A Four Horsemen Perspective

[Michael37]

4 hours ago, TCC said:

But I believe the reason God lays it out in Revelation helps us see the flow so as, not to confuse.

Yes, poor old John had a lot going on "in the Spirit", and we shouldn't mess with the way he wrote it down.

[Spiros]

1. The white horse represents Sagittarius. Wiki: "Its name is Latin for "archer". Sagittarius is commonly represented as a centaur drawing a bow...The center of the Milky Way lies in the westernmost part of Sagittarius".

Milky Way, milk, white, white horse

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And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

2. The red horse represents Scorpio. Wiki: "Scorpius contains many bright stars, including Antares (α Sco), "rival of Mars," so named because of its distinct reddish hue".

Antares, red star, red horse

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And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.

 

3. The black horse represents Libra. Wiki: "Its name is Latin for weighing scales...It is fairly faint, with no first magnitude stars"

fairly faint/no first magnitude stars, black, black horse

 

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And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand. And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

 

4. The yellow horse represents Virgo. Wiki: "name is Latin for maiden"

Why is this horse yellow? It might be because this woman is clothed with the sun in Revelation 12:

 

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And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

sun, yellow, yellow horse

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And I looked, and behold a yellow horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hades followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

The reference to death, Hades that follows, and the beast of the earth seems to refer to the next constellation:

 

Leo(lion)

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And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?

 

"Horse" in Hellenic is hippos(ίππος). The isopsephy value of the name for "horse" is equal to 440 or the width of the Great Pyramid in royal cubits.

 

ΙΠΠΟΣ = 10+80+80+70+200 = 440

Edited September 15, 2024 by Spiros

[TCC]

10 hours ago, Spiros said:

1. The white horse represents Sagittarius. Wiki: "Its name is Latin for "archer". Sagittarius is commonly represented as a centaur drawing a bow...The center of the Milky Way lies in the westernmost part of Sagittarius".

Milky Way, milk, white, white horse

2. The red horse represents Scorpio. Wiki: "Scorpius contains many bright stars, including Antares (α Sco), "rival of Mars," so named because of its distinct reddish hue".

Antares, red star, red horse

 

3. The black horse represents Libra. Wiki: "Its name is Latin for weighing scales...It is fairly faint, with no first magnitude stars"

fairly faint/no first magnitude stars, black, black horse

 

 

4. The yellow horse represents Virgo. Wiki: "name is Latin for maiden"

Why is this horse yellow? It might be because this woman is clothed with the sun in Revelation 12:

 

sun, yellow, yellow horse

The reference to death, Hades that follows, and the beast of the earth seems to refer to the next constellation:

 

Leo(lion)

 

"Horse" in Hellenic is hippos(ίππος). The isopsephy value of the name for "horse" is equal to 440 or the width of the Great Pyramid in royal cubits.

 

ΙΠΠΟΣ = 10+80+80+70+200 = 440

Interesting observations. Is there a summary of what all that means? lol. It does not sound like you would view Revelation through the escatological futurist grid. Correct? 

[Michael37]

3 hours ago, TCC said:

Interesting observations. Is there a summary of what all that means? lol. It does not sound like you would view Revelation through the eschatological futurist grid. Correct? 

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[Spiros]

On 9/15/2024 at 12:11 PM, TCC said:

Interesting observations. Is there a summary of what all that means? lol. It does not sound like you would view Revelation through the escatological futurist grid. Correct? 

Astronomical concepts show up in the Bible but of course, they have nothing to do with Astrological interpretations. My understanding is that this does lead to eschatology since events mentioned in Revelation seem to have occurred in the 20th and 21st century AD. Using Hellenic isopsephy we see that the phrase for constellation of Virgo as "ΑΣΤΕΡΙΣΜΟΣ ΠΑΡΘΕΝΟΥ(asterismos Parthenou)" is equal to that of the word Antichrist as ΑΝΤΙΧΡΙΣΤΟΣ(Antichristos).

 

ΑΣΤΕΡΙΣΜΟΣ ΠΑΡΘΕΝΟΥ = ΑΝΤΙΧΡΙΣΤΟΣ = 1841

Some believe that Jesus was born when the Sun was at the constellation of Virgo. It is thus logical to assume that the Antichrist might want to mimic Christ, to also be born when the Sun is at the constellation of Virgo.

