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Do you understand the reason for the tribulation?

Do you know how long it will last?

Do you know who will take the gospel into all the world?

Do you understand the reason for the 7 trumpets?

Do you know that Satan will appear on the earth?

Do you know why God allows him to appear on earth?

Do you understand why Satan implements his mark. 

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1 hour ago, Progressive Truth said:

Do you understand the reason for the tribulation?

Do you know how long it will last?

Do you know who will take the gospel into all the world?

Do you understand the reason for the 7 trumpets?

Do you know that Satan will appear on the earth?

Do you know why God allows him to appear on earth?

Do you understand why Satan implements his mark. 

The answers to all these questions are revealed in an 18 minute vide0.Just go to YouTube and enter, Are You Ready For Coming Events? 

Do you understand the reason for the tribulation?  Yes, according to the scriptures, it's for revealing the wrath of God, the purification of Israel, the revealing of who the devil truly is, and last opportunity for people to be saved.

Do you know how long it will last?  Yes, the Great Tribulation will last 7 years broken into two 3.5 year periods.

Do you know who will take the gospel into all the world?  Yes, the two witnesses, an angel flying around the world, and the 144,000 Jewish males who are saved and spread the gospel.  [12,000 from each tribe.  How do they KNOW what tribe they are from?  They don't have to know.  God knows.]

Do you understand the reason for the 7 trumpets?  Yes, and the seals and the bowls, etc.  The seven trumpets are announcing devastating judgment on the physical earth:  the earth itself, the water both sea and fresh, humans, stars, etc. The last three are REALLY bad.

Do you know that Satan will appear on the earth?  Yes.

Do you know why God allows him to appear on earth?  Yes, he is - for a time - cast into the bottomless pit.

Do you understand why Satan implements his mark.  Yes, to show who belongs to him.  Not only will those who do not take the mark not be able to buy/sell.  They will be killed.


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Do you understand why it is called "the mark of the beast" and not the "mark of satan"?


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17 hours ago, Progressive Truth said:

Do you understand the reason for the tribulation?

I could answer but 'tribulation' would need to be defined.

17 hours ago, Progressive Truth said:

Do you know how long it will last?

If it's 'great tribulation' as in Matt 24, no. No one knows.

17 hours ago, Progressive Truth said:

Do you know who will take the gospel into all the world?

I assume you mean at the end of the age. I believe it's  stated the 1st angel in Rev 14.

17 hours ago, Progressive Truth said:

Do you understand the reason for the 7 trumpets?

It seems to me the exact reason would be found in the mind of God. But knowing what I know from scripture, it's pressure on the body to change the mind so people seek Him; before the finality of His wrath.

17 hours ago, Progressive Truth said:

Do you know that Satan will appear on the earth?

It certainly seems so. In Rev 13 people worship the dragon that gave the beast power and authority. IMO, that means the dragon will be seen. 

17 hours ago, Progressive Truth said:

Do you know why God allows him to appear on earth?

Rev 12 says he is defeated and kicked out, and now he's really, really angry.

17 hours ago, Progressive Truth said:

Do you understand why Satan implements his mark. 

Scripture specifies it's a mark of ownership.

17 hours ago, Progressive Truth said:

The answers to all these questions are revealed in an 18 minute vide0.Just go to YouTube and enter, Are You Ready For Coming Events? 

I'm sure you're sincere but I doubt the answers, the real answers, can be found in a YouTube vid. 


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4 hours ago, Diaste said:

 

I'm sure you're sincere but I doubt the answers, the real answers, can be found in a YouTube vid. 

If your soul purpose on this forum is just to promote your point of view, then your statement makes perfect sense. 

However, if it is too consider other perspectives as well, with the possibility of a better understanding of prophecy I would encourage you to take the 18 min., (which is likely less time than it took you too post this response) too view the video. 


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20 hours ago, Jayne said:

Do you understand the reason for the tribulation?  Yes, according to the scriptures, it's for revealing the wrath of God, the purification of Israel, the revealing of who the devil truly is, and last opportunity for people to be saved.

Do you know how long it will last?  Yes, the Great Tribulation will last 7 years broken into two 3.5 year periods.

