 

@Your closest friendnt

In fact they would often indeed likely regard it as an honor.

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..in the rural Bible Belt. Just about every person in three of the four sides of my family (bio parents, step parents) have multiple tattoos. Most of them are biblical ...pretty much expected in the family. source: reddit

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I would be hard-pressed to come up with more than a handful of names of my friends who DON'T have at least one tattoo--and we are all suburban homeschooling moms, ages ranging from early-30s to mid-50s, living in conservative North Texas. greenvneck forums dot thewelltrainedmind dot com

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The likely learned attitude of today's Christian 18 year old would probably be that going into a tattoo parlor for a faith-professing ink up is an honor.

[farouk]

Hi @Henry_iain Recently you said: "It might even have some advantages for witnessing. If a tattoo on someone's arm leads to a fruitful conversation about the Gospel I say go for it. "

So it begs the question, Why would it identify someone as lukewarm? as the OP seems to claim.

[farouk]

2 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said:

Who knows someday you may be walking around with a book in your hand that it has the mark of the Cross on it.

 

@Your closest friendnt Sometimes Bibles have crosses on them, yes.

Sometimes ppl wait a very long while before going into a tattoo parlor. And then finally they do.

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Heather A. said:

"I waited 5 years before getting it. .. Reno also has a lot of tattoo places. Carson City has a few. Most people travel to Reno or Las Vegas for it. .. I have 1 tattoo and I got it in Reno. .. I do have a cross tattoo. "

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[farouk]

Hi @Tristen A while ago you said:

"I have noticed that people with tattoos often have other random people approach them to ask about their tats. In the context of a faith-based tattoo, that can lead to a non-Christian opening the door to a discussion about the Gospel. I can therefore see some merit in that motive."

So it really begs the question, Why would it identify someone as lukewarm? as the OP seems to claim.

[RealReligionofPeace]

6 hours ago, Jayne said:

No, I have never noticed that.  Lukewarmness is a matter of the heart, not the skin.  I could give testimony of Christians with no tattoos who are pitiful.

Methinks you are a bit biased as you opposed tattoos.  That's your right to believe that.  But you have carried it too far.

Think about how many people wear cross necklaces and have tattoos of Jesus, then look at their works. There are porn actress who wear cross necklaces - even atheists who wear them(Lance Armstrong). What am saying is not that these people should not get tattoos or wear necklaces - I am just saying that by wearing these Christian symbols in vain they are heaping judgement upon themselves. Most of these people are not true saved Christians - just look at America right now, porn imagery is as common as air molecules, women are more promiscuous than ever, homosexuality is worshiped, etc. You ever heard of sturgeon's law - 90% crud?

[Your closest friendnt]

6 minutes ago, farouk said:

Hi @Tristen A while ago you said:

"I have noticed that people with tattoos often have other random people approach them to ask about their tats. In the context of a faith-based tattoo, that can lead to a non-Christian opening the door to a discussion about the Gospel. I can therefore see some merit in that motive."

So it really begs the question, Why would it identify someone as lukewarm? as the OP seems to claim.

It does not matter if they are this or that. They are all believers in Jesus Christ and in the righteousness of Jesus Christ and the Heavenly Father accepts them in the name of Jesus. 

Anyway the comments Jesus Christ made it was relevant to having fellowship with him. 

Which is telling us that all believers are saved in his name but not all believers are having a close fellowship with him. 

For that reason we are not to Judge any believer regarding the closeness of his fellowship with Jesus. 

They are all children of the Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ accepts their faith in him regardless of the closeness of theit fellowship with him. 

This we must understand on our own. A friend is a friend regardless of the closeness of the friendship. 

[RealReligionofPeace]

2 hours ago, farouk said:

Hi @Henry_iain Recently you said: "It might even have some advantages for witnessing. If a tattoo on someone's arm leads to a fruitful conversation about the Gospel I say go for it. "

So it begs the question, Why would it identify someone as lukewarm? as the OP seems to claim.

This topic is not about people who get tattoos(obviously some true Christians have gotten tats) this is about the usual lukewarmness of faith commonly found in people who wear such symbols

[RealReligionofPeace]

On 7/21/2024 at 4:02 PM, TheBlade said:

Thanks this does fall under "For the Lord sees not as man sees; for man looks on the outward appearance, but the Lord looks on the heart." You did just that. 

Now 2nd Cor starts off with "for such" meaning something came before it. When Jesus walked this earth many would come up to Him all the time saying "lord lord" "Rabbi Rabbi" "master master" so we understand Matt 7 a bit more. Anyway none of these verses you posted deal with the topic you started.

You don't like tattoos and cross necklaces then don't ware them.  You know maybe 40+ years ago the lord told many about how some will look and dress and many times it was in great detail about what we would see. Yet said they are of me. I know one .. the way he dresses looks yet has lead more people to Christ then I ever will. The love he has for Christ.. just shines and I don't care for him yet he is of God. I watched a Christian man yelling at people going into some movie and I asked the lord right there "is he of you?" The lord said "if he is not against me he is for me"

Not going to get in to what God told Israel not to do thousands of years ago. It is not what people do today. Kind a funny well this to some is wrong yet so many other things we do with this flesh is ok haha. Thanks I disagree and not here to debate. 

You will know them by their fruits

[farouk]

Just now, RealReligionofPeace said:

You will know them by their fruits

This is a good post, yes.

It's what the Lord Jesus said.

Paul also in Galatians 5 speaks of the fruit of the Spirit.