Then there is the word chloros which some Bibles translate into pale. It could either be yellow or green. Looking into the pythmenic - Pythagorean number of words I noticed that it is possible to define 9 ancient Greek names for colors. Each one has a final number value between 1 and 9, and they have different values. This means that the numbers 1,2,3,...,8,9 all define a different color. With this in mind, the number for chloros is the same as that for prasinon(green). Prasinon(ΠΡΑΣΙΝΟΝ) is derived from prasson(leek). This number is 3.

 

ΧΛΩΡΟΝ = 1650 => 1+6+5+0 = 12 => 1+2 = 3
ΠΡΑΣΙΝΟΝ = 651 => 6+5+1 = 12 => 1+2 = 3

 

If this is true then the 4 colors of the horses define the colors of the Palestenian flag, white, red, black, and green.

The 9 ancient Greek colors are thus gray, purple, green, silver, red, blue, gold, white, and black.

The color fiery (ΠΥΡΡΟΝ, pyrron) which shows up in Revelation as the color of one horse is missing. But there is something interesting about this color, the Pythagorean pythmenic (bottom) value of the word is equal to that of white! White is thus fiery! The Milky Way thus consists of stars that are fiery, even though the color we see is not red but white or in some cases even blue. 

Edited September 17, 2024 by Spiros

[DavidReese]

On 9/14/2024 at 2:41 PM, TCC said:

Keeping in mind this is God's word and His creation. Our sense of what happens when grass disappears (lets say for the most part...can the grass return in part? or might there be places it remains yet considered as whole?). Just saying. 

The 3 woes:

1. Trumpet 5

2. Trumpet 6 

3 The bowls

Seems to refer to the last sequence of 9 judgements though right? 

I agree grass would be last to die off and like you said first to grow back if that fits? I read a post of someone that said the first will be last and the last will be first but the Sabbath is last  day and the woe's are the same. He put the woe's as  6, the 5 then 4 trumpet, I kinda see some of the sixes beginning to develop now, May by the end all things are happening together ? That would be bad.

[TCC]

On 9/17/2024 at 7:21 AM, Spiros said:

Astronomical concepts show up in the Bible but of course, they have nothing to do with Astrological interpretations. My understanding is that this does lead to eschatology since events mentioned in Revelation seem to have occurred in the 20th and 21st century AD. Using Hellenic isopsephy we see that the phrase for constellation of Virgo as "ΑΣΤΕΡΙΣΜΟΣ ΠΑΡΘΕΝΟΥ(asterismos Parthenou)" is equal to that of the word Antichrist as ΑΝΤΙΧΡΙΣΤΟΣ(Antichristos).

 

ΑΣΤΕΡΙΣΜΟΣ ΠΑΡΘΕΝΟΥ = ΑΝΤΙΧΡΙΣΤΟΣ = 1841

Some believe that Jesus was born when the Sun was at the constellation of Virgo. It is thus logical to assume that the Antichrist might want to mimic Christ, to also be born when the Sun is at the constellation of Virgo.

Then there is the word chloros which some Bibles translate into pale. It could either be yellow or green. Looking into the pythmenic - Pythagorean number of words I noticed that it is possible to define 9 ancient Greek names for colors. Each one has a final number value between 1 and 9, and they have different values. This means that the numbers 1,2,3,...,8,9 all define a different color. With this in mind, the number for chloros is the same as that for prasinon(green). Prasinon(ΠΡΑΣΙΝΟΝ) is derived from prasson(leek). This number is 3.

 

ΧΛΩΡΟΝ = 1650 => 1+6+5+0 = 12 => 1+2 = 3
ΠΡΑΣΙΝΟΝ = 651 => 6+5+1 = 12 => 1+2 = 3

 

If this is true then the 4 colors of the horses define the colors of the Palestenian flag, white, red, black, and green.

The 9 ancient Greek colors are thus gray, purple, green, silver, red, blue, gold, white, and black.

The color fiery (ΠΥΡΡΟΝ, pyrron) which shows up in Revelation as the color of one horse is missing. But there is something interesting about this color, the Pythagorean pythmenic (bottom) value of the word is equal to that of white! White is thus fiery! The Milky Way thus consists of stars that are fiery, even though the color we see is not red but white or in some cases even blue. 

Interesting take Spiros. Michael Heiser did a video once of Jesus birth I believe in 3 BC using the Virgo constellation to demonstrated (similar to 9-23-17). I understand the tendency today to compare something of Christ with antichrist. I would tend to see, in the first seal, for example, a mirror of Christ rather than an opposite. In the sense of fiery, I believe it will be. So on that note we would likely see a similar potential. Blessings. 