Do you know who will take the gospel into all the world?  Yes, the two witnesses, an angel flying around the world, and the 144,000 Jewish males who are saved and spread the gospel.  [12,000 from each tribe.  How do they KNOW what tribe they are from?  They don't have to know.  God knows.]

Do you understand the reason for the 7 trumpets?  Yes, and the seals and the bowls, etc.  The seven trumpets are announcing devastating judgment on the physical earth:  the earth itself, the water both sea and fresh, humans, stars, etc. The last three are REALLY bad.

Do you know that Satan will appear on the earth?  Yes.

Do you know why God allows him to appear on earth?  Yes, he is - for a time - cast into the bottomless pit.

Do you understand why Satan implements his mark.  Yes, to show who belongs to him.  Not only will those who do not take the mark not be able to buy/sell.  They will be killed.

Perhaps you like Diaste haven't taken the time to view the video. I encourage you too do so, as I know the answers to my questions will be given in a deeper perspective than what you think. 


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17 hours ago, Michael37 said:

Do you understand why it is called "the mark of the beast" and not the "mark of satan"?

Rev. 13, speaks of two beast. One from the sea and the other from the earth. Rev. 12:7-9 inform us the dragon/serpent/devil/Satan was earlier cast into/to/down to the earth.[spirit realm] Verse 17 informs us this dragon would latter wage war against the remnant of the woman [church]. This prophecy beginning in Rev 12:6 continues in chronological order through 14:5. In chapter 13, we lean that the dragon/Satan gives his power to the first beast,[while still in the spirit real] which wars against God's people for 42 months and to conquer them. Rev., 13:11 informs us that latter a second beast comes up out of the earth, looking like the lamb [Christ] but spoke like a dragon [because it is Satan coming out of the spirit realm to dwell upon the earth. The 5th trumpet reveals Satan being released by God from the abyss/spirit realm]. Verse 14-15, informs us that this beast[Satan] was given power [by God] to perform signs even calling fire down from heaven. He [Satan] orders an image be made to the first beast, and those not worshiping this image to be killed. To show homage to this second beast/Satan, one must receive his mark or the number of his name. Of course the saints having a strong faith will refuse to take his mark to buy the means to survive, thus millions of saints will be killed, this is how satan conquers the saints. 

The "mark" is called the mark of the beast,  because within this prophecy it is the second beast from the earth that sets it up, but within this prophecy we were informed that the dragon gave the first beast it's power and the second beast spoke like the dragon. So with that bid of info along with the 5th trumpet one can conclude the second beast is Satan. 


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1 hour ago, Progressive Truth said:

Perhaps you like Diaste haven't taken the time to view the video. I encourage you too do so, as I know the answers to my questions will be given in a deeper perspective than what you think. 

I see that you did a lot of work on the video.

I just cannot agree with you that the "beast" is literally Satan.  I've read Revelation, taught it twice in its entirety, and listened to it being preached from this year by my own pastor.  He taught it over several months in its entirety.

Satan is described in chapter 12 as battling those who cling to Christ. “Then the dragon was enraged at the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring — those who keep God’s commands and hold fast their testimony about Jesus”

Now, in chapter 13, Satan [referred to as the dragon, not beast] calls out TWO beasts - one from the sea and one from the land.

[I.]  THE FIRST BEAST = Chapter 13:1-4- A beast is called out from the sea.  John says he witnesses this.  The oldest of manuscripts include that John saw Satan standing on the shore.   He has the appearance of wild animals. The beast has lots of heads and horns and crowns and Satan, the dragon, gives this beast LOTS of power, authority, has him recover from a fatal wound - or in actuallity as wound "AS IF" fatal.  The whole world is fascinated with this beast and follows him - a mortal man used by Satan and empowered by Satan.  Ergo, this first beast cannot be Satan.   With him having many horns and "horns" in the Bible representing political power, the evil man puppeted by Satan will be a political ruler.  He is LIKE the dragon of chapter 12, yet not the dragon, as he is instead controlled by the dragon.  The dragon and the beast are not the same entity.

Humanity, the Bible says in verse 4 worshipped BOTH the dragon who gave the power and the beast who received the power.