[TCC]

22 hours ago, DavidReese said:

I agree grass would be last to die off and like you said first to grow back if that fits? I read a post of someone that said the first will be last and the last will be first but the Sabbath is last  day and the woe's are the same. He put the woe's as  6, the 5 then 4 trumpet, I kinda see some of the sixes beginning to develop now, May by the end all things are happening together ? That would be bad.

I am always open to genuine levels of creativity when it comes to our sincere observations to understand our dear Lord and Savior. Amen. However, the sense I get is with the first last and last first have to do with righteousness in for people under the provisional umbrella of Christ. So it would seem the context would be related to people and a rightness of our standing before Christ. More than I would imagine it would relate to timing of things laid out in sequential order.

I don't believe we have seen any of the seals yet. I know some see concur events with judgement cycles. But I would understand Revelation being pretty clear that the trumpets come out of the 7th and last seal, and the bowls come out of the 7th and last trumpet, thus establishing chronology. As for the woes, are they not Trumpets 5, 6, and 7 though brother? Blessings. 

[Revelation Man]

On 9/9/2024 at 1:55 PM, TCC said:

My view of the four horsemen I have not seen in any theological book. So admittedly it might not be too stable. But over the course of the past 8 years it has only become more likely, it would seem. If correct, it would seem to be something forming right now under our feet.

Some features:
* Seal 1 and 2 seem to be related -- by use of "and another (went out)." This is the only time of the four this phrase is used. Whereas it could have been for the 3rd and 4th but is not mentioned.

So, what do "Seals" do? They seal up messages via a signet seal ring. If a king had a message he needed to make sure it did not get read so he would place three wax signet seals on it, if the message was received with broken seals the messenger would die. That's why three were used, not one, mistakes happen.

In that case, why would people see the Seals as Judgments? They are not, they are Jesus in heaven, amidst the Church in Rev. 4:4 and 5:9-10 (you are Pre Trib so you should get this) foretelling what God's Wrath will bring as soon as he opens the 7th Seal that has God's Wrath bound up. (I can prove this via Rev. 7 also). Ever wonder why the 7th Seal is over in Rev. 8? Because it brings God's Wrath, 7 = Divine Completion, all 7 Trumps are God's Divine Wrath in full. The 7th Trump brings the 3rd Woe, like you understood (I read through the thread) and those 7 Bowls/Vials are the 3rd Woe. 

Jesus opens Seals 1-5, and then foretells of the 42 month rule of the Anti-Christ/Beast, he 1.) Conquers for 42 months via the White Horse of conquering 2.) Then he Brings wars for 42 months via the Red Horse 3.) The A.C. rule brings 42 months of Famine via the Black Horse 4.) Then his rule brings 42 months of Sickness, Death and the Grave (Hades). Finally, this tyrant Little Horn/Beast will come against the Christian Remnant Church of Gentiles on earth and against the 2/3 of Jewish "Saints" (a generic term for Jews by Old Test. prophets and John) but he can not get at the 1/3 Jews who repent and flee into the Petra/Bozrah area.

Then Jesus opens the 6th Seal and he foretells of God's soon to came Wrath, which starts in Rev. 8 with an Asteroid breaking apart and setting trees (Trump #1) afire then via an asteroid making impact (Trump #2) then via the FALLOUT which poisons the fresh rivers (Trump #3) and lastly we see the whole world become dim via all the smoke that gets up in the jet-stream and darkens the world by 1/3. See how Seal #6 is only foretelling the Fourth Trump? The Sun will turn Dark and the Moon blood red because of all the fires the hue of the moon looks red. The Seals do nothing, its just Jesus in Heaven, saying COME AND SEE (a vision of what is to soon come)  whereas via the Trumps and Vials an d Angel blows a trump or pours out a vial. 

The 7th Seal being over in Rev. 8 brings God's Wrath, that is why there is Silence in Heaven for 30 minutes, Judgment is at hand. It repented God when He flooded the whole earth, when we go to a funeral, its quite because of reverence. They angels and the heavens take no joy in what must be done, billions of humans will die, the silence is meant to show sadness and reverence, but a just God must judge the wicked. By the way, both things I mention now makes Rev. 10 (the Mystery Chapter to a lot of people) make much more sense. The 7 Thunders are merely the 7 Trumps, when Thunder #7 blows time will be no more [as it has been under Satan, Jesus will rule]. Also, now we know why the little book was both Bitter & Sweet, John loved the Judgment as it brings us into an everlasting eternal life with God/Jesus but he also understood that billions of humans must die, so it was sweet to the mouth but bitter to the stomach.

Now Rev. 7 should make more sense. What is it? Why is it where it is at? Well, if God's Wrath falls in Rev. 8 (it does) then that is the 1260 middle of the week. What comes before that? Elijah and IMHO, Moses shows up before the DOTL to turn Israel back unto God (Malachi 4:5-6). We also see this in Zech. 13:8-9, where 1/3 of the Jews repent, then in the very next verse (Zech. 14:1) the DOTL arrives, then in vs. 2 Jerusalem is sacked, then in vs. 3 (1260 days later) Jesus lands on the Mt of Olives. So, Rev. 7 is the Jews fleeing Judea, just after the get saved/repent, it 5 million  Jews however, not 144,000 which is a CODE, just like the 10 Virgin Brides is a CODE we understand, 10 = Completion, they are not all virgins and are not all females, of course, the church however is called the 10 Virgin Brides. The 144,000 has two numbers, 12 = Fulness and the number 10 = Completeness so 12 x 12 x 10 x 10 x 10 = ALL Israel who repents, and they to are not all virgins nor all males. 

Now knowing all that above reread Rev. 7, see where it says HOLD UP the Four Winds(wrath of God) until we have SEALED (with the holy spirit like us Christians are) the "144,000" in their heads (with the Fathers name I might add, the Jews are His bride, Jacob had two brides, Rachel the preferred and Leah the forced bride) and then it says HURT NOT, the Earth, Sea, nor Trees until they have been Sealed. Well, what hurts the Earth, Sea and Trees? Revelation chapter 8 shows us this, the Trumpets (Asteroid Impact) sets fire to 1/3 of the trees (which I think is a DESIGNATION, the New World is where the Asteroid hits, God will Judge the Old World differently, Jesus has to rule from the Old World for 1000 years), the Asteroid will hit just of the California and Mexico Coastlines (Apophis will hit on April 13, 2029 imho) so the Sea gets hurt and of course the Earth gets hurt. 

By the way, the Book of Revelation is not in Chronological Order. We see Jesus' Eternal Majesty in Rev. 1, the Church Age in Rev. 2 and 3. Then we see the Rapture in Rev. 4:1 (Last Trump) the Church in Heaven BEFORE the Seals are opened in Rev. 4 and 5, then we see Jesus opening the Seals in Rev. 6, and we then get a flash down  to Heaven we the Jews Flee into Judea in Rev. 7 and a FLAH UP to the Church in Heaven in Rev. 7:9-16. Then the Wrath of God is shown in Rev. 8 , 9 and 16(15&16 is really just one chapter) , Rev. 11 is a Parenthetical Citation Chapter, we see Woe #2 spoken about BUT it actually happens in Rev. 9, we se Woe #3 is said to come quickly in Rev. 11, and the 7th Trump blows but we see the actual 3rd Woe in Rev. 16 via the 7 Vials being poured out. 

Rev. 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 17, 18 and 19 all happen at the same time as Rev. chapters 8, 9 and 15&16. As a matter of fact, Rev. 10 covers the 7 Trumps, Rev. 12, 13 and 17 and 18 both cover the full 1260 days, the Rev.12 Dragon  chases the Woman "1260 days" after h cast down from Heaven right? The Rev. 13 Beast rules 1260 days also. Rev. 17 is All False Religion (Harlot) being Judged over the Beasts 1260 day rule. Rev. 18 is Babylon (Whole World) being Judged over a 1260 day period of time.

Rev. 11 is a tad different, its the Two-witnesses (1335 Blessing) showing up 1335 days before the 2nd coming ENDS ALL THESE WONDERS and turning Israel back unto God (1/3 or 5 million Jews not 144,000). They show up BEFORE the Beast at the 1260 (which is 70 days later) thus they also must die before the Beast dies because both have a Divine Ordination of 1260 days. Rev 11 is merely about the 2 witnesses 1260 day ministry on earth, which starts just before day 1260 and thus ends 75 days before the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ.

Rev. 14 and 19 covers the Full Seven Years, in that Rev. 14 is the Harvest Chapter. It shows the End Time Harvest of the Wheat (Jews) and the Wicked Grapes but in verse 14 in a FLASHBACK Jesus from upon a cloud Raptures the Church Pre Trib. Then in Rev. 19 we see that Jesus the Lamb marries the Church, and thus that has to happen before Rev. 4:4 because we are seen sitting at God's Throne with our White Robes on already. 

God Bless, and welcome to Worthy mu brother in Christ !!

[TCC]

48 minutes ago, Revelation Man said:

So, what do "Seals" do? They seal up messages via a signet seal ring. If a king had a message he needed to make sure it did not get read so he would place three wax signet seals on it, if the message was received with broken seals the messenger would die. That's why three were used, not one, mistakes happen.

In that case, why would people see the Seals as Judgments? They are not, they are Jesus in heaven, amidst the Church in Rev. 4:4 and 5:9-10 (you are Pre Trib so you should get this) foretelling what God's Wrath will bring as soon as he opens the 7th Seal that has God's Wrath bound up. (I can prove this via Rev. 7 also). Ever wonder why the 7th Seal is over in Rev. 8? Because it brings God's Wrath, 7 = Divine Completion, all 7 Trumps are God's Divine Wrath in full. The 7th Trump brings the 3rd Woe, like you understood (I read through the thread) and those 7 Bowls/Vials are the 3rd Woe. 

Jesus opens Seals 1-5, and then foretells of the 42 month rule of the Anti-Christ/Beast, he 1.) Conquers for 42 months via the White Horse of conquering 2.) Then he Brings wars for 42 months via the Red Horse 3.) The A.C. rule brings 42 months of Famine via the Black Horse 4.) Then his rule brings 42 months of Sickness, Death and the Grave (Hades). Finally, this tyrant Little Horn/Beast will come against the Christian Remnant Church of Gentiles on earth and against the 2/3 of Jewish "Saints" (a generic term for Jews by Old Test. prophets and John) but he can not get at the 1/3 Jews who repent and flee into the Petra/Bozrah area.

Then Jesus opens the 6th Seal and he foretells of God's soon to came Wrath, which starts in Rev. 8 with an Asteroid breaking apart and setting trees (Trump #1) afire then via an asteroid making impact (Trump #2) then via the FALLOUT which poisons the fresh rivers (Trump #3) and lastly we see the whole world become dim via all the smoke that gets up in the jet-stream and darkens the world by 1/3. See how Seal #6 is only foretelling the Fourth Trump? The Sun will turn Dark and the Moon blood red because of all the fires the hue of the moon looks red. The Seals do nothing, its just Jesus in Heaven, saying COME AND SEE (a vision of what is to soon come)  whereas via the Trumps and Vials an d Angel blows a trump or pours out a vial. 

The 7th Seal being over in Rev. 8 brings God's Wrath, that is why there is Silence in Heaven for 30 minutes, Judgment is at hand. It repented God when He flooded the whole earth, when we go to a funeral, its quite because of reverence. They angels and the heavens take no joy in what must be done, billions of humans will die, the silence is meant to show sadness and reverence, but a just God must judge the wicked. By the way, both things I mention now makes Rev. 10 (the Mystery Chapter to a lot of people) make much more sense. The 7 Thunders are merely the 7 Trumps, when Thunder #7 blows time will be no more [as it has been under Satan, Jesus will rule]. Also, now we know why the little book was both Bitter & Sweet, John loved the Judgment as it brings us into an everlasting eternal life with God/Jesus but he also understood that billions of humans must die, so it was sweet to the mouth but bitter to the stomach.

Now Rev. 7 should make more sense. What is it? Why is it where it is at? Well, if God's Wrath falls in Rev. 8 (it does) then that is the 1260 middle of the week. What comes before that? Elijah and IMHO, Moses shows up before the DOTL to turn Israel back unto God (Malachi 4:5-6). We also see this in Zech. 13:8-9, where 1/3 of the Jews repent, then in the very next verse (Zech. 14:1) the DOTL arrives, then in vs. 2 Jerusalem is sacked, then in vs. 3 (1260 days later) Jesus lands on the Mt of Olives. So, Rev. 7 is the Jews fleeing Judea, just after the get saved/repent, it 5 million  Jews however, not 144,000 which is a CODE, just like the 10 Virgin Brides is a CODE we understand, 10 = Completion, they are not all virgins and are not all females, of course, the church however is called the 10 Virgin Brides. The 144,000 has two numbers, 12 = Fulness and the number 10 = Completeness so 12 x 12 x 10 x 10 x 10 = ALL Israel who repents, and they to are not all virgins nor all males. 

Now knowing all that above reread Rev. 7, see where it says HOLD UP the Four Winds(wrath of God) until we have SEALED (with the holy spirit like us Christians are) the "144,000" in their heads (with the Fathers name I might add, the Jews are His bride, Jacob had two brides, Rachel the preferred and Leah the forced bride) and then it says HURT NOT, the Earth, Sea, nor Trees until they have been Sealed. Well, what hurts the Earth, Sea and Trees? Revelation chapter 8 shows us this, the Trumpets (Asteroid Impact) sets fire to 1/3 of the trees (which I think is a DESIGNATION, the New World is where the Asteroid hits, God will Judge the Old World differently, Jesus has to rule from the Old World for 1000 years), the Asteroid will hit just of the California and Mexico Coastlines (Apophis will hit on April 13, 2029 imho) so the Sea gets hurt and of course the Earth gets hurt. 

By the way, the Book of Revelation is not in Chronological Order. We see Jesus' Eternal Majesty in Rev. 1, the Church Age in Rev. 2 and 3. Then we see the Rapture in Rev. 4:1 (Last Trump) the Church in Heaven BEFORE the Seals are opened in Rev. 4 and 5, then we see Jesus opening the Seals in Rev. 6, and we then get a flash down  to Heaven we the Jews Flee into Judea in Rev. 7 and a FLAH UP to the Church in Heaven in Rev. 7:9-16. Then the Wrath of God is shown in Rev. 8 , 9 and 16(15&16 is really just one chapter) , Rev. 11 is a Parenthetical Citation Chapter, we see Woe #2 spoken about BUT it actually happens in Rev. 9, we se Woe #3 is said to come quickly in Rev. 11, and the 7th Trump blows but we see the actual 3rd Woe in Rev. 16 via the 7 Vials being poured out. 

Rev. 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 17, 18 and 19 all happen at the same time as Rev. chapters 8, 9 and 15&16. As a matter of fact, Rev. 10 covers the 7 Trumps, Rev. 12, 13 and 17 and 18 both cover the full 1260 days, the Rev.12 Dragon  chases the Woman "1260 days" after h cast down from Heaven right? The Rev. 13 Beast rules 1260 days also. Rev. 17 is All False Religion (Harlot) being Judged over the Beasts 1260 day rule. Rev. 18 is Babylon (Whole World) being Judged over a 1260 day period of time.

Rev. 11 is a tad different, its the Two-witnesses (1335 Blessing) showing up 1335 days before the 2nd coming ENDS ALL THESE WONDERS and turning Israel back unto God (1/3 or 5 million Jews not 144,000). They show up BEFORE the Beast at the 1260 (which is 70 days later) thus they also must die before the Beast dies because both have a Divine Ordination of 1260 days. Rev 11 is merely about the 2 witnesses 1260 day ministry on earth, which starts just before day 1260 and thus ends 75 days before the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ.

Rev. 14 and 19 covers the Full Seven Years, in that Rev. 14 is the Harvest Chapter. It shows the End Time Harvest of the Wheat (Jews) and the Wicked Grapes but in verse 14 in a FLASHBACK Jesus from upon a cloud Raptures the Church Pre Trib. Then in Rev. 19 we see that Jesus the Lamb marries the Church, and thus that has to happen before Rev. 4:4 because we are seen sitting at God's Throne with our White Robes on already. 

God Bless, and welcome to Worthy mu brother in Christ !!

Hi brother. Thanks and that is quite a bit to digest. Some highlights that stood out to me I like: the seals unveil the scroll. The symbolic number 144k. And your take on the silence in heaven. These are most profound in my estimation. 

There will no doubt be differing views among believers as to varying elements of Revelation. And I commend you for your detailed observations. One thing that is not so clear to me in how you laid it out is the 42 per each seal. Adding all those up would surpass a decade. But likely you have certain categories those years fit in? Like simultanously? 

It makes a lot of sense that the church be with God at the opening of the scroll. I admit that. It also does look like Rev 4 as a mirror of rapture. Plus I do realize my view on the first and second seal are in absolutely no theological circle. I'm pretty much alone in that view. Fortunately, I am a fairly easy out here though. Because if my take is off, it is ground level Easter Egg Hunt easy to disprove. In the short term even. So I am excited to see just what i've gotten all myself into...lol. 

If Trump gets elected, averts ww3, and Saudi Arabia  normalizes with Israel, then i'd say the potential for my view would remain an open ticket item (providing of course the church has not already raptured by this time). But if within the next 12 months we don't see the above taking place and moving in that direction...I would see your observations as very worthy considerables brother. Thanks for the hearty, detailed, and filled with care welcome. Blessings.