[II.}  THE SECOND BEAST = Chapter 13:11-15This second  "beast" does not come from the sea.  He comes from the earth.  Instead of looking like a wild animal, the beast or evil man looks like a lamb but sounds   like the dragon.  He is referred to in Revelation 16 as the False Prophet.  His job is to promote worship.  He will be a "spirituality" promoter - a man of "religion".  But it will be devil-worship.  He will convince people to erect an image of the first beast.  He is "granted power" - as he has none of his own - to make the image "speak".  He is obviously not the dragon nor the first beast.

[III.]  THE UNHOLY THREE ARE DISTINCT FROM ONE ANOTHER = Chapter 16:13 - "And I saw, coming out of the mouth of the dragon and out of the mouth of the beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet, three unclean spirits like frogs."

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3 hours ago, Progressive Truth said:

So with that bid of info along with the 5th trumpet one can conclude the second beast is Satan. 

Anytime someone claims either of the two beasts of Revelation 13 are actually Satan rather than just empowered by him they fail to factor in that the two beasts are in the Lake of Fire while Satan is bound in chains and sealed in the abyss for a thousand years.

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20 hours ago, Michael37 said:

Anytime someone claims either of the two beasts of Revelation 13 are actually Satan rather than just empowered by him they fail to factor in that the two beasts are in the Lake of Fire while Satan is bound in chains and sealed in the abyss for a thousand years.

 

Michael, your statement would have more credibility if you were to give a text in support. However, I am familiar with the texts of which you are referring, others may not. I assume  you are referring to (Rev. 19:19-21, or 20:1-10).  It is always better to know the beginning and ending point of each prophecy to get a broader perspective of a few texts within it. This prophecy actually begins in (Rev. 19:11, and ends at 20:10) All events are given in their chronological order by God, the author of all prophecy. I would encourage you to read it through start to finish a couple of times. If you will do this the following will make more sense of this prophecy.

I hope we can agree (Rev.19:11-21) are dealing the the return of Christ. Now we will pay attention to vs. 20. It states; "But the beast[beast out of the sea] and with it the false prophet [beast out of the earth] who had performed the signs on its behalf. [first beast] with these signs he [false prophet] had deluded those who had received the mark...The two of them [beast from the sea, and false prophet] were thrown into the fiery lake of burning sulfur. [ ]  commentary added

In Rev. 19:20 the false prophet is introduced within this prophecy. Where did he come from? The origin of the two beast of Rev. 13 are given, 1st out of the sea, 2nd out of the earth, nothing on the false prophet. I'm going to suggest to you that God the author of prophecy uses a method know as expansion and enlargement when certain events or symbols within different prophecies are repeated in others. By employing this method God is giving us more details about that event or symbol. In the case of the second beast of Rev. 13, coming out of the earth, having two horns like a lamb, speaking like a dragon. in Rev. 19, this same beast is referred to as a False prophet. Why, because during the tribulation God will have 144,000servant/prophets proclaiming the gospel world wide. And the 2nd beast who speaks like a dragon will contradict the testimony of God's prophets with outrageous blasphemy and awesome miracles. 

Consider again these descriptives (Rev. 13:11-14) "It exercised all the authority of the first beast...and made the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast...And it performed great signs even causing fire down from heaven...Because of the signs it was given power to perform [by God] on behalf of the first beast it deceived the inhabitants of earth. 

Now compare the red texts in both the second paragraph above and the one just above. They confirm that the 2nd beast of Rev. 13, is the False prophet of Rev. 19, and doing so gives more detail on the activities of the second beast as the tribulation moves on in time. 

The prophecy continues (Rev. 20:1-10) and states:" And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven, having the key to the Abyss [spirit realm] and holding...a great chain. He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him a thousand years...to keep him from deceiving the nations until the thousand years were ended. After that he must be set free for a short while....When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released... and deceive the nations [the resurrected wicked]... to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore...and surrounded the camp of God's people [New Jerusalem] but fire came down from heaven and devoured them. And the devil... was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and false prophet had been thrown. They [Satan and wicked] will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.[until restitution has been paid and they shall turn to ashes and the fire will go out, and God will create a new earth, which the saints shall inherit.]

 Michael this prophecy informs us that the two beast of Rev. 13, (1st beast, the second beast which goes by two other names, false prophet and the devil, are one in the same) are throw into a lake of fire at the return of Christ, and at the end of the thousand years the second beast/false prophet/devil is released for a short season and thrown again into the lake of fire for the last time. 

 

 